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Offline apace

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Orbits of space stations and crew vehicles
« on: 11/23/2011 01:58 PM »

For reference:
Salyut 1: Apogee 222km, Inclination: 51.6
Salyut 4: Apogee 270km, Inclination: 51.6
Mir: Apogee 374km, Inclination: 51.6
Skylab: Apogee 442km, Inclination: 50.0
Tiangong 1: Apogee 362km, Inclination: 42.0
ISS: Apogee 398km, Inclination: 51.6

I know, inclination is chosen by the launch pads which needs to reach the orbital stations. But about the height of the orbit I'm a little bit confused. Are the orbits chosen by safety, by mission design or the visiting vehicles? Which heights current and future vehicles can reach?

Is there any possibility, that the chinese decide to go with Tiangong 2 or 3 to much higher orbit? Can this orbits be reached by a Shenzou spacecraft?

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Re: Orbits of space stations and crew vehicles
« Reply #1 on: 11/23/2011 02:16 PM »
I never understood in the first place why was Skylab orbiting so high...  ???
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Re: Orbits of space stations and crew vehicles
« Reply #2 on: 11/23/2011 02:33 PM »
I never understood in the first place why was Skylab orbiting so high...  ???

It had no propulsion, so it couldn't reboost.
Also, it set up a repeating orbit so that it would pass over the same points on earth every few days

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Re: Orbits of space stations and crew vehicles
« Reply #3 on: 11/23/2011 02:34 PM »

. Are the orbits chosen by safety, by mission design or the visiting vehicles?


yes, yes and yes

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Re: Orbits of space stations and crew vehicles
« Reply #4 on: 11/23/2011 03:02 PM »

. Are the orbits chosen by safety, by mission design or the visiting vehicles?


yes, yes and yes

Thanks. Can I find somewhere information about the max orbits a visiting vehicle can reach?

For Space Shuttle I have: 190 to 960km
For Soyuz TMA I have: up to 460km
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Re: Orbits of space stations and crew vehicles
« Reply #5 on: 11/23/2011 03:57 PM »
[...]
Thanks. Can I find somewhere information about the max orbits a visiting vehicle can reach?

For Space Shuttle I have: 190 to 960km
For Soyuz TMA I have: up to 460km

960 KM? I think that is a wrongly assumed number. It would be a highly elliptical orbit, then - and only in theory.
Shuttles usually stayed far under 500 km. The highest orbit a shuttle ever flew was around 575 km when deploying Hubble in its orbit. And that was an elliptical orbit, too.
(please correct me if I'm wrong..)
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Re: Orbits of space stations and crew vehicles
« Reply #6 on: 11/23/2011 06:23 PM »
[...]
Thanks. Can I find somewhere information about the max orbits a visiting vehicle can reach?

For Space Shuttle I have: 190 to 960km
For Soyuz TMA I have: up to 460km

960 KM? I think that is a wrongly assumed number. It would be a highly elliptical orbit, then - and only in theory.
Shuttles usually stayed far under 500 km. The highest orbit a shuttle ever flew was around 575 km when deploying Hubble in its orbit. And that was an elliptical orbit, too.
(please correct me if I'm wrong..)


Right, shuttle is around 600 km, Soyuz 425 km.
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Re: Orbits of space stations and crew vehicles
« Reply #7 on: 11/23/2011 08:26 PM »
I never understood in the first place why was Skylab orbiting so high...  ???

It had no propulsion, so it couldn't reboost.
Also, it set up a repeating orbit so that it would pass over the same points on earth every few days
Didn't Skylab have TACS ( thruster attitude control system )?

http://mix.msfc.nasa.gov/abstracts.php?p=1300

Was it out of fuel, not enough fuel left, or never had enough for rebust ?
 

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Re: Orbits of space stations and crew vehicles
« Reply #8 on: 11/23/2011 08:43 PM »
I never understood in the first place why was Skylab orbiting so high...  ???

It had no propulsion, so it couldn't reboost.
Also, it set up a repeating orbit so that it would pass over the same points on earth every few days
Didn't Skylab have TACS ( thruster attitude control system )?

http://mix.msfc.nasa.gov/abstracts.php?p=1300

Was it out of fuel, not enough fuel left, or never had enough for rebust ?
 

Keyword - attitude, not altitude.

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Re: Orbits of space stations and crew vehicles
« Reply #9 on: 11/24/2011 12:26 AM »
Skylab was reboosted by the departing Apollo CSM wasn't it?

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Re: Orbits of space stations and crew vehicles
« Reply #10 on: 11/24/2011 12:48 AM »
Skylab was reboosted by the departing Apollo CSM wasn't it?

Only the orbit phasing was adjusted

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