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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #120 on: 11/07/2011 08:48 PM »
Dear people who spell Fobos-Grunt as Phobos-Grunt. YOU are the worst! Leave it as Fobos-Grunt or translate it into Phobos-Soil, Phobos-Ground, Phobos-Dirt, .......
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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #121 on: 11/07/2011 09:07 PM »
Dear people who spell Fobos-Grunt as Phobos-Grunt. YOU are the worst! Leave it as Fobos-Grunt or translate it into Phobos-Soil, Phobos-Ground, Phobos-Dirt, .......

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #123 on: 11/07/2011 09:17 PM »
I always think the Falcon 9 looks a lot like Zenit. Go Phobos-Grunt!
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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #124 on: 11/07/2011 09:26 PM »
I always think the Falcon 9 looks a lot like Zenit. Go Phobos-Grunt!
I like both of them - kerolox with venting and ice shaking off the stages and no SRM to spoil the engine jets view.
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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #125 on: 11/07/2011 09:34 PM »
I had not realized how "clean" a Zenit pad until I watched the great roll-out video.

As other have mentioned, looks like Zenit and its pad and operations was a big inspiration for SpaceX.

Best of luck, Phobos-Grunt!
« Last Edit: 11/07/2011 09:34 PM by Lars_J »

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #126 on: 11/07/2011 09:37 PM »
no SRM to spoil the engine jets view.

This.

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #127 on: 11/07/2011 10:20 PM »
Dear people who spell Fobos-Grunt as Phobos-Grunt. YOU are the worst! Leave it as Fobos-Grunt or translate it into Phobos-Soil, Phobos-Ground, Phobos-Dirt, .......

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #128 on: 11/07/2011 11:02 PM »
Someone's moved this thread already, but without turning it into a live thread? Shakes head ;)
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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #129 on: 11/07/2011 11:06 PM »
When was the last Mars mission that was not launched on a rocket using Glushko-designed engines in the 1st stage?

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #130 on: 11/07/2011 11:38 PM »
2007, Phoenix?
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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #131 on: 11/08/2011 12:55 AM »
Fingers crossed for this one, probably the most exciting Mars mission with real hardware! Hey Chris, would a countdown clock be feasible on here? :D
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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #132 on: 11/08/2011 01:23 AM »
Dear people who spell Fobos-Grunt as Phobos-Grunt. YOU are the worst! Leave it as Fobos-Grunt or translate it into Phobos-Soil, Phobos-Ground, Phobos-Dirt, .......

And if saying the name out loud, please pronounce 'u' in "Grunt" as the "oo" in "moon": it sounds so much better and is more faithful to the Russian pronunciation.

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #133 on: 11/08/2011 01:32 AM »
Dear people who spell Fobos-Grunt as Phobos-Grunt. YOU are the worst! Leave it as Fobos-Grunt or translate it into Phobos-Soil, Phobos-Ground, Phobos-Dirt, .......

And if saying the name out loud, please pronounce 'u' in "Grunt" as the "oo" in "moon": it sounds so much better and is more faithful to the Russian pronunciation.
For those who don't know Russian, the Latin pronunciation will suffice. ;)

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #134 on: 11/08/2011 01:35 AM »
Fingers crossed for this one, probably the most exciting Mars mission with real hardware! Hey Chris, would a countdown clock be feasible on here? :D

Were there exciting missions with fake hardware or other missions that were boring with real hardware?

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #135 on: 11/08/2011 01:37 AM »
Fingers crossed for this one, probably the most exciting Mars mission with real hardware! Hey Chris, would a countdown clock be feasible on here? :D

Were there exciting missions with fake hardware or other missions that were boring with real hardware?
No Jim, just lots of paper ones. This one is groundbreaking - no pun intended (or will be if everything goes to plan).

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #136 on: 11/08/2011 01:41 AM »
Do you have a list of the prefered video?

I see they are breaking Russian custom of not launching at 6.:30AM.

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #137 on: 11/08/2011 01:53 AM »
Fingers crossed for this one, probably the most exciting Mars mission with real hardware! Hey Chris, would a countdown clock be feasible on here? :D

Were there exciting missions with fake hardware or other missions that were boring with real hardware?
No Jim, just lots of paper ones. This one is groundbreaking - no pun intended (or will be if everything goes to plan).
Um, MSL is paper? Unexciting? It's nuclear powered, has lasers to vaporize rock, is the size and mass of a Mini Cooper, and it will descend from a rocket-pack to the Martian surface.

We have a rover operating right now on Mars, plus unprecedented resolution orbital images returned from MRO, plus the trip to the icy north by Phoenix relatively recently. There's really no satisfying you people, is there?
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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #138 on: 11/08/2011 01:55 AM »
Um, MSL is paper? Unexciting? It's nuclear powered, has lasers to vaporize rock, is the size and mass of a Mini Cooper, and it will descend from a rocket-pack to the Martian surface.

Well...let's hope that's how it goes anyway!

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Re: LIVE: Zenit-2SB launch with Phobos-Grunt - November 8, 2011
« Reply #139 on: 11/08/2011 01:57 AM »
No Jim, just lots of paper ones. This one is groundbreaking - no pun intended (or will be if everything goes to plan).
Um, MSL is paper? Unexciting? It's nuclear powered, has lasers to vaporize rock, is the size and mass of a Mini Cooper, and it will descend from a rocket-pack to the Martian surface.

We have a rover operating right now on Mars, plus unprecedented resolution orbital images returned from MRO, plus the trip to the icy north by Phoenix relatively recently. There's really no satisfying you people, is there?
No, MSL is a great mission too, but this will/would be the first sample return mission. There's a lot to be said for the value of that. And heck, the results get shared, so I'm happy to see Russia return to the interplanetary stage!

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