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Offline Svetoslav

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #520 on: 11/09/2011 08:16 PM »
According to RussianSpaceWeb website which is quoting astronomy.ru, the firings that would send the spacecraft on its way to Mars are going to occur between 03:00 and 05:00 MSK Thursday. This would mean that there are about two hours remaining until the first burn ...

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #521 on: 11/09/2011 08:19 PM »
Are you sure about this? 21:16 МСК was two hours ago...
More like 2 minutes ago, if they indeed meant GMT. But as posted now by Yaroslav, it was an old rumour.

Edit: it seems google translation automatically replaced with GMT, while it should have been MSK.
« Last Edit: 11/09/2011 08:24 PM by Skylab »

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #522 on: 11/09/2011 08:23 PM »
Correct.. But they could still try firing the engines, dependent on the situation... We still wait and listen for word

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #523 on: 11/09/2011 09:09 PM »
Is this valid?

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@b0yle Alan Boyle
Russians due to try raising #PhobosGrunt orbit slightly at 12:16 pm ET to test software workaround. H/T to Jim Oberg

5 hours ago
« Last Edit: 11/09/2011 09:27 PM by Chris Bergin »

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #524 on: 11/09/2011 09:25 PM »
Is this valid?

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@b0yle Alan Boyle
Russians due to try raising #PhobosGrunt orbit slightly at 12:16 pm ET to test software workaround. H/T to Jim Oberg

5 hours ago

Seems like it was a garbled translation of an ambiguously-worded report, so disregard.

« Last Edit: 11/09/2011 09:28 PM by Chris Bergin »

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #525 on: 11/09/2011 09:32 PM »
Is this valid?

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@b0yle Alan Boyle
Russians due to try raising #PhobosGrunt orbit slightly at 12:16 pm ET to test software workaround. H/T to Jim Oberg

5 hours ago

Seems like it was a garbled translation of an ambiguously-worded report, so disregard.
Okay Jim, just asking because of the fluidity of all this.

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #526 on: 11/09/2011 09:38 PM »
'Fluidity' may imply more substance then we really have.

How about 'gaseousness'?

Will there be a Mars orbit insertion burn attempt tonight, or not?

The IKI trajectory site has not been updated, and no invitation seems to have gone out to South American observers.

ADD: And the NK site appears to be still down -- do we know why?
http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/news.shtml



« Last Edit: 11/09/2011 09:41 PM by JimO »

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #527 on: 11/09/2011 09:42 PM »
We really don't know yes, but if there is a MOI tonight, it will start after 20 mins...

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #528 on: 11/09/2011 10:17 PM »
Thanks everyone for the updates, I was talking with a friend and we are hoping that soon controllers will be able to see something like this: http://imageshack.us/f/831/thumbsupec.jpg/  :)

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #529 on: 11/09/2011 10:20 PM »
We really don't know yes, but if there is a MOI tonight, it will start after 20 mins...
MOI will not be done tonight. Rather it is the Trans Martian Injection(TMI) burn that remains to be executed. MOI is at Mars arrival.
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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #530 on: 11/09/2011 10:21 PM »
Sorry, silly mistake.

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #531 on: 11/09/2011 10:23 PM »
Just saw our russian friend again. Exactly were it was predicted on the tracking site.
Today it was a lonely star crossing the sky on the same direction (NE) and speed as it was yesterday.

The difference is that the clouds were a lot friendly today. We managed to see the probe for over a minute.

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #532 on: 11/09/2011 10:28 PM »
The probe is once again over Baikonur, however there is no official info, both the Balancer and Novosti Kosmonavtiki boards are overloaded and the only message board where there were actual people from NPO writing is silent. Any real info if ground stations outside of Russia had intercepted any signals at all from the craft?

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Yeah, NK is down for sure. The demand will be the problem as sites like this (very much like ours) - which include large databases (forums) - will go down unless you've got some very meaty servers....which cost a lot of money, which is the main reason we have L2.

If it wasn't for our L2 subscribers, we wouldn't have a site, certainly not one which can cope with high demand.

I'm making a point about that as less than 1 percent of our actual forum members are L2 members, which is very poor considering how good L2 is.

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #534 on: 11/09/2011 10:44 PM »
Thanks everyone for the updates, I was talking with a friend and we are hoping that soon controllers will be able to see something like this: http://imageshack.us/f/831/thumbsupec.jpg/  :)
Yeah, this is the standard software interface for interplanetary Russian sample return missions. Hope they get the first icon, not the second:
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@JimO:

With respect to the NASA press release where you're quoted that Phobos-Grunt would be the "most dangerous spacecraft to hit Earth", wouldn't Kosmos 954 take that honor? ;)

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #536 on: 11/09/2011 11:16 PM »
Nothing new on news broadcast at 'Rossia24'... seems nothing happened.

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I'm making a point about that as less than 1 percent of our actual forum members are L2 members, which is very poor considering how good L2 is.

Members vs. Active Members are a completely different thing. In any web forum,  there are many people who just register once, login, and then never come back - or forget the details and register again.

Is the L2 subscription rate any closer to 1% of active members?

And oh boy, do we have some good active members here. This thread wouldn't be as good as it is without JimO and others. I only wish the Russians would also post here, even with bad English!

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #538 on: 11/09/2011 11:33 PM »
It's almost certain that whatever they have found about the yesterday's failure, there won't be a press release tonight. Looks like we will have to wait until tomorrow morning. It's disappointing. I go to bed, see you tomorrow.

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #539 on: 11/09/2011 11:53 PM »
I'm making a point about that as less than 1 percent of our actual forum members are L2 members, which is very poor considering how good L2 is.

Well, Chris, the gentle nudge worked and reminded me to re-up my L2 membership!  After spending (too) much of today following the Phobos-Grunt saga, I couldn't not do it.

Cheers,

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