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« Reply #15 on: 06/14/2012 04:30 PM »

At the 19:40 mark. Logsden says there were a number of problems as the Dragon made its approach to the ISS. Besides the LIDAR, what other problems were there?
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« Reply #16 on: 06/15/2012 11:11 AM »

The video was an ISS centric discussion.   With no discussion of other payload destinations (Iridium etc.) or things like Bigelow modules it leaves the taste that NASA/ISS is the only potential customer for commercial space ventures.  This leaves the impression of a much less vigorous and robust potential commercial field.

In fairness, at least in HSF terms, the ISS is the market at the moment.  Bigelow is iffy and will remain so until the first module is operational and housing paying customers of one sort or another.  You can make all sorts of theoretical projections but, right now, the only cargo- and crew-to-LEO mission is to the ISS.

The satelite launch market is pretty crowded; only time will tell if SpaceX can make enough of an impact to ensure that's a reliable revenue stream.

FWIW, I think that a worthwhile commercial space experiment would be to launch a BA330 and set it up as an uncrewed microgravity chemical plant for medicines or something similar.  Raw materials loaded on one end, end products moved to a Cargo Dragon RV at the other with the option to send up maintenance crews by either Dragonrider, Dreamchaser or CST-100.  The objective of this experiment would be to see if such things can be done and get an idea of what the costs and benefits from the technology and methodology would be.

What catches my idea about this idea is that it could easily be the first genuinely commercial space project with little or no government involvement.
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« Reply #17 on: 06/15/2012 11:43 AM »

At the 19:40 mark. Logsden says there were a number of problems as the Dragon made its approach to the ISS. Besides the LIDAR, what other problems were there?

Not sure but, remember many NASA flights have had their fair share of problems that were fixed or lived with, one famous flight being John Glenn's mission in Friendship 7.
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« Reply #18 on: 06/15/2012 08:09 PM »

They're using steam now?  I'd better watch the video...
You burn hydrogen and oxygen, you get steam.

... which explains all that white stuff shooting out from under the rocket...

Interesting thread comments about AJE.  Stands to reason that AJA reports the "news" with a different perspective.

Backing up a bit to the OP.  I didn't get the sense from the video that they were saying that the US effort is stagnating.
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« Reply #19 on: 06/16/2012 03:02 AM »

They're using steam now?  I'd better watch the video...
You burn hydrogen and oxygen, you get steam.

... which explains all that white stuff shooting out from under the rocket...

Interesting thread comments about AJE.  Stands to reason that AJA reports the "news" with a different perspective.

Backing up a bit to the OP.  I didn't get the sense from the video that they were saying that the US effort is stagnating.

I don't think the title of the video was "saying" anything.  Its just a questioning of NASA and the state of the Spaceflight program in the U.S.
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« Reply #20 on: 06/16/2012 01:27 PM »

They're using steam now?  I'd better watch the video...
You burn hydrogen and oxygen, you get steam.

... which explains all that white stuff shooting out from under the rocket...

Interesting thread comments about AJE.  Stands to reason that AJA reports the "news" with a different perspective.

Backing up a bit to the OP.  I didn't get the sense from the video that they were saying that the US effort is stagnating.

I don't think the title of the video was "saying" anything.  Its just a questioning of NASA and the state of the Spaceflight program in the U.S.

To clarify a bit:  Backing up to the OP, and the title of the OP.
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« Reply #21 on: 06/16/2012 10:25 PM »

Number of 2012 orbital flights to date by nation/region, based on launch vehicle manufacture.

China: 10 (1 crewed)
Russia/Ukraine: 10 (1 crewed)
U.S.A.:  6
Europe:  3
Japan:  1
India:  1
Iran:  1 [corrected]
North Korea:  1 failed attempt

 - Ed Kyle
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« Reply #22 on: 06/17/2012 02:07 PM »

Number of 2012 orbital flights to date by nation/region, based on launch vehicle manufacture.

China: 10 (1 crewed)
Russia/Ukraine: 10 (1 crewed)
U.S.A.:  6
Europe:  3
Japan:  1
India:  1
Iraq:  1
North Korea:  1 failed attempt

And John: 0

Perspective and all, don't ya know...
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« Reply #23 on: 06/17/2012 02:11 PM »

Number of 2012 orbital flights to date by nation/region, based on launch vehicle manufacture.

China: 10 (1 crewed)
Russia/Ukraine: 10 (1 crewed)
U.S.A.:  6
Europe:  3
Japan:  1
India:  1
Iraq:  1
North Korea:  1 failed attempt

 - Ed Kyle

Iran, not Iraq. ;)
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« Reply #24 on: 06/17/2012 06:06 PM »

Iran, not Iraq. ;)

Oh boy.  Thanks!  I've corrected my original post.

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