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Re: Morpheus Lander Testing at JSC and KSC - Update Thread
« Reply #15 on: 06/02/2011 03:30 AM »
Here is the video of the fifth test.  Morpheus has now learnt how to hover.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMSyr4Y3Vsc&feature=feedu



I wonder if the next test will still be 7th June or will they be ordered to move to White Sands?

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Re: Morpheus Lander Testing at JSC and KSC - Update Thread
« Reply #16 on: 06/02/2011 11:01 AM »
Well, at least they've got her flying straight this time! :D That TVC issue on the previous test was pretty hair-raising! Still, it's good to see that NASA still does good R&D work (so long as the project goes under the radar for a while).


@ A_M,

I don't see any reason to move the project to White Sands unless they're planning to move to untethered flight.
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Re: Morpheus Lander Testing at JSC and KSC - Update Thread
« Reply #17 on: 06/02/2011 07:00 PM »
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@ A_M,

I don't see any reason to move the project to White Sands unless they're planning to move to untethered flight.

It is difficult to test a vehicle's cross country ability whilst tethered to a crane so there are probably going to be some untethered flights.

That should save the grass at JSC.

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Re: Morpheus Lander Testing at JSC and KSC - Update Thread
« Reply #18 on: 06/02/2011 07:43 PM »
They're definitely getting a lot better with time.  Unlike their first several flights this one wouldn't have crashed had it been untethered.  Still more wobbly than ideal, but I'm sure their GN&C team will eventually get it dialed in.  Looking forward to seeing the free-flights.

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Re: Morpheus Lander Testing at JSC and KSC - Update Thread
« Reply #19 on: 06/04/2011 01:43 PM »
As a fanboy, it is great to see progress on anything that looks like a moon lander :)

When can we expect to see something derived from this on a real mission?

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Re: Morpheus Lander Testing at JSC and KSC - Update Thread
« Reply #20 on: 06/04/2011 03:55 PM »
When can we expect to see something derived from this on a real mission?

When someone finds (and funds) a real mission to send it on
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Re: Morpheus Lander Testing at JSC and KSC - Update Thread
« Reply #21 on: 06/04/2011 04:45 PM »
When can we expect to see something derived from this on a real mission?

When someone finds (and funds) a real mission to send it on

That's what I expected :P

Wos just wondering if there had been any movement on any of the proposals, or if this progress implied anything towards them.

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Re: Morpheus Lander Testing at JSC and KSC - Update Thread
« Reply #22 on: 06/04/2011 04:58 PM »
As a fanboy, it is great to see progress on anything that looks like a moon lander :)

When can we expect to see something derived from this on a real mission?

It is part of Project M, same with Robonaut.  If they get approval, they may have a full mission late next year or the year after.
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Re: Morpheus Lander Testing at JSC and KSC - Update Thread
« Reply #23 on: 06/04/2011 05:27 PM »
It looks like if they can get funding a lander mission should come of this.
I wonder will the humanoid robot be the only robot on the lander or will it also carry a more conventional wheeled rover.


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Re: Morpheus Lander Testing at JSC and KSC - Update Thread
« Reply #24 on: 06/04/2011 08:37 PM »
As a fanboy, it is great to see progress on anything that looks like a moon lander :)

When can we expect to see something derived from this on a real mission?

It is part of Project M, same with Robonaut.  If they get approval, they may have a full mission late next year or the year after.

Remember though that funding for flight demonstration missions like this was gutted to help pay for SLS/MPCV.  I'd be really surprised if they were able to get the money they'd need to turn this into an actual flight mission.

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Re: Morpheus Lander Testing at JSC and KSC - Update Thread
« Reply #25 on: 06/04/2011 08:54 PM »
As a fanboy, it is great to see progress on anything that looks like a moon lander :)

When can we expect to see something derived from this on a real mission?

It is part of Project M, same with Robonaut.  If they get approval, they may have a full mission late next year or the year after.

No, Project M is gone. Morpheus is the successor to Project M, not a part of it.
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Re: Morpheus Lander Testing at JSC and KSC - Update Thread
« Reply #26 on: 06/04/2011 10:01 PM »
As a fanboy, it is great to see progress on anything that looks like a moon lander :)

When can we expect to see something derived from this on a real mission?

It is part of Project M, same with Robonaut.  If they get approval, they may have a full mission late next year or the year after.

No, Project M is gone. Morpheus is the successor to Project M, not a part of it.
Then explain Robonaut. Saying Project M is gone, when both parts of it continue active development tells me that it is not as gone as we think.
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Re: Morpheus Lander Testing at JSC and KSC - Update Thread
« Reply #27 on: 06/04/2011 10:04 PM »
As a fanboy, it is great to see progress on anything that looks like a moon lander :)

When can we expect to see something derived from this on a real mission?

It is part of Project M, same with Robonaut.  If they get approval, they may have a full mission late next year or the year after.

No, Project M is gone. Morpheus is the successor to Project M, not a part of it.
Then explain Robonaut.

It's now separate. More to the point, its connection with Project M is recent. Robonaut long predates Project M. I remember walking past its lab in JSC building 9 and seeing it almost ten years ago, back when it still had the Boba Fett helmet and the Segway base.

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Saying Project M is gone, when both parts of it continue active development tells me that it is not as gone as we think.

No, there was a third part, bigger than the other two put together: the part about actually flying the lander to the moon and deploying Robonaut on the surface. That part is dead and gone, and the other two parts are now separate. I have two officemates who worked translunar trajectory and targeting for Project M before it was canceled.
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Re: Morpheus Lander Testing at JSC and KSC - Update Thread
« Reply #28 on: 06/04/2011 10:07 PM »
Remember though that funding for flight demonstration missions like this was gutted to help pay for SLS/MPCV.  I'd be really surprised if they were able to get the money they'd need to turn this into an actual flight mission.

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A two to three year Moon mission, including development, can be paid for by President Obama or his successor.  If the cost is small the delays in SLS whilst the politicians argue will liberate sufficient money.

I suspect that morale in both NASA and the US is currently at rock bottom.  With the proper public relations a mission like this could improve both morales.  Particularly if the mission does something useful when it gets to the moon.

As for for we cannot afford it during this financial crisis argument.  In the 1960s NASA's Moon missions sent two men to the Moon.  With the cut backs it can only afford to send one robot.

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Re: Morpheus Lander Testing at JSC and KSC - Update Thread
« Reply #29 on: 06/05/2011 01:21 AM »
Robonaut 2 existed long before Project M.

Before history was rewritten:

http://web.archive.org/web/20100527102807/http://robonaut.jsc.nasa.gov/future.asp
http://web.archive.org/web/20100527111733/http://robonaut.jsc.nasa.gov/m-whitepaper.asp

Who knows how long that whitepaper link will last.
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