Author Topic: 1st Soyuz-2.1v/Volga launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC  (Read 84330 times)

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Re: First Soyuz-2-1V launch - December 23, 2013
« Reply #20 on: 12/18/2013 04:46 PM »
Some informations received today :

Soyuz-2-1V tests on launch pad were successfully performed today. They will
be continued tomorrow. There will be test fuelling of Soyuz-2-1V tanks by
liquid oxygen on Saturday. The launch is planned at 12:30 UTC on December
23rd.
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Re: First Soyuz-2-1V launch - December 23, 2013
« Reply #21 on: 12/18/2013 06:02 PM »
Too bad we're not likely to get pictures after the scandal with the French dude taking pics of the mobile lift during the fit checks a year ago.

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Re: First Soyuz-2-1V launch - December 23, 2013
« Reply #22 on: 12/18/2013 06:12 PM »
Too bad we're not likely to get pictures after the scandal with the French dude taking pics of the mobile lift during the fit checks a year ago.

Yes, very bad......This should be a moment of "pride" for Russian Space.

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Re: First Soyuz-2-1V launch - December 23, 2013
« Reply #23 on: 12/18/2013 08:19 PM »
Too bad we're not likely to get pictures after the scandal with the French dude taking pics of the mobile lift during the fit checks a year ago.
yeah I received an email reply from an email I sent on Monday to samspace.ru saying only approved media can request pictures and video only after a successful launch has occurred.

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Re: First Soyuz-2-1V launch - December 23, 2013
« Reply #24 on: 12/19/2013 05:26 AM »
May this be Notam for this launch?

V8170/13 - FLW DANGER AREAS ACT: ULD1, ULD2. SFC - UNL, DAILY 1200-1300, 23 DEC 12:00 2013 UNTIL 27 DEC 13:00 2013. CREATED: 19 DEC 05:26 2013

DANGER AREAS ULD1
701300N 0450000E 700000N 0474000E 690000N 0442000E 701300N 0450000E
684000N 0462000E

ULD2
732000N 0500000E 725000N 0520000E 714000N 0470000E 732000N 0500000E
711000N 0492000E UNL GND



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Re: First Soyuz-2-1V launch - December 23, 2013
« Reply #25 on: 12/19/2013 04:40 PM »
May this be Notam for this launch?

V8170/13 - FLW DANGER AREAS ACT: ULD1, ULD2. SFC - UNL, DAILY 1200-1300, 23 DEC 12:00 2013 UNTIL 27 DEC 13:00 2013. CREATED: 19 DEC 05:26 2013

DANGER AREAS ULD1
701300N 0450000E 700000N 0474000E 690000N 0442000E 701300N 0450000E
684000N 0462000E

ULD2
732000N 0500000E 725000N 0520000E 714000N 0470000E 732000N 0500000E
711000N 0492000E UNL GND
I think that it may cover both of the following Russian Launches from Plesetsk Cosmodrome as the start date and end date cover both launches:
December 23 2013 two calibration spheres SKRL-756, Aist No. 1 Soyuz-2-1V/Volga Plesetsk 43/4
December 25 2013 Rodnik satellites (x3) Rokot/Briz-KM Plesetsk 133/3

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Re: First Soyuz-2-1V launch - December 23, 2013 (ETD 1230UTC)
« Reply #26 on: 12/19/2013 08:51 PM »
Map to visualize drop zones ULD1 and ULD2

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Map to visualize drop zones ULD1 and ULD2

So it seems the target orbit is not SSO, but something 70-85 deg. inclination-ish?
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Re: First Soyuz-2-1V launch - December 23, 2013 (ETD 1230UTC)
« Reply #28 on: 12/20/2013 02:46 AM »
Map to visualize drop zones ULD1 and ULD2

So it seems the target orbit is not SSO, but something 70-85 deg. inclination-ish?
According to: http://aist.ssau.ru/docs/Космическая%20платформа%20АИСТ%202013%20г.pptx

It will be 575 km altitude and 64.9 inclination, which is same as orbit for the first Aist, which has flown with Bion-M.

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Re: First Soyuz-2-1V launch - December 23, 2013 (ETD 1230UTC)
« Reply #29 on: 12/20/2013 03:28 AM »

According to: http://aist.ssau.ru/docs/Космическая%20платформа%20АИСТ%202013%20г.pptx

It will be 575 km altitude and 64.9 inclination, which is same as orbit for the first Aist, which has flown with Bion-M.

Found this on the NK forum site.

According to : http://aist.ssau.ru/docs/Космическая%20платформа%20АИСТ%202013%20г.pptx

It will be 575 km altitude and 64.9 inclination

It will be 575 km altitude and 64.9 inclination

It is an orbit for the first Aist, which has flown with Bion-M.
« Last Edit: 12/20/2013 03:28 AM by Danderman »

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Re: First Soyuz-2-1v launch - December 23, 2013 (ETD 1230UTC)
« Reply #30 on: 12/20/2013 01:07 PM »
I've just been told that they have problems during launch preparation, but the launch is still scheduled for 23rd December.

No more informations right now, sorry.
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Andrey is reporting on NK that the launch has slipped to December 25 at the same launch time. Now with a Rokot launch scheduled just half a day earlier can those at Plesetsk pull out two launches in 12 hours? After all it's no Baikonur where rockets are dozens of kilometers apart....  ::)
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Re: First Soyuz-2-1v launch - December 23, 2013 (ETD 1230UTC)
« Reply #33 on: 12/22/2013 12:21 PM »
Andrey is reporting on NK that the launch has slipped to December 25 at the same launch time. Now with a Rokot launch scheduled just half a day earlier can those at Plesetsk pull out two launches in 12 hours? After all it's no Baikonur where rockets are dozens of kilometers apart....  ::)

Well they used to do that all the time during Soviet times, so shouldn't be a problem.

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Andrey is reporting on NK that the launch has slipped to December 25 at the same launch time. Now with a Rokot launch scheduled just half a day earlier can those at Plesetsk pull out two launches in 12 hours? After all it's no Baikonur where rockets are dozens of kilometers apart....  ::)

Or is that December 24? http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum12/topic12873/message1176024/#message1176024
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New launch date December 24 confirmed

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V8247/13 -  DANGER AREAS ACT: ULD1, ULD2. SFC - UNL, DAILY 1200-1300, 24 DEC 12:00 2013 UNTIL 27 DEC 13:00 2013. CREATED: 22 DEC 11:01 2013

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Wonder if this NOTAM for "space debris" over South Pacific later on December 24 is related to this launch
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B5916/13 -  TEMPO DANGER AREA NZD026 (EAST AUCKLAND OCEANIC FIR) IS PRESCRIBED AS FOLLOWS: ALL THAT AIRSPACE BOUNDED BY A LINE JOINING S 30 00 00.0, W 131 00 00.0 S 30 00 00.0, W 175 00 00.0 S 60 00 00.0, W 175 00 00.0 S 60 00 00.0, W 131 00 00.0 S 30 00 00.0, W 131 00 00.0 ACTIVITY: SPACE DEBRIS RETURN. USER AGENCY: FOREIGN SPACE AGENCY. PRESCRIBED PURSUANT TO CIVIL AVIATION RULE PART 71 UNDER A DELEGATED AUTHORITY ISSUED BY THE DIRECTOR OF CIVIL AVIATION. SFC - FL999, 24 DEC 20:00 2013 UNTIL 24 DEC 22:30 2013. CREATED: 22 DEC 12:11 2013

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I'm looking at this as a new rocket, since it uses a new first stage and first stage propulsion system.  It surely isn't an R-7.  It is "Soyuz" only in the same sense that "Atlas 5" claims a link to the original "Atlas", despite using a completely different booster stage in place of the part that was originally called "Atlas".

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http://www.interfax.ru/news/348266

The launch is postponed to December 24th.

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I'm looking at this as a new rocket, since it uses a new first stage and first stage propulsion system.  It surely isn't an R-7.  It is "Soyuz" only in the same sense that "Atlas 5" claims a link to the original "Atlas", despite using a completely different booster stage in place of the part that was originally called "Atlas".

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I'm wavering on this one. I go with the core stage, and the core stage has some commonalities. New engine, true,
but the basic dimensions are essentially the same as the R-7 Blok A.  I didn't count an RD-180-engined Atlas 3 as a
new family despite its new propulsion system, and I didn't consider the TR-201-powered Delta second stage
as a different stage family from the AJ-10-118 powered versions. So I'm leaning towards keeping the Soyuz-2-1V launches
in my 'R-7' family table.
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