CZ-3B - Chinasat (Zhongxing) 2A - May 26, 2012

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« Reply #30 on: 05/26/2012 05:09 PM »

http://www.chinanews.com/gn/2012/05-27/3917841.shtml
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« Reply #31 on: 05/26/2012 05:19 PM »

Interesting that the Chinese sources are using the literal latin letter 'A' this time:
"[Zhong][Xing]2A" - normally Chinese satellites whose English translations
are given as, e.g.  "FY-3B" are really "FY-3 02 xing" or something in Chinese.
Wonder if that is a real nomenclature shift or reflects that this time the name
is not the real one (i.e. it's really  'Shentong er hao weixing' and the ZX is a cover
name)?  Yes, I'm really stretching into Kremlinology here...
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« Reply #32 on: 05/26/2012 05:23 PM »

Interesting that the Chinese sources are using the literal latin letter 'A' this time:
"[Zhong][Xing]2A" - normally Chinese satellites whose English translations
are given as, e.g.  "FY-3B" are really "FY-3 02 xing" or something in Chinese.
Wonder if that is a real nomenclature shift or reflects that this time the name
is not the real one (i.e. it's really  'Shentong er hao weixing' and the ZX is a cover
name)?  Yes, I'm really stretching into Kremlinology here...


Could be, but remember there's Chinasat-6B in 2007....
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« Reply #33 on: 05/26/2012 05:27 PM »

CZ-3B or CZ-3B/E?
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« Reply #34 on: 05/26/2012 05:28 PM »

Interesting that the Chinese sources are using the literal latin letter 'A' this time:
"[Zhong][Xing]2A" - normally Chinese satellites whose English translations
are given as, e.g.  "FY-3B" are really "FY-3 02 xing" or something in Chinese.
Wonder if that is a real nomenclature shift or reflects that this time the name
is not the real one (i.e. it's really  'Shentong er hao weixing' and the ZX is a cover
name)?  Yes, I'm really stretching into Kremlinology here...


Could be, but remember there's Chinasat-6B in 2007....

Ah, yes. I think that was " zhongxing liu B weixing" if my notes are correct -
the 6 was in Chinese but the B in Latin. So maybe it just depends on whoever is writing the press release and how much exposure to English documentation they've had...
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« Reply #35 on: 05/26/2012 05:29 PM »

CZ-3B or CZ-3B/E?

The CALT announcement says that the rocket is 457 tonnes,
56.54m tall, and has 5400 kg GTO capacity. I think these are the right values
for 3B/E rather than 3B, is that correct?
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« Reply #36 on: 05/26/2012 05:31 PM »

CZ-3B or CZ-3B/E?

The CALT announcement says that the rocket is 457 tonnes,
56.54m tall, and has 5400 kg GTO capacity. I think these are the right values
for 3B/E rather than 3B, is that correct?

Yes, that is correct Jonathan.
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« Reply #38 on: 05/26/2012 05:43 PM »

 Another question - who owns these satellites? Does the Zhongxing name imply that they are operated by China Satcom (Zhongguo weixingtongxin jituangongsi) on behalf
of the military, or that's just a cover and these satellites are owned by some part of the PLA?

And another - "Shen Tong" is presumably an abbreviation for "Shen(something) Tongxin",
where Tongxin means communications.... can our Chinese speakers help here?
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« Reply #39 on: 05/26/2012 05:48 PM »

Another question - who owns these satellites? Does the Zhongxing name imply that they are operated by China Satcom (Zhongguo weixingtongxin jituangongsi) on behalf
of the military, or that's just a cover and these satellites are owned by some part of the PLA?

Shentong are operated by the PLA. I think that in this case the Zhongxing designation is just a cover.
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Another question - who owns these satellites? Does the Zhongxing name imply that they are operated by China Satcom (Zhongguo weixingtongxin jituangongsi) on behalf
of the military, or that's just a cover and these satellites are owned by some part of the PLA?

And another - "Shen Tong" is presumably an abbreviation for "Shen(something) Tongxin",
where Tongxin means communications.... can our Chinese speakers help here?

Shentong (神通) means "Magical Power"
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« Reply #41 on: 05/26/2012 07:03 PM »

Another question - who owns these satellites? Does the Zhongxing name imply that they are operated by China Satcom (Zhongguo weixingtongxin jituangongsi) on behalf
of the military, or that's just a cover and these satellites are owned by some part of the PLA?

And another - "Shen Tong" is presumably an abbreviation for "Shen(something) Tongxin",
where Tongxin means communications.... can our Chinese speakers help here?

"Shen Tong" (roughly) means "to communicate with the divine" (interestingly "Feng Huo" refers to the beacon, showing it's ability in mobile communications)

IIRC, most Chinese military satellites (and even part of the manned spaceflight program) are controlled by the PLA's General Armaments Department.
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« Reply #42 on: 05/26/2012 07:10 PM »

http://news.xinhuanet.com/2012-05/27/c_123195344.htm
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« Reply #44 on: 05/26/2012 07:16 PM »

USSTRATCOM has catalogued Object A
38352/2012-028A in 207.1 x 35786.9 km x 27.09°
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