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Online Jakusb

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Please check discussion over here:
Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 v1.1 - CASSIOPE - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD (2)
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32859.msg1109408#msg1109408

Both shots ARE from the video, which I've seen. And yes the second one is literally a sec before it hits the water.
« Last Edit: 10/16/2013 02:36 PM by Jakusb »

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At least it looks like 3 engines to me.

It looks like a motion-blurred smudge to me. Based on the (low) resolution and the incoming angle compared to the other image, I would agree that it's likely showing the 1st burn.

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This is the update thread - please discus this on the discussion thread.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32859.540

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With so many objects, are we still buying the "insulation" story?

 - Ed Kyle

Do we have any real idea what the debris objects are if not insulation? And if so, based on what (other than orbital longevity of the items)?
To be blunt no one here knows anything for certain. It's all just speculation. Most likely, this will never be fully cleared up. I don't think SpaceX will be giving a qualified response that is satisfactory to everyone. They've already moved on to the next launch.
SpaceX will, of course, have to study and understand the Falcon 9 debris creation issue and work to prevent a recurrence.  It, and its payload customers, have multiple reasons to minimize orbital debris.  Some of its customers are participating in the UN space debris committee and have agreed to follow its guidelines.

 - Ed Kyle 
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As I understand, the secondary payload dispenser is made by SpaceX, it was built for this specific mission, and this is also a 'first time product' for SpaceX. Is it possible that this devise can be the source of some extra objects ?

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Doesn't DANDE have an adapter bracket that is released after separation as well?  Is this already accounted for?

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Doesn't DANDE have an adapter bracket that is released after separation as well?  Is this already accounted for?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_and_Atmospheric_Neutral_Density_Explorer
Wiki says DANDE's adapter bracket is scheduled for release on day 14 after the launch. So, by now it should be a separate object.

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The adaptor was still attached as of October 14th:
http://spacegrant.colorado.edu/dande-news

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...and jettisoned yesterday.

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Space Track now identifies four of the objects as the POPACS spacers.  They are 55R/39280, 55Y/39290, 55AA/39292 and 55AB/39293.

Offline Lars_J

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FYI, this may be the first 'official' (although 2nd hand) explanation for the 2nd stage restart issue. This was noted by sdsds in the SES-8 discussion thread)

https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/403753325201350657
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Peter B. de Selding ‏@pbdes
SpaceX Falcon 9 flight Sept 29 upper-stage non-re-ignition caused by frozen fuel lines after O2 exposure. Insulation added for next flight.

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SFN is reporting that it was frozen TEA-TEB that caused the anomaly.

Offline Martin FL

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News.com also reporting things we also knew here before. Thanks CorrodedNut!

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This might be a piece of the Cassiope flight fairing given that the author lives in L.A.:

Source: https://twitter.com/ShorealoneFilms/status/412819085752152064

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Interesting. How would they have located it? Transponder or beacon on each fairing half?

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Perhaps it simply washed up ashore somewhere, fairings tend to do that.

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This might be a piece of the Cassiope flight fairing given that the author lives in L.A.:

Source: https://twitter.com/ShorealoneFilms/status/412819085752152064

As you can see from the logo'd webbing, SpaceX have come to clean up their garbage.

I can see the faux-drama headline now: SpaceX rocket disaster cover-up!
When I say "Jump!", you say "To which orbital inclination?"

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Interesting to see the CASSIOPE launch from the VAFB media site and the facilities they set up for the press.




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Report is that the Air Force will count the CASSIOPE flight towards certification.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/business/20140225/spacex-moves-closer-to-air-force-launches

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OUTSTANDING!!

Excellent news.
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