'The original space shuttle' to come out of hiding in Downey

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« on: 06/15/2012 07:04 PM »

'The original space shuttle' to come out of hiding in Downey

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-forgotten-space-shuttle-20120615,0,6942333.story
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« Reply #1 on: 06/15/2012 07:08 PM »

Some old photos of me inside this model, taken in 1999
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« Reply #2 on: 06/15/2012 07:18 PM »

wow ! this is rather moving. I like very much when "relics" of a lost era emerge.
That, and this mockup had a different "look" than the true shuttles. More retro.

Recently I learned about the Boeing 2707-300 mockup, which travelled from Seattle to Kissimmee, Florida, into a museum that, when bankrupt, was bought by a church.
They celebrated mass under the supersonic wings !
The mockup was ultimately moved out out of the church, taken by a colectioneer near the Cape... and broken in multiple pieces. Ultimately it was the Hiller aviation museum that bought part of it... and the mockup moved to San Fransisco.


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« Reply #3 on: 06/15/2012 07:26 PM »

Really impressive. I had no idea that a detailed cockpit was part of the mockup.  Definitely worth restoring.

Was the truncated tail original? I wonder if that can be restored as well (if they can raise the money, that is).
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« Reply #4 on: 06/15/2012 07:32 PM »

Great News! Thanks for posting it! :)
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« Reply #5 on: 06/15/2012 08:21 PM »

Glad to see an important piece of space history finding a good home. The Columbia Memorial Museum seems like a great place for it.
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« Reply #6 on: 06/16/2012 03:00 AM »

Does this shuttle even have a name? It would be interesting to see it given one if it is being put on display, albiet unnecessary.
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« Reply #7 on: 06/16/2012 06:52 PM »

Does this shuttle even have a name? It would be interesting to see it given one if it is being put on display, albiet unnecessary.


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« Reply #8 on: 06/16/2012 07:32 PM »

I've heard of this Shuttle mock-up before. I'm amazed that it still exists!
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« Reply #9 on: 06/17/2012 01:50 PM »

There are photos of in Jenkins' book, I believe. Isn't it true that it does not quite have the same dimensions as the real Orbiter? If I recall correctly, the OMS pods were a bit smaller and the forward RCS "illustrations" (for lack of a better word) don't match the real thing.
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« Reply #10 on: 06/20/2012 08:10 AM »

It is a mockup of, if I remember correctly, the second to last revision of the design. The OMS pods extended slightly over the payload bay doors to make them more aerodynamic, and the forward rcs was supposed to be mounted on and behind doors that would open once in orbit.
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« Reply #11 on: 06/20/2012 05:37 PM »

Photos of the mockup and details of the 2004 disassembly for preservation can be found here:

- Preserving the Orbiter: Stabilization, Disassembly, Relocation and Storage of an Historic Space Shuttle Mock-Up (attached for archival purposes).
- http://members.tripod.com/airfields_freeman/CA/Airfields_CA_LA_C.htm#vultee

Photos of the mockup, as originally built can be found here:
- http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=28788.0
- http://justurbanism.com/2012/05/12/full-scale-space-shuttle-orbiter/
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« Reply #12 on: 06/21/2012 03:02 AM »

Thanks for the link to my website.

I spoke with John Griswold who did the original conservation of the mockup when they put it in storage and his concern was the poor storage facility provided. So this is great news for a really important piece of history.
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« Reply #13 on: 06/28/2012 06:08 PM »

I live just a few miles from the old Downey plant (which is now a shopping center and hospital). I'll definitely post pictures once they remove the wall that is preventing them from pulling the mockup out of storage and move it down the street to the Columbia Science Center!

The storage conditions for the mockup were not ideal at all. It's basically just sitting inside of one of the old Rockwell buildings with a sheet over it. With the California Science Center eating up much of the shuttle-hugger donations for the new Endeavour exhibit, it'll be difficult for Downey to raise the estimated $2 million to restore the mockup. They'll need to get inventive with their fundraising efforts...perhaps a Kickstarter project to crowdsource the funding?
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« Reply #14 on: 07/08/2012 03:51 AM »

The Downey shuttle mockup will be moved out of storage to be put on display in a tent across the street from the Columbia Science Center on Thursday, 12 July 2012. A ceremony and festivities will be staged by the city to mark the event beginning at 11am PT:

http://downeybeat.com/2012/07/city-announces-date-of-shuttle-mock-up-move-61233/
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