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Re: 1st Soyuz-2.1v launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC
« Reply #180 on: 12/28/2013 05:05 PM »
Thx Artyom,

Just FYI
that "video" only has 2 photo's of the launch, no moving images...
(yeah i know, nitpick...)

« Last Edit: 12/28/2013 05:05 PM by Jester »

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More objects found - looks like the one I mentioned earlier (2013-078A/39490) is the rocket's 2nd stage...

2013-078B/39491: 595 x 625 km x 82.42 deg.
2013-078C/39492: 598 x 626 km x 82.42 deg.
2013-078D/39493: 599 x 626 km x 82.42 deg.
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Re: 1st Soyuz-2.1v launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC
« Reply #182 on: 12/28/2013 05:14 PM »

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Re: 1st Soyuz-2.1v launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC
« Reply #183 on: 12/28/2013 05:15 PM »
Artyom, stop teasing us! Please post the actual video!  :)
Okay  :D .

It was a live broadcast TV channel "Channel One"

Replay - http://www.1tv.ru/news/techno/249348  ;) .

Same video on Youtube:


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Re: 1st Soyuz-2.1v launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC
« Reply #184 on: 12/28/2013 05:21 PM »
More objects found - looks like the one I mentioned earlier (2013-078A/39490) is the rocket's 2nd stage...

2013-078B/39491: 595 x 625 km x 82.42 deg.
2013-078C/39492: 598 x 626 km x 82.42 deg.
2013-078D/39493: 599 x 626 km x 82.42 deg.

and now also Object E
2013-078E/39494: 602 x 625 km x 82.42
so they did catalog Volga?

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Re: 1st Soyuz-2.1v launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC
« Reply #185 on: 12/28/2013 05:41 PM »
Artyom, stop teasing us! Please post the actual video!  :)
Okay  :D .

It was a live broadcast TV channel "Channel One"

Replay - http://www.1tv.ru/news/techno/249348  ;) .

Same video on Youtube:



http://www.vesti.ru/only_video.html?vid=564845    this isn't bad however no launch video just into the clouds.  Good enough for now
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Re: 1st Soyuz-2.1v launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC
« Reply #186 on: 12/28/2013 05:44 PM »
Yes, second stage. I meant to say second stage. Hard habit to break, thinking of the Blok I as third stage all these years!
It did sort of start as the second stage of the R-9, part of the same family?

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Re: 1st Soyuz-2.1v launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC
« Reply #187 on: 12/28/2013 06:03 PM »
Just saw the launch video (from the ground) on 24  My guess paid off  ;)

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Re: 1st Soyuz-2.1v launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC
« Reply #188 on: 12/28/2013 06:10 PM »

http://www.vesti.ru/only_video.html?vid=564845    this isn't bad however no launch video just into the clouds.  Good enough for now

Video about preparation :

http://www.vesti.ru/videos?vid=563751

Please these two videos on youtube. vesti.ru doesn't work for me  :(

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Re: 1st Soyuz-2.1v launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC
« Reply #189 on: 12/28/2013 06:26 PM »
vesti.ru doesn't work for me  :(
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Re: 1st Soyuz-2.1v launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC
« Reply #190 on: 12/28/2013 06:33 PM »
Yes, second stage. I meant to say second stage. Hard habit to break, thinking of the Blok I as third stage all these years!
It did sort of start as the second stage of the R-9, part of the same family?

Yep.

After 50 years, they have re-invented the R-9. Edit: R-9 was an early ICBM with RD-111 as the first stage engine and RD-110 as the second stage engine, basically an analog of Titan I, which makes this Soyuz also an analog of Titan I.


BTW, it should be noted that the first stage engines are NK-33, not AJ-26. They come directly from Samara.

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Re: 1st Soyuz-2.1v launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC
« Reply #191 on: 12/28/2013 06:41 PM »
Yes, second stage. I meant to say second stage. Hard habit to break, thinking of the Blok I as third stage all these years!
It did sort of start as the second stage of the R-9, part of the same family?

Yep.

After 50 years, they have re-invented the R-9.

BTW, it should be noted that the first stage engines are NK-33, not AJ-26. They come directly from Samara.
NO they are NK-33A (Modernized NK-33 updated with 21st century Engine controller and other new 21st Century systems installed to complete the creation of modernized NK-33 which is realized into the world as NK-33A) which Comes via Samara.

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Re: 1st Soyuz-2.1v launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC
« Reply #193 on: 12/28/2013 07:06 PM »
Congratulations to newborn ! :)
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Re: 1st Soyuz-2.1v launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC
« Reply #194 on: 12/28/2013 08:50 PM »
Just spotted this gets to be the last launch of 2013.

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Re: 1st Soyuz-2.1v launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC
« Reply #195 on: 12/28/2013 08:54 PM »
Just spotted this gets to be the last launch of 2013.

Unless the Iranians or some other player launch one unexpectedly!
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Re: 1st Soyuz-2.1v launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC
« Reply #196 on: 12/28/2013 09:12 PM »
Congratulations!

Btw, is this rocket meant to launch with 4 boosters as well in the future? I seem to recall seeing concept images of a heavy Soyuz launcher with the core powered by NK-33. It would be a neat evolution of the current Soyuz launcher to be able to launch with 0, 2, or 4 boosters depending on what performance is needed.
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Re: 1st Soyuz-2.1v launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC
« Reply #197 on: 12/28/2013 09:21 PM »
That would be the Soyuz 2.3 and Soyuz 3 variants.  Other notional plans included a cryogenic upper stage.   It's not clear if it will ever be developed or replaced with a totally new launch vehicle family.  I think the latter is more likely.

http://russianspaceweb.com/soyuz5.html
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Re: 1st Soyuz-2.1v launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC
« Reply #198 on: 12/28/2013 10:07 PM »
That would be the Soyuz 2.3 and Soyuz 3 variants.  Other notional plans included a cryogenic upper stage.   It's not clear if it will ever be developed or replaced with a totally new launch vehicle family.  I think the latter is more likely.

http://russianspaceweb.com/soyuz5.html
4  (four) RD-120.10F engines   might still be the next upgrade path (a good one).  They have serial production in the Ukraine.  Might be a good tradeoff for cash.
or a brand new RD-0155 engine (not much info available on this engine)
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Re: 1st Soyuz-2.1v launch with AIST - December 28 2013 1230UTC
« Reply #199 on: 12/28/2013 10:28 PM »
Artyom, stop teasing us! Please post the actual video!  :)
Okay  :D .

It was a live broadcast TV channel "Channel One"

Replay - http://www.1tv.ru/news/techno/249348  ;) .

Same video on Youtube:



http://www.vesti.ru/only_video.html?vid=564845    this isn't bad however no launch video just into the clouds.  Good enough for now
Something new :):
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201312281816-vwo3.htm

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