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Online Chris Bergin

Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #460 on: 05/25/2015 01:04 PM »
I've never really used the unread topics option, but I just did and got three pages of threads going back over the last 24 hours.

I'll click it again tomorrow, and maybe from the laptop on a different browser and such as I reckon your issue may be something to do with switching between points of entry.

Not really sure, but I'll see how functional it is for me.

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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #461 on: 05/25/2015 03:14 PM »
I just got 6 pages going back 3 days since my last sign in.
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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #462 on: 05/25/2015 06:25 PM »
It's not a consistent thing.  It happened to me twice this past week; hasn't happened before.  I mentioned it in case someone had made a tweak to the system recently; sometimes there are unexpected changes when that happens.  Absent that, I'll see if I can reproduce and/or characterize the behavior; but if I'm the only one noticing anything (sporadically), it's not a big deal.

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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #463 on: 05/26/2015 05:00 AM »
"Moderator Action Section"
"Report to Moderator" messages.

I have never heard of either of these sections. How are they accessed?  I suppose the answer is "become a moderator"  :(.
« Last Edit: 05/26/2015 05:02 AM by cosmicvoid »
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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #464 on: 05/29/2015 12:57 PM »
Well that was odd! The forum sometimes goes through a 40 second cycle where it goes off on a break and comes back refreshed and happy....no drama as no one really notices it and it's usually 10:30am GMT ish, when the site is quiet.

About 10 mins ago it did it again - as I was posting - and I thought "Ok, wait a minute" but it didn't come back.

News site was fine - as it usually is during the above - but the forum was just "waiting". So went to the control panel with the servers and rebooted. Wouldn't let me so did a power cycle (thanks to Mark's suggestion via his car!) and then rebooted.

And we're back!

Sorry about that! We'll work out what the deal was there.

PS It wasn't a bad gateway error. If you saw that, that was when I was power cycling and rebooting.

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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #465 on: 06/06/2015 01:19 PM »
There is an issue with Youtube integration and Firefox. I cannot see them, they are blocked by Firefox.
If I allow Firefox to show non https content in https pages, they show up.
My version of Firefox is 38.0.5.

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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #466 on: 06/06/2015 08:14 PM »
There is an issue with Youtube integration and Firefox. I cannot see them, they are blocked by Firefox.
If I allow Firefox to show non https content in https pages, they show up.
My version of Firefox is 38.0.5.

Firefox is actively starting to drop support of html5 features and other stuff when not connected on a secured connection (https://). See:
https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2015/04/30/deprecating-non-secure-http/
http://www.infoworld.com/article/2917575/encryption/mozillas-firefox-https-or-bust.html

There are no signs of other browsers going as extreme as Firefox on this point, yet. I'd be surprised if they succeed on getting other vendors to as extreme route.

If you don't like Mozilla's direction, then I'd suggest on showing your opinion to them by switching to another browser.
« Last Edit: 06/06/2015 08:16 PM by mtakala24 »

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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #467 on: 06/06/2015 09:46 PM »
If you don't like Mozilla's direction, then I'd suggest on showing your opinion to them by switching to another browser.

That'll cement their direction and give them legitimacy. Unfortunately, the only way to affect the direction of Firefox is to get involved in the bureaucracy.
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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #468 on: 06/06/2015 11:35 PM »
It is starting to get off-topic for this thread, but Mozilla gets a good amount of money by bundled search providers in Firefox. Those are negotiated beforehand, though. I do believe that they will want to keep up their market share as high as it is, and the current direction they are heading is good for the security of the WWW but not good for their market share.

Lets see how things develop.. meanwhile, if there is an option in the forum software/code to change the embedded youtubing to use https:// it should solve the problem for now - until Mozilla removes another thing for non-https sites.

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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #469 on: 06/07/2015 01:57 AM »
There is an issue with Youtube integration and Firefox. I cannot see them, they are blocked by Firefox.
If I allow Firefox to show non https content in https pages, they show up.
My version of Firefox is 38.0.5.

Firefox is actively starting to drop support of html5 features and other stuff when not connected on a secured connection (https://). See:
https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2015/04/30/deprecating-non-secure-http/
http://www.infoworld.com/article/2917575/encryption/mozillas-firefox-https-or-bust.html

There are no signs of other browsers going as extreme as Firefox on this point, yet. I'd be surprised if they succeed on getting other vendors to as extreme route.

If you don't like Mozilla's direction, then I'd suggest on showing your opinion to them by switching to another browser.

This shouldn’t have anything to do with the non-secure HTTP deprecation announcement, which is about future features after a future date.

Embedded YouTube videos on NSF work for me in Firefox 38.0.5 and 40.0a2 (2015-06-06). Have you tried a clean profile? If that works, try searching for media.*.enabled in about:config and making sure everything is set to the default.

Edit: Wait, I didn’t pay enough attention. If you’re using NSF via https and it tries to embed something via http, then by design Firefox won’t show them unless you toggle that pref. NSF should probably switch to using https for embedded content as mtakala24 mentioned.

Edit 2: Mozilla toggled that pref to on by default in Firefox 23, so if you’re just seeing this issue now I assume it’s because you’ve recently switched to https for NSF (or installed something like HTTPS Everywhere). Switching back will fix the problem for now.
« Last Edit: 06/07/2015 02:11 AM by WulfTheSaxon »

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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #470 on: 06/07/2015 09:03 AM »
This shouldn’t have anything to do with the non-secure HTTP deprecation announcement, which is about future features after a future date.

True, they actually haven't done anything yet, and they haven't set any dates. I thought they had when I saw and glimpsed through the news this past week.

Theregister.co.uk had this to say in their article:
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Mozilla plans to depreciate HTTP by first making "new features... available only to secure websites". Then, at some point it will be "gradually phasing out access to browser features for non-secure websites". A site without HTTPS won't work with HTML5 features in Firefox.

Mozilla's plan, therefore, is to break the web for Firefox and hope that convinces developers to get on board with HTTPS.

which implies that they will gradually be less compatible with non-secure websites, and even removing features.



And, in the end, it is not much better to just use https. The real security comes when certificates are included in the mix. Prevents site impersonation by rogue parties.
« Last Edit: 06/07/2015 10:56 AM by mtakala24 »

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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #471 on: 06/08/2015 02:01 AM »
This shouldn’t have anything to do with the non-secure HTTP deprecation announcement, which is about future features after a future date.

True, they actually haven't done anything yet, and they haven't set any dates. I thought they had when I saw and glimpsed through the news this past week.

Theregister.co.uk had this to say in their article:
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Mozilla plans to depreciate HTTP by first making "new features... available only to secure websites". Then, at some point it will be "gradually phasing out access to browser features for non-secure websites". A site without HTTPS won't work with HTML5 features in Firefox.

Mozilla's plan, therefore, is to break the web for Firefox and hope that convinces developers to get on board with HTTPS.

which implies that they will gradually be less compatible with non-secure websites, and even removing features.



And, in the end, it is not much better to just use https. The real security comes when certificates are included in the mix. Prevents site impersonation by rogue parties.

Certificates will be required. (And removal of existing features would be in the far future, if ever.)

Anyway, we’re veering waaay off topic here.  :P

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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #472 on: 06/08/2015 01:38 PM »
changed the YT mod to use https

pending more tests
« Last Edit: 06/08/2015 02:39 PM by Jester »

Online Chris Bergin

Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #473 on: 06/08/2015 01:50 PM »
Very cool! And I don't know if it was related, but the site went very slow for about five minutes, so I soft rebooted the servers.


EDIT: OK, something isn't agreeing with the forum on the above, so we've pulled the change. All youtube auto-embedding is off right now, but I'm sure it'll come back as it was previously. Main thing was to stop the forum from going sluggish.

Been fine for the past 15 mins.

EDIT: Embedded youtube is back as it was yesterday.

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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #474 on: 06/20/2015 03:30 PM »
Not sure if this is the right spot but you guys just got a nice shout out on the KSC bus tour.

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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #475 on: 06/20/2015 04:03 PM »
Not sure if this is the right spot but you guys just got a nice shout out on the KSC bus tour.

Oh that's cool! :)

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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #476 on: 06/21/2015 03:19 PM »
Hey, guys -- I just ran across something odd while making a post.

The text controls above the text entry box in the post page have become unavailable.  Everything looks fine, but clicking on any of the buttons -- for bold or italics, or even to insert an emoji -- acts like you clicked anywhere outside of the text box.  It pulls focus outside of the text box and has no other effect.  So, for example, if I highlight a word and click the italics button, instead of placing the selected text inside the italics on and off tags, all it does is pull focus outside of the text box, removing the highlight of the selected word and removing the cursor display from the text box.  Even without having anything highlighted in the text box -- for example, trying to click on an emoji -- has the same effect, the cursor disappears from the text box, and nothing else occurs.

I don't know if this is an issue with the forum software itself, or with Chrome.  I'm using Chrome version 43.0.2357.124 m, under Windows 7 SP1.  But it's a new thing, in that I was able to use the text controls as late as a couple of days ago.

FYI...
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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #477 on: 06/21/2015 03:55 PM »
Checking with Internet Explorer 11, same issue, all text control buttons have no effect other than to pull focus out of the text editor box.  So, it seems to be a forum software issue, not a browser issue.
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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #478 on: 06/21/2015 04:20 PM »
Checking with Internet Explorer 11, same issue, all text control buttons have no effect other than to pull focus out of the text editor box.  So, it seems to be a forum software issue, not a browser issue.

I can confirm that this is happening in Safari as well, both on older v6 and the current v8.

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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #479 on: 06/21/2015 06:37 PM »
For me that bar has never worked in Chrome, but works in Firefox. Got to be some browser/software incompatibility that may have sneaked in more so with some upgraded versions of browsers, but we're due to give the forum a go over with the duster, so good notes.



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