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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1060 on: 12/08/2010 06:06 PM »
Well, that was fun :)

Any further word on the 1st stage?
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1061 on: 12/08/2010 06:34 PM »
My memory is going hazy, but is this the first launch where they didn't have an abort on engine startup and then quickly recycle for the actual launch?

Still congrads to all.
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1062 on: 12/08/2010 06:40 PM »
Boy, is it gonna be interesting comparing the moods present during this press conference compared to the last one.

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1063 on: 12/08/2010 07:03 PM »
Don't expect the usual suspects to change much.  They'll no doubt find some nit to pick; flaming hoses or whatever scorch marks are on Dragon.  Something, anything.
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1064 on: 12/08/2010 07:08 PM »
What success here means:

1. We are a lot more likely to have a continuing HSF program post shuttle.

This is good for everybody. So no sour grapes allowed.

2. It is likely that less waste and graft will be allowed within HSF budgets.

Sorry Orrin.

3. If SpaceX can do it then so can others.

ULA etc time to decide to move to an aggressive posture, possibly with company acquisitions. If you are going to have any offering here, you have to commit yourself at this point and enter this game fully.

4. If anyone else tries they have to do at least as well as SpaceX

They have set the bar to reach.

5. SpaceX - watch out for overconfidence and process failures.

To slow you down, everyone else will want to find a chain of missteps to prove you are depending on "hot house plants".

6. Small new firms (like Altius etc)

Do strategic partnerships with 2-3 "big" firms. Don't bite off more than you can chew. Always underpromise and overdeliver. Try to drive your internal standards higher than your partners. Charge 2x what they want and don't look back.

Work within Musk's shockwave here.

7. Congress: How much of a political target do you want to paint on yourself?

2011 budget based on achievable successes across the board. Repriese Musks air of success or face the consequences. Now!
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1065 on: 12/08/2010 07:37 PM »
All objectives achieved.
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1066 on: 12/08/2010 07:46 PM »
Watching the NASA press conference on this.  Musk seems to be shocked and elated that there were no major problems on this first flight.

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1067 on: 12/08/2010 07:47 PM »
I was referring to questioners at the news conference

I was referring to the panelists, actually.

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1068 on: 12/08/2010 07:49 PM »
Musk says the heat shield performed superbly. He's highly confident it can handle a lunar or martian reentry.
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1069 on: 12/08/2010 07:50 PM »
There's actually a live thread for discussing the actual mission and press conference, this thread is just discussing stuff in general.

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1070 on: 12/08/2010 07:53 PM »
Here is a rough comparison of how much they shortened the nozzle.
Left is Flight 1, on the right Flight 2

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1071 on: 12/08/2010 07:55 PM »
Don't expect the usual suspects to change much.  They'll no doubt find some nit to pick; flaming hoses or whatever scorch marks are on Dragon.  Something, anything.

i d iot

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1072 on: 12/08/2010 08:15 PM »
From live thread:
Repair guy [...] hand cut it.

Marty Anderson, flown in from California to do the job. 

Love to be a fly on the wall at his next performance review.  Manager asks, "Marty, in what way do you think you contributed most to the company's success during this last review period?"

Congratulations to Marty, to everyone involved in the expansion nozzle fix, to Falcon, Dragon, SpaceX, C3PO, and the leadership at NASA that made this a reality.
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1073 on: 12/08/2010 08:26 PM »

Love to be a fly on the wall at his next performance review.  Manager asks, "Marty, in what way do you think you contributed most to the company's success during this last review period?"


Considering he has a real fear of flying, I suspect he already got his review and Christmas Bonus to boot ;)
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1074 on: 12/08/2010 08:47 PM »
That was a pretty amazing picture of the repair... Sitting inside the erected F9 interstage, cutting a nozzle by hand. :D  :o

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1075 on: 12/08/2010 08:51 PM »
I'll just reupload it to this thread, then. The thing looks bigger on the inside.

 An amazing flight, all in all. I am wondering if we can get more information on the black box "Talon or something?" used on the stage - did it seperate from the stage? Came loose during break up?

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1076 on: 12/08/2010 08:53 PM »
Love the blue masking tape, too. But no one at the presser bothered to ask whether he used the Dremel or the SawzAll.
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1077 on: 12/08/2010 08:56 PM »
Love the blue masking tape, too. But no one at the presser bothered to ask whether he used the Dremel or the SawzAll.

It would be entirely inappropriate for a NASA-funded flight to be seen to be endorsing a particular commercial product. ;)
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1078 on: 12/08/2010 08:57 PM »
Love the blue masking tape, too. But no one at the presser bothered to ask whether he used the Dremel or the SawzAll.
He's holding shears! He didn't cut corners, he cut a circumference.
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #1079 on: 12/08/2010 08:58 PM »
I get the feeling Marty will become a space celebrity.
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