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April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« on: 03/28/2006 05:28 AM »
From SLC-8, Vandenberg Air Force Base. Thought I'd start a launch thread for this.
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #1 on: 03/31/2006 09:58 PM »
Here are a couple of links with info on the spacecraft and mission:

http://www.cosmic.ucar.edu/index.html
http://www.orbital.com/SatellitesSpace/LEO/FORMOSAT-3/index.html

Very Orbital-centric launch:  Orbital's MicroStar spacecraft and Minotaur launch vehicle.

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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #2 on: 04/03/2006 10:40 AM »
Orbital seem to be getting some business recently. They did ST-5 also?

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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #3 on: 04/03/2006 04:15 PM »
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Hotol - 3/4/2006  5:40 AMOrbital seem to be getting some business recently. They did ST-5 also?

Only launched it

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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #4 on: 04/09/2006 01:18 PM »
Hi, will NASA TV broadcast this launch live? Or will it be broadcast somewhere else?

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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #5 on: 04/09/2006 01:21 PM »
NASA TV only airs launch coverage programs relative to the agency(IE only if is carrying a NASA payload).

And from prior Minotaur launches, the only coverage of the launch will maybe through Spaceflightnow.com.
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #6 on: 04/09/2006 04:18 PM »
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Cretan126 - 31/3/2006  3:58 PM

Here are a couple of links with info on the spacecraft and mission:

http://www.cosmic.ucar.edu/index.html
http://www.orbital.com/SatellitesSpace/LEO/FORMOSAT-3/index.html

Very Orbital-centric launch:  Orbital's MicroStar spacecraft and Minotaur launch vehicle.

This mission will also be launching a small communications experiment
named "LCT2" (Low-Cost Transceiver) for NASA's Aeronautics Research
Mission Directorate.  LCT2 will remain attached to the Minotaur upper
stage.  See, for example,

http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/lct2.htm

According to:

http://advrangetech.ksc.nasa.gov/Media/10_AFSS_&_LCTT.pdf

LCT2 is a DARPA-FALCON/NASA Wallops project that
involves  LJT and Associates and Johns Hopkins
University

 - Ed Kyle

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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #7 on: 04/09/2006 06:45 PM »
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DaveS - 8/4/2006  3:21 PM

NASA TV only airs launch coverage programs relative to the agency(IE only if is carrying a NASA payload).

Too bad... :(

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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #8 on: 04/13/2006 02:38 PM »
Are NSPO and Orbital Science going to broadcast the launch on the Internet?
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #9 on: 04/13/2006 03:39 PM »
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Spirit - 13/4/2006  4:38 PM

Are NSPO and Orbital Science going to broadcast the launch on the Internet?
Don't think so. You'll have to follow it indirectly with Spaceflightnow's Mission Status Center: http://spaceflightnow.com/minotaur/cosmic/status.html
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #10 on: 04/13/2006 07:26 PM »


RELEASE: 27-06

NASA TO WEBCAST MINOTAUR LAUNCH OF COSMIC SPACECRAFT

The Constellation Observing System for Meteorology, Ionosphere and
Climate, or COSMIC, is set to launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base,
Calif., at 5:10 p.m. PDT (8:10 p.m. EDT) Friday, April 14, aboard a
U.S. Air Force Minotaur rocket. The launch window is three hours in
duration. The launch countdown will be available on the Internet
beginning at 3 p.m. PDT (6 p.m. EDT) and may be accessed at:

http://www.ksc.nasa.gov/video/vafb.ram

A globe-spanning constellation of six weather and climate research
satellites based upon a novel application of a NASA-developed
technology, the network is expected to improve weather forecasts,
monitor climate change and enhance space weather research.

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., designed COSMIC's
primary instrument, a science global positioning system (GPS) space
receiver. JPL will also provide instrument flight software and
technical support. The five-year mission is funded by Taiwan's
National Space Organization and various U.S. agencies, including the
National Science Foundation, Arlington, Va., which leads science
activities. The University Corporation for Atmospheric Research,
Boulder, Colo., manages the mission and designed the satellite array
system.

The low-orbiting satellites will be the first to provide atmospheric
data daily in real time over thousands of points on Earth by
measuring the bending of radio signals from the U.S. GPS as the
signals pass through Earth's atmosphere, a technology known as radio
occultation. The data will be used for research and operational
weather forecasting.


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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #11 on: 04/14/2006 06:43 PM »
Critical point in countdown coming up in about an hour. Thats when officials get the latest weather forecast and it doesn't look to good right now.
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #12 on: 04/14/2006 08:04 PM »
Seems like they're pressing ahead with the launch countdown. Follow along in Spaceflightnow's Mission Status Center until the NASA provided live feed begins: http://spaceflightnow.com/minotaur/cosmic/status.html
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #13 on: 04/14/2006 08:35 PM »
T-minus 4 hours and counting.
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #14 on: 04/14/2006 08:52 PM »
Service structure now moving away from the Minotaur.
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #15 on: 04/14/2006 08:57 PM »
Service structure now in launch position.
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #16 on: 04/14/2006 09:26 PM »
T-minus 3 hours and counting.
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #17 on: 04/14/2006 10:26 PM »
T-minus 2 hours and counting.
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #18 on: 04/14/2006 10:29 PM »
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #19 on: 04/14/2006 10:40 PM »
Remember, anything that is entered into our live threads must be orignal. The source has to be such things as the webcast provided, not other site's coverage (as they are using their own orginal data).

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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #20 on: 04/14/2006 11:04 PM »
I haven't seen a rocket launch in such a bad weather. Anybody knows what are the weather requirements for Minotaur launch?
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #21 on: 04/14/2006 11:08 PM »
No vehicle can launch in precip in the US (all have a flight through precipitation rule). But Atlas 5 in Dec. 04 was pretty close :-) It was raining within a couple miles of the pad (on me!) and they found a hole in the clouds and went.

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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #22 on: 04/14/2006 11:15 PM »
Why US rockets are prohibited to fly in the rain?
Is it a safety measure or they are not capable of flying in such conditions?
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #23 on: 04/14/2006 11:18 PM »
Flight through precipitation is dangerous...a rain drop is like a marble when you are travelling hundreds of miles per hour. But if they find a hole moving towards the pad they will proceed. I've been through two launches like that. The other rules pertain to cloud cover and cloud types.

I don't know what the wx rules are elsewhere (esp. Russia).

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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #24 on: 04/14/2006 11:23 PM »
I think it is primarly because that any flight through precipitation might trigger a lightning which an hit the vehicle and possibly ending the flight.

This is what happened to Apollo 12 which got hit by lightning twice and got the primary electrical system in the CSM knocked offline.
If it hadn't been for the backup electrical system, Apollo 12 would have been forced to abort the launch.
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #25 on: 04/14/2006 11:28 PM »
Lightning rules are even more strict...but precip is its own issue (so even if there is no threat for lightning they still won't go). Lightning rules do not allow any chance for lightning to form within 15 miles of the pad on average. Weather reconaissance planes and field mills determine real time conditions during launch.

Throughout the years they have made the rules stricter, such as with Apollo 12, and more recently in 1987 when an Atlas Centaur was taken down by lightning. Apollo 12 launched into a thunderstorm so they decided not to launch when one was right overheard. But the mileage keeps increasing.

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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #26 on: 04/14/2006 11:31 PM »
Can you see the clouds moving on the background? They are moving pretty fast. I think we may have a window in the sky but I don't know how fast are the winds blowing. That may become an issue.
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #27 on: 04/14/2006 11:48 PM »
They routinely launch in the low marine layer at VAFB, which is thin but low, so it's hard to tell what's what just looking at the screen. Cloud violations are based mainly on thickness, plus cloud type second and debris and precip within as well.

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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #28 on: 04/15/2006 12:14 AM »
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #29 on: 04/15/2006 12:25 AM »
Abort.

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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #30 on: 04/15/2006 12:28 AM »
Something with the first stage.
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #31 on: 04/15/2006 12:30 AM »
Is that a thermal blanket around the first stage?  It appears to have partially separated,
but not cleanly.

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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #32 on: 04/15/2006 12:32 AM »
A sensor of the first stage malfunctioned. The thermal blanket separated succesfuly.
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #33 on: 04/15/2006 12:51 AM »
Approx. 25 minutes needed to recharge the batteries of the space craft. After that they will make another launch attempt.
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #34 on: 04/15/2006 01:39 AM »
Count at T-14 minutes.
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #35 on: 04/15/2006 01:52 AM »
T-1 minute and counting.
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #36 on: 04/15/2006 01:54 AM »
Liftoff.
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RE: April 14: Minotaur - COSMIC
« Reply #37 on: 04/16/2006 06:03 PM »
The full story and some great images have been posted at spaceflightnow:

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/minotaur/cosmic/status.html
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