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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #40 on: 05/19/2015 02:13 PM »
The CEO is a rich pastor, it should have helped with both without resorting to kickstart.

Investment doesn't work that way.

Oh? The rich guy brings in the cash in return for board seat, title and nice big share of the company pie. Not so rich rocket scientists bring in the know-how and make the rocket happen. Thought this is how it happens.

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Best way for an aerospace startup to self-promote would be to actually launch something.
Chicken and egg much?

It is if there's no history, current status is a website full of wishful thinking, plans to launch a battlestar next year and has no oil magnate on the board.

These guys already hatched an egg called the Stig in their previous hen house which is suitable for their intended initial business of suborbital micro-g experiment flights. If they already have Armadillo tooling and IP then hatch the Stig again, fix the landing and start selling service.
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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #41 on: 05/19/2015 03:51 PM »
I don't understand this kickstarter. Such things work great for consumer products (which have a tangible reward) or for high-minded concepts (i.e. Lunar Mission One), but this is neither. It's the kind of company that could make money from NASA suborbital contracts, but needs seed capital in order to bid for them. That's what venture capital is for. If their major investor doesn't understand this, they're doomed.

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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #42 on: 05/19/2015 04:28 PM »
The CEO is a rich pastor, it should have helped with both without resorting to kickstart.

Investment doesn't work that way.

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Best way for an aerospace startup to self-promote would be to actually launch something.

Chicken and egg much? No, the problem here is simply that Russ doesn't appear to understand how Kickstarter works.

sadly, space kickstarters have a very large hill to climb.

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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #43 on: 05/19/2015 07:27 PM »
sadly, space kickstarters have a very large hill to climb.

How many space related kickstarters have actually succeeded? The two nutters trying to send mockup TARDIS into orbit using Interorbital as a launch provider and Arkyd comes to mind.
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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #44 on: 05/19/2015 09:36 PM »

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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #45 on: 05/19/2015 09:55 PM »
Oh? The rich guy brings in the cash in return for board seat, title and nice big share of the company pie. Not so rich rocket scientists bring in the know-how and make the rocket happen. Thought this is how it happens.

Sane people who own a company are reluctant to give up shares as it takes away their control. If you have an investor CEO it means you've already lost, and typically means he got it for cheap.

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It is if there's no history, current status is a website full of wishful thinking, plans to launch a battlestar next year and has no oil magnate on the board.

These guys already hatched an egg called the Stig in their previous hen house which is suitable for their intended initial business of suborbital micro-g experiment flights. If they already have Armadillo tooling and IP then hatch the Stig again, fix the landing and start selling service.

They don't. I thought that was clear.
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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #46 on: 05/19/2015 11:34 PM »
What's clear? The SpaceNews article says they claim to have acquired Armadillo's "mission critical assets," whatever that means exactly, and jongoff said upthread he heard that one of the Exos team had acquired Armadillo's IP rights.

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Although they first announced Exos Aerospace’s formation nearly a year ago, the new company did not formally acquire Armadillo’s “mission critical” assets until early this year, according to the company’s payload users guide.
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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #47 on: 05/19/2015 11:36 PM »
You said tooling. Most of it was sold off.
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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #48 on: 05/20/2015 06:13 AM »
Lunar Mission One succeeded.

Right, because they had very inspirational, innovative idea. EXOS is just trying to do what UP Aerospace is already doing.

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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #49 on: 05/20/2015 07:11 AM »
EXOS is just trying to do what UP Aerospace is already doing.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was of the impression that UP wasn't reusable. (i.e., your average Estes rocket is more reusable)

To answer my own question: https://flightopportunities.nasa.gov/platforms/suborbital/spaceloft-xl/ It's about as reusable as an Estes rocket, if everything goes right. (I think that's happened once.)
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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #50 on: 05/21/2015 04:24 AM »
sadly, space kickstarters have a very large hill to climb.

How many space related kickstarters have actually succeeded? The two nutters trying to send mockup TARDIS into orbit using Interorbital as a launch provider and Arkyd comes to mind.

At least two Cubesats - ArduSAT and KickSat IIRC.

Also, it was through a different crowdfunding platform (rockethub???) but there was that thing to re-contact ISEE-3 too.

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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #51 on: 10/29/2015 10:31 PM »
Late to the party. I watched for years as AA went through one crash after another.

Q-G's comment about no tooling explains why the new vehicle will have a slightly different size and lighter tanks. If you are starting over with the tooling, then you can apply the lessons learned from the STIGs.

I remember the GPS glitch. That would have been much of an issue if the chute would have recovered the rocket instead of the STIG-B making a crater.

Memory says that STIG-A with a similar chute came close to hitting the truck at the launch pad because the chute could maneuver that well.

Wonder if they'll pursue the 'Glass Ball' idea of up on a cluster of STIG's but parachute the victim...uh...customer and Ball back (hopefully) safe and sound.

Hope the do the same blogging as AA did.

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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #53 on: 06/02/2016 08:26 PM »
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John Quinn, Exos Aerospace: building two SARGE sounding rockets, targeted for launch in November. #NSRC2016

Quinn: planning six launches in 2017, plus additional “flight on demand” depending on interest. Flying from Spaceport America.

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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #54 on: 07/18/2016 12:26 AM »
http://exosaero.com/2016/06/13/222/
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Just in case you hadn’t heard the good news – our rocket tube sections are officially onsite!

We are ecstatic. We thought we would share a few quick snaps of them, so you could join in on the excitement. These tubes are sufficient for building two rockets, when they’re coupled with tanks, etc.
It may not be much, but it's nice to see real hardware all the same.

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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #55 on: 09/30/2016 01:44 AM »
How has this not been posted yet ? Booking payloads now ..

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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #56 on: 10/18/2016 04:09 AM »
Looks like EXOS has been making progress. Their website has a few new updates listed in their blog: http://exosaero.com/blog/

They also have a new engine that they recently hotfired:



From the pictures in their blog (attached), it looks like the nozzle is 3D printed.
I tried it at home

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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #57 on: 01/07/2017 06:14 AM »
https://twitter.com/exosaerosystech/status/816713321588133888

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EXOS is excited to announce the completion of our final engine test prior to integration into new “SARGE” platform: http://buff.ly/2iqIztw
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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #58 on: 03/13/2017 03:58 PM »
Feature video on Fox 4 ( Flash video, sorry )

http://www.fox4news.com/news/238279410-story

Not much new, but "first payload funded by NASA, it will will fly in June from Spaceport America in White Sands"
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Re: EXOS aerospace
« Reply #59 on: 03/15/2017 03:29 PM »
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Tanks Have Arrived!

Our tanks are in the EXOS shop!

You may have heard that a tornado hit the Michoud facility. (We are so grateful that only minor injuries were reported, but you can read the rest of the update, here).

Our tanks are manufactured in the Michoud facility. The tornado delayed the tank completion and their delivery, but we are now moving on to the final assembly and final test!

We will need to recapture some time to make our projected April launch date, but we are still pressing on to see how close we can get to our projected date.

Of course, our safety process and risk mitigation activities will not be compromised to make the April date, but we are pushing within those limits!

http://exosaero.com/2017/03/13/tanks-have-arrived/

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