Author Topic: Space industry giants Orbital upbeat ahead of Antares debut  (Read 9060 times)


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By the way, it takes a bit of digging (as it's a long transcript, but the overview presentationand the transcript are linked here):
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=81036&p=irol-presentations

Good reads! Some other sites only went with the "delay, pad has problems" angle. There's a lot more to cover.
« Last Edit: 02/22/2012 05:52 PM by Chris Bergin »

Offline Martin FL

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Great read Chris! Easy to forget Orbital are involved in so much hardware.

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Great Article Chris!


So it looks like July eh? Interesting.
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Very reliable company. Good to see a fair and interesting article on them!

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Very reliable company. Good to see a fair and interesting article on them!

Three words.  Taurus success rate

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Thanks guys.

Very reliable company. Good to see a fair and interesting article on them!

Yeah, for the amount of things they do, they are highly successful. It's funny how many times we start writing up a launch article and the satellite is one from Orbital.

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Very reliable company. Good to see a fair and interesting article on them!

Three words.  Taurus success rate

Tried to google what the success rate was, but no dice.  I know about the failures of OCO and GLORY.  But what kind of success rate are we looking at here in % terms?  And is that better or worse than average?

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Well let's just hope this "new" launcher is a winner with a better success rate.  Do expect problems, but we do need a winner.
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Re: Space industry giants Orbital upbeat ahead of Antares debut
« Reply #10 on: 02/22/2012 10:43 PM »
Nothing about payloads fairings in the article?

I guess don't want to prod them in a sore spot but I would like assurances about the fairing on the Antares.

I like how they have lots of tanks and lots of engines all stacked up and ready to fly as soon as they can. That story seems to be familiar.  8)

Great article Chris really enjoyed it.

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Re: Space industry giants Orbital upbeat ahead of Antares debut
« Reply #11 on: 02/22/2012 10:59 PM »
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Wouldn't be a passing grade in most college courses.  Cant imagine the space industry being any more forgiving.  But this Antares is a new launcher so they have a chance to start from scratch here.  I don't understand the lack of scrutiny of Orbital though.  Both they and SpX have COTS/CRS contracts but everyone criticizes SpaceX.  In reality, SpaceX launched 2 years ago and Orbital is still yet to launch this rocket.

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Re: Space industry giants Orbital upbeat ahead of Antares debut
« Reply #12 on: 02/22/2012 11:03 PM »
I'm really glad they are upbeat, after putting $700 million of taxpayer hardware into the ocean and getting paid ~$125 million to do it (on top of getting paid to build the hardware they put into the ocean, *and* getting paid to build the replacement hardware after they did it).

Maybe they will do more then 3 non-flight-like tests on the payload fairing frangible joints for Antares (3 tests of a pyrotechnic device = 36% reliability on a 95% confidence interval)... Or maybe they will claim "flight worthy" (not qualified..."worthy") heritage to tests done 15 years ago and not do any tests at all.  Maybe they will ignore the frangible joint vendors recommendation that additional qualification tests be performed... Or maybe they won't.  Who knows. 
« Last Edit: 02/22/2012 11:05 PM by marsman2020 »

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Re: Space industry giants Orbital upbeat ahead of Antares debut
« Reply #13 on: 02/23/2012 12:06 AM »
I don't understand the lack of scrutiny of Orbital though.  Both they and SpX have COTS/CRS contracts but everyone criticizes SpaceX.  In reality, SpaceX launched 2 years ago and Orbital is still yet to launch this rocket.

I think it's because Orbital stays quiet in the media, whereas SpaceX is always announcing grandiose new plans. People also pay more attention to SpaceX because they're a more exciting company - their paramount goal is to make a difference in space, not to make the maximum profit. All this attention naturally leads to more criticism, such as the "Smoke and Fire" ad that was directed exclusively at SpaceX.

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Re: Space industry giants Orbital upbeat ahead of Antares debut
« Reply #14 on: 02/23/2012 12:07 AM »
Methinks marsman'ty doth protest too much.  (had to keep it in iambic pentameter)
If I like something on NSF, it's probably because I know it to be accurate.  Every once in a while, it's just something I agree with.  Facts generally receive the former.

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Re: Space industry giants Orbital upbeat ahead of Antares debut
« Reply #15 on: 02/23/2012 12:08 AM »
The impetuous young are almost always more exciting than the wizened.
I hear those things are awfully loud. It glides as softly as a cloud. What's it called? Monowhale!

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Nothing about payloads fairings in the article?

I guess don't want to prod them in a sore spot but I would like assurances about the fairing on the Antares.

I like how they have lots of tanks and lots of engines all stacked up and ready to fly as soon as they can. That story seems to be familiar.  8)

Great article Chris really enjoyed it.

Wouldn't of fitted the flow of the article. I did find a way to note the two well known fails, but no point lingering on that. The article was a "these lot get put into the nu-space folder, but they are established space. Look, they do a lot of things" angle.

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Re: Space industry giants Orbital upbeat ahead of Antares debut
« Reply #17 on: 02/23/2012 01:26 AM »
Don't worry Chris I'm not trying to accuse you of writing a fluff piece.

I thought it was very fair all around and Orbital deserve the coverage.

They really do seem to be working hard to redeem themselves and want to distance themselves from the name "Taurus"  :D


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Re: Space industry giants Orbital upbeat ahead of Antares debut
« Reply #18 on: 02/23/2012 03:26 AM »
Great read! I also didn't know they were that busy. I knew they also made satellites but sounding rockets and that many missions....interesting and cool.

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Orbital must have liked it as they retweeted it.

(I'm no major fan of twitter, but when NASA or a company retweet an article we've written on them, it's a big deal :))

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