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Offline William Graham

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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #40 on: 11/15/2013 10:48 PM »
Anyone providing live coverage online? The launch doesn't seem to be on NASA TV's schedule.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nasa-tv-wallops

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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #41 on: 11/16/2013 03:02 PM »
Cal Poly has posted a partial list. While it only includes 5 P-PODs, they also have pictures, beacon information, and a link to most of their websites.
http://cubesat.org/index.php/missions/upcoming-launches/135-ors3-launch-alert
« Last Edit: 11/16/2013 03:09 PM by rcaron »
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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #42 on: 11/16/2013 03:31 PM »
There has been some speculation as to the identity of the missing four satellites. Some sources list CSIP, TetherSat (which could be counted as one or two satellites since it consists of two CubeSats joined by a tether) and Rampart as additional ELaNa payloads, however Robert Christie of Zarya.info (http://www.zarya.info/blog/?p=1782) presents quite a good case for there being four pairs of Prometheus satellites, as opposed to four individual satellites.

Rampart is not on board, as Gil Moore told me, that this satellite missed the deadline for some technical reasons.

Is TetherSat definitely aboard? It's been missing from quite a few of the lists that I've seen and would seem to complicate the PPOD assignments

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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #43 on: 11/16/2013 03:35 PM »
Is TetherSat definitely aboard? It's been missing from quite a few of the lists that I've seen and would seem to complicate the PPOD assignments

I am still investigating this issue. I can not yet confirm neither the presence or absence from this launch.

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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #44 on: 11/18/2013 01:57 PM »
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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #45 on: 11/18/2013 02:54 PM »
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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #46 on: 11/19/2013 05:14 AM »
Cal Poly has posted a partial list. While it only includes 5 P-PODs, they also have pictures, beacon information, and a link to most of their websites.
http://cubesat.org/index.php/missions/upcoming-launches/135-ors3-launch-alert

This is interesting as it gives the P-POD assignments. The NASA wafer is thought to have 8  3U P-PODs;
this list gives 2,3,5,6,7,  but with position 3C not listed.

So what is in 1, 4,8 and 3C?.

The Elana IV info at http://www.nasa.gov/content/nasa-cubesat-launch-initiative-10-small-student-built-satellites-selected-to-launch-in-bonus
(and the factsheet there)  lists only 11 satellites as part of Elana IV, no NPS-SCAT, no Black Knight, so they are not considered
part of Elana IV - DoD satellites sharing the ride, but integrated with Elana IV as we see from NPS-SCAT's position
in PPOD 5B.  Perhaps Black Knight is in PPOD 3C, or it was delayed and that slot has ballast.

The upper wafer also has 24U worth of slots, in 4 dispensers of 6U capacity.  ORSES, ORS Tech 1, SENSE-1, SENSE-2,
Firefly, and Horus-STARE account for 3 of these dispensers. Prometheus 1 to 4, at 1.5U each, would account for the
final one, and complete the upper wafer with 10 satellites.

This leaves 5 satellites, as Bob Christy points out, and 9U of lower-deck capacity.
Bob's suggestion of  4 x 1.5U Prometheus plus 1 x 3U ORS Tech seems to fit nicely, which would imply Tethersat
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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #47 on: 11/19/2013 08:40 AM »
The Elana IV info at http://www.nasa.gov/content/nasa-cubesat-launch-initiative-10-small-student-built-satellites-selected-to-launch-in-bonus
(and the factsheet there)  lists only 11 satellites as part of Elana IV, no NPS-SCAT, no Black Knight, so they are not considered
part of Elana IV - DoD satellites sharing the ride, but integrated with Elana IV as we see from NPS-SCAT's position
in PPOD 5B.  Perhaps Black Knight is in PPOD 3C, or it was delayed and that slot has ballast.
I think it is more likely that Black Knight (or at least some 1U CubeSat) is in that slot. If it were ballast then it would presumably not count towards the total number of CubeSats announced - leaving us with another one to find and no space left if Bob Christy's analysis is correct.


That said, it should be noted that Black Knight was selected for an ELaNa launch in the February 2011 block.
« Last Edit: 11/19/2013 08:44 AM by William Graham »

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Re: LIVE: Orbital Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - November 19, 2013
« Reply #49 on: 11/19/2013 04:06 PM »
This appears to be the last Minotaur 1 launch on the current backlog.  Could it be the final Minotaur 1?

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Re: LIVE: Orbital Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - November 19, 2013
« Reply #50 on: 11/19/2013 04:11 PM »
This appears to be the last Minotaur 1 launch on the current backlog.  Could it be the final Minotaur 1?

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There is no indication, that the Minotaur-1 family is to be terminated now.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - November 19, 2013
« Reply #51 on: 11/19/2013 04:24 PM »
This appears to be the last Minotaur 1 launch on the current backlog.  Could it be the final Minotaur 1?

 - Ed Kyle

There is no indication, that the Minotaur-1 family is to be terminated now.
But it currently holds no launch contracts under OSP-3 Lane 1, correct?

 - Ed Kyle

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Re: LIVE: Orbital Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - November 19, 2013
« Reply #52 on: 11/19/2013 04:37 PM »
This appears to be the last Minotaur 1 launch on the current backlog.  Could it be the final Minotaur 1?

 - Ed Kyle

There is no indication, that the Minotaur-1 family is to be terminated now.
But it currently holds no launch contracts under OSP-3 Lane 1, correct?

 - Ed Kyle
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Re: LIVE: Orbital Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - November 19, 2013
« Reply #53 on: 11/19/2013 06:49 PM »
From NASA's Wallops Flight Facility facebook...

Weather report for tonight shows high thin clouds at launch with a 100% probability of acceptable weather. However, we are red for space weather because of an X-ray flux event. That is being investigated. In addition we are working an issue with a back-up flight termination system transmitter at our downrange tracking site at Coquina, NC.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - November 19, 2013
« Reply #54 on: 11/19/2013 07:14 PM »
From NASA's Wallops Flight Facility facebook...

Weather report for tonight shows high thin clouds at launch with a 100% probability of acceptable weather. However, we are red for space weather because of an X-ray flux event. That is being investigated. In addition we are working an issue with a back-up flight termination system transmitter at our downrange tracking site at Coquina, NC.

Hmm, what's the deal with an X-ray flux? SFN said associated with solar storm. Is there any chance that sort of thing could clear in time?

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check spaceweather here...

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/rt_plots/index.html

not sure how long the flux level will stay high
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Re: LIVE: Orbital Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - November 19, 2013
« Reply #56 on: 11/19/2013 07:46 PM »
What timeframe would they nees to decide to scrub due to flux?  Will we know an hour in advance?  Or just minutes before?

Probably going to drive about an hour to get a clear view of launch so am curious for planning purposes.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - November 19, 2013
« Reply #57 on: 11/19/2013 07:51 PM »
It is worth noting the flare about 5 hours ago was an X1, that is a pretty large flare. We are at the peak of the solar cycle.

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/rt_plots/xray_5m.html

 
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Re: LIVE: Orbital Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - November 19, 2013
« Reply #58 on: 11/19/2013 08:01 PM »
From NASA's Wallops Flight Facility facebook...

Launch vehicle checks including flight termination system, vehicle navigation, vehicle sequence and internal power have been completed. The launch team continues to work towards a 7:30 p.m. launch.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - November 19, 2013
« Reply #59 on: 11/19/2013 08:12 PM »
tweet from spaceflight now at https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/statuses/402902877191938048

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The X-ray flux issue is no longer a concern for the Minotaur, and countdown is on track for 7:30 pm EST launch.

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