Quote from: IslandPlaya on 10/10/2014 08:00 PMWhat would be the complications on conducting experiments in my garage?I would need a copper frustum and optimised dielectric designed by you guys.RF power source.Suspend the whole thing from a wire and see if it moves.Am I missing anything?Actually, I don't think you're missing anything, if your setup could be optimized to demonstrate well above the noicse floor of the current setup. If you're putting a couple hundred watts into it, and it moves like a rubber band airplane, then I'd say congratulations, you are success.

What would be the complications on conducting experiments in my garage?I would need a copper frustum and optimised dielectric designed by you guys.RF power source.Suspend the whole thing from a wire and see if it moves.Am I missing anything?

Quote from: Mulletron on 10/11/2014 02:37 PMSo let me get this straight...[collect copper underpants... The big question mark is whether the microwave (~2GHz) EmDrive [copper ?] flat walls can make a horizon. ...Four questions really:1) Is the NASA Eagleworks truncated cone a complete, closed, Faraday cage, including both flat end surfaces? (are the end surfaces also made of copper?)2) Is it correct to assume that the light/electrons in the EmDrive experience the huge accelerations required for Unruh radiation ?3) Is it correct to assume that the Unruh wave patterns close at the [copper ?] flat walls just as at the Hubble horizon ?4) Is McCulloch's MiHsC theory correct that inertial mass is caused by Unruh radiation, and so it is affected by the Hubble horizon since Unruh waves must fit exactly within this horizon?.

So let me get this straight...[collect copper underpants...

To be clear, unruh waves are synonymous with saying all possible radiation because the unruh waves and unruh radiation is tied to the vacuum which is stochastic. 9 inches is 1315.78 mhz.

6 inches is 1974mhz

OK, we got an answer:Dr. Rodal: <<Prof. McCulloch, do I understand correctly the statement "a metal box will not effect Unruh waves because for typical accelerations (9.8m/s^2) they are light years long, but for huge accelerations (as I assume for the light/electrons in the EmDrive) the Unruh waves are affected by the copper wall" to mean that for your above simplified formula to be based on MiHsC, the accelerations of the electrons need to be large enough so that Unruh radiation can significantly affect the inertial mass such that milliNewton forces can be experienced?>>Prof. McCulloch: <<Yes: the accelerating objects inside the shell/cavity must accelerate (a) fast enough that the Unruh waves they see become short enough to be damped by the shell. The formula is: wavelength~8c^2/a so, for example, to get Unruh waves 1 metre long you need a=7.2*10^17 m/s^2.>>

Quote from: Rodal on 10/11/2014 09:02 PMOK, we got an answer:Dr. Rodal: <<Prof. McCulloch, do I understand correctly the statement "a metal box will not effect Unruh waves because for typical accelerations (9.8m/s^2) they are light years long, but for huge accelerations (as I assume for the light/electrons in the EmDrive) the Unruh waves are affected by the copper wall" to mean that for your above simplified formula to be based on MiHsC, the accelerations of the electrons need to be large enough so that Unruh radiation can significantly affect the inertial mass such that milliNewton forces can be experienced?>>Prof. McCulloch: <<Yes: the accelerating objects inside the shell/cavity must accelerate (a) fast enough that the Unruh waves they see become short enough to be damped by the shell. The formula is: wavelength~8c^2/a so, for example, to get Unruh waves 1 metre long you need a=7.2*10^17 m/s^2.>>Ok I get it. You're trying to calculate the acceleration of particles to fit within the band gap of what the walls are excluding. Don't forget the plasma frequency of the material too.

Quote from: Mulletron on 10/11/2014 09:25 PMQuote from: Rodal on 10/11/2014 09:02 PMOK, we got an answer:Dr. Rodal: <<Prof. McCulloch, do I understand correctly the statement "a metal box will not effect Unruh waves because for typical accelerations (9.8m/s^2) they are light years long, but for huge accelerations (as I assume for the light/electrons in the EmDrive) the Unruh waves are affected by the copper wall" to mean that for your above simplified formula to be based on MiHsC, the accelerations of the electrons need to be large enough so that Unruh radiation can significantly affect the inertial mass such that milliNewton forces can be experienced?>>Prof. McCulloch: <<Yes: the accelerating objects inside the shell/cavity must accelerate (a) fast enough that the Unruh waves they see become short enough to be damped by the shell. The formula is: wavelength~8c^2/a so, for example, to get Unruh waves 1 metre long you need a=7.2*10^17 m/s^2.>>Ok I get it. You're trying to calculate the acceleration of particles to fit within the band gap of what the walls are excluding. Don't forget the plasma frequency of the material too.I didn't know there was any plasma frequency to consider. What is "plasma frequency"?Non si capisce pił niente

Quote from: Rodal on 10/11/2014 09:32 PMQuote from: Mulletron on 10/11/2014 09:25 PMQuote from: Rodal on 10/11/2014 09:02 PMOK, we got an answer:Dr. Rodal: <<Prof. McCulloch, do I understand correctly the statement "a metal box will not effect Unruh waves because for typical accelerations (9.8m/s^2) they are light years long, but for huge accelerations (as I assume for the light/electrons in the EmDrive) the Unruh waves are affected by the copper wall" to mean that for your above simplified formula to be based on MiHsC, the accelerations of the electrons need to be large enough so that Unruh radiation can significantly affect the inertial mass such that milliNewton forces can be experienced?>>Prof. McCulloch: <<Yes: the accelerating objects inside the shell/cavity must accelerate (a) fast enough that the Unruh waves they see become short enough to be damped by the shell. The formula is: wavelength~8c^2/a so, for example, to get Unruh waves 1 metre long you need a=7.2*10^17 m/s^2.>>Ok I get it. You're trying to calculate the acceleration of particles to fit within the band gap of what the walls are excluding. Don't forget the plasma frequency of the material too.I didn't know there was any plasma frequency to consider. What is "plasma frequency"?Wish I hadn't gone there. It is the upper frequency limit of a material.

Quote from: Mulletron on 10/11/2014 09:25 PMQuote from: Rodal on 10/11/2014 09:02 PMOK, we got an answer:Dr. Rodal: <<Prof. McCulloch, do I understand correctly the statement "a metal box will not effect Unruh waves because for typical accelerations (9.8m/s^2) they are light years long, but for huge accelerations (as I assume for the light/electrons in the EmDrive) the Unruh waves are affected by the copper wall" to mean that for your above simplified formula to be based on MiHsC, the accelerations of the electrons need to be large enough so that Unruh radiation can significantly affect the inertial mass such that milliNewton forces can be experienced?>>Prof. McCulloch: <<Yes: the accelerating objects inside the shell/cavity must accelerate (a) fast enough that the Unruh waves they see become short enough to be damped by the shell. The formula is: wavelength~8c^2/a so, for example, to get Unruh waves 1 metre long you need a=7.2*10^17 m/s^2.>>Ok I get it. You're trying to calculate the acceleration of particles to fit within the band gap of what the walls are excluding. Don't forget the plasma frequency of the material too.I didn't know there was any plasma frequency to consider. What is "plasma frequency"?

Quote from: Mulletron on 10/11/2014 09:39 PMQuote from: Rodal on 10/11/2014 09:32 PMQuote from: Mulletron on 10/11/2014 09:25 PMQuote from: Rodal on 10/11/2014 09:02 PMOK, we got an answer:Dr. Rodal: <<Prof. McCulloch, do I understand correctly the statement "a metal box will not effect Unruh waves because for typical accelerations (9.8m/s^2) they are light years long, but for huge accelerations (as I assume for the light/electrons in the EmDrive) the Unruh waves are affected by the copper wall" to mean that for your above simplified formula to be based on MiHsC, the accelerations of the electrons need to be large enough so that Unruh radiation can significantly affect the inertial mass such that milliNewton forces can be experienced?>>Prof. McCulloch: <<Yes: the accelerating objects inside the shell/cavity must accelerate (a) fast enough that the Unruh waves they see become short enough to be damped by the shell. The formula is: wavelength~8c^2/a so, for example, to get Unruh waves 1 metre long you need a=7.2*10^17 m/s^2.>>Ok I get it. You're trying to calculate the acceleration of particles to fit within the band gap of what the walls are excluding. Don't forget the plasma frequency of the material too.I didn't know there was any plasma frequency to consider. What is "plasma frequency"?Wish I hadn't gone there. It is the upper frequency limit of a material.I apologize for my bad italian. I meant to write <<no capisce>> that I didn't understand

You're losing me. Where did you find your nuke hat? The thing has a quiet zone inside. Because it is a copper can. Just measure it with a probe and a spec anny.