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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #20 on: 11/09/2013 03:45 PM »
Just for completeness, the ATK ALV X-1 on 0B...
Higher resolution images of the ALV pathfinder and ALV X-1 flight vehicle on 0-B in 2008.  The flight vehicle also used that expendable umbilical mast.  Note that the rotating service structure appears to have been extended upward by one level since 2008.

(An aside.  ALV X-1 was blown up within site of its pad, and NASA showed the whole thing.)

 - Ed Kyle
« Last Edit: 11/09/2013 03:57 PM by edkyle99 »

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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #21 on: 11/11/2013 12:08 AM »
http://www.orbital.com/NewsInfo/MissionUpdates/MinotaurI_ORS-3/

The launch time has swayed back and forth, but has finally settled down at 6:30 - 10:30 pm EST (23:30 - 03:30 UTC).

Dare I say that this launch will attract even more innocent lookers on the East Coast than the LADEE launch or the 2 Antares launches this year? With the launch time being well after sunset and conveniently located at the evening rush hours, maybe FB/Twitter will be filled with UFO reports next Tuesday.....  ::)
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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #22 on: 11/11/2013 06:59 AM »
Just for completeness, the ATK ALV X-1 on 0B...
Higher resolution images of the ALV pathfinder and ALV X-1 flight vehicle on 0-B in 2008.  The flight vehicle also used that expendable umbilical mast.  Note that the rotating service structure appears to have been extended upward by one level since 2008.

(An aside.  ALV X-1 was blown up within site of its pad, and NASA showed the whole thing.)

 - Ed Kyle

Ed, this is getting ridiculous. Keep your disagreement with SNC's decision to not show the DreamChaser crash on that particular thread please. Thank you.

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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #23 on: 11/11/2013 12:25 PM »
Wooo Who!!! 15 degree zone!!! Wonder if my car's dash can is sensitive enough to record it.

Sorry to take us off topic, If I can find it, I'll head over to the Party Thread now....
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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #24 on: 11/13/2013 07:13 AM »
ORS-3 fact sheet:
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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #25 on: 11/13/2013 01:13 PM »
Does anyone have a confirmed list of the cubesats on board of this mission?

http://www.zarya.info/blog/?p=1782

I googled ORS-3 and this turned up.

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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #26 on: 11/13/2013 11:54 PM »
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U.S. Air Force photo of the Orbital Sciences Corporation #Minotaur 1 rocket on the launch pad NASA's Wallops Flight Facility. The rocket will carry the Ball Aerospace-built STPSat-3 satellite and 28 cubesats into space as part of the ORS-3 mission.
Best quote heard during an inspection, "I was unaware that I was the only one who was aware."

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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #27 on: 11/14/2013 01:55 AM »
Does anyone know, which kind of payload fairing will be used on the ORS-3 mission?

From the photo above it can be seen that the larger fairing is being used.  :)
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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #28 on: 11/14/2013 06:31 AM »
Spaceflight Now reported this flight as a record breaking 29 satellites being launched, maybe a bit OT but what is the current record number on this?

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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #29 on: 11/14/2013 01:48 PM »
Depends how you count Project West Ford... 480,000,000 copper dipoles is hard to beat.
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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #30 on: 11/15/2013 06:50 AM »
http://www.orbital.com/NewsInfo/MissionUpdates/MinotaurI_ORS-3/

The launch time has swayed back and forth, but has finally settled down at 6:30 - 10:30 pm EST (23:30 - 03:30 UTC).

Dare I say that this launch will attract even more innocent lookers on the East Coast than the LADEE launch or the 2 Antares launches this year? With the launch time being well after sunset and conveniently located at the evening rush hours, maybe FB/Twitter will be filled with UFO reports next Tuesday.....  ::)

From OSC's update page - the launch time has again been refined to 7:30 - 9:15 pm EST (00:30 - 02:15 UTC, November 20).
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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #31 on: 11/15/2013 01:30 PM »
It was asked once or twice in this thread, but there were no responses. Does anyone know of a complete list of cubesats on this flight? My google-fu has turned up nothing. I understand one of the cubesats is from a high school, a first apparently.

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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #32 on: 11/15/2013 02:41 PM »
To my knowledge, these are the payloads on this flight. But there is one missin to the reported 29 payloads.

1   ORS 3 (experiments on upper stage)
2   STPSat 3 (main satellite payload)
3   ORSES
4   ORS Tech 1
5   ORS Tech 2
6   Prometheus 1
7   Prometheus 2
8   Prometheus 3
9   Prometheus 4
10   SENSE 1
11   SENSE 2
12   Firefly
13   Ho‘oponopono 2
14   STARE B (Horus)
15   TetherSat 1
16   TetherSat 2
17   Black Knight 1
18   CAPE 2
19   ChargerSat 1
20   COPPER (SLU 01)
21   DragonSat 1
22   KySat 2
23   NPS-SCAT
24   PhoneSat v2.4
25   TJ3Sat
26   Trailblazer 1 (SPA-1 Trailblazer)
27   SwampSat
28   Vermont Lunar Cubesat

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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #33 on: 11/15/2013 02:45 PM »
There are actually 31 payloads on this launch; STPSat-3, the 28 CubeSats and two "non-separating tertiary payloads". If we're counting BPA-3 as a payload on the Dnepr then we should count those two as well here.
http://www.orbital.com/NewsInfo/MissionUpdates/MinotaurI_ORS-3/

The attached payloads are an autonomous FTS technology demonstration package and an experimental system for passively deorbiting the upper stage.

There are 24 CubeSats that we know about:

ELANA-IV CubeSats:
* Ho'oponopono-2
* KySat-2
* DragonSat-1
* Traliblazer
* ChargerSat
* PhoneSat-2.4
* Vermont Lunar CubeSat
* COPPER
* SwampSat
* CAPE-2
* TJ3SAT
* NPS-SCAT*
* Black Knight*

* Some sources list NPS-SCAT and Black Knight as being part of the military payload rather than the NASA payload. They make more sense as NASA payloads, since otherwise there would be empty slots in two of the PPODs. A NASA presentation from April stated 11 satellites in 4 PPODs, but even without the two extra satellites five PPODs would be required.

Military payloads:
* ORSES
* ORS Tech 1
* ORS Tech 2
* Prometheus 1
* Prometheus 2
* Prometheus 3
* Prometheus 4
* SENSE-1
* SENSE-2
* Firefly
* Horus

There has been some speculation as to the identity of the missing four satellites. Some sources list CSIP, TetherSat (which could be counted as one or two satellites since it consists of two CubeSats joined by a tether) and Rampart as additional ELaNa payloads, however Robert Christie of Zarya.info (http://www.zarya.info/blog/?p=1782) presents quite a good case for there being four pairs of Prometheus satellites, as opposed to four individual satellites.
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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #34 on: 11/15/2013 03:00 PM »
There has been some speculation as to the identity of the missing four satellites. Some sources list CSIP, TetherSat (which could be counted as one or two satellites since it consists of two CubeSats joined by a tether) and Rampart as additional ELaNa payloads, however Robert Christie of Zarya.info (http://www.zarya.info/blog/?p=1782) presents quite a good case for there being four pairs of Prometheus satellites, as opposed to four individual satellites.

Rampart is not on board, as Gil Moore told me, that this satellite missed the deadline for some technical reasons.

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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #35 on: 11/15/2013 03:05 PM »
..<snip>....
and an experimental system for passively deorbiting the upper stage.
...<snip>...

Does that mean a tether?
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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #36 on: 11/15/2013 03:09 PM »
..<snip>....
and an experimental system for passively deorbiting the upper stage.
...<snip>...

Does that mean a tether?

No, a sail.
It is similar to the one on STPSat-3: http://www.mmadesignllc.com/products/dragnet-de-orbit-system
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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #37 on: 11/15/2013 04:22 PM »
Interesting... probably not the place for a debate on drag enhancers vs. tethers but very cool.

Shame it it not aluminized... that kind of area would be quite fun to watch sail past. 
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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #38 on: 11/15/2013 06:20 PM »
With all these PhoneSats being launched, it's about time somebody sent ChargerSat to service them.

(sorry) :)


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Re: Minotaur-1 - ORS 3 - Wallops Island - November 2013
« Reply #39 on: 11/15/2013 10:44 PM »
Anyone providing live coverage online? The launch doesn't seem to be on NASA TV's schedule.

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