Author Topic: Iranian Space  (Read 313842 times)

Offline Soheil

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 312
  • O_o
  • Tehran, I.R.IRAN
  • Liked: 27
  • Likes Given: 12
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #540 on: 07/04/2013 12:52 PM »
@Norbert Brügge bro!  ;D

Update your informations ...

SOHEIL © 2013
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Offline Soheil

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 312
  • O_o
  • Tehran, I.R.IRAN
  • Liked: 27
  • Likes Given: 12
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #541 on: 07/04/2013 01:06 PM »
Thanks, Soheil! Is it possible to have the last poster in English (don't worry, I'll don't ask for one in Portuguese!!!!)?

which part !?  ::)
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Offline Satori

  • Moderator
  • Global Moderator
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11181
  • Braga - Portugal
    • Em Órbita
  • Liked: 134
  • Likes Given: 84
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #542 on: 07/04/2013 01:16 PM »
Thanks, Soheil! Is it possible to have the last poster in English (don't worry, I'll don't ask for one in Portuguese!!!!)?

which part !?  ::)

Both tables on the poster. Thanks.

Offline Soheil

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 312
  • O_o
  • Tehran, I.R.IRAN
  • Liked: 27
  • Likes Given: 12
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #543 on: 07/04/2013 01:19 PM »
Thanks, Soheil! Is it possible to have the last poster in English (don't worry, I'll don't ask for one in Portuguese!!!!)?

which part !?  ::)

Both tables on the poster. Thanks.

Bro ! already translated !!! ;D
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Offline Soheil

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 312
  • O_o
  • Tehran, I.R.IRAN
  • Liked: 27
  • Likes Given: 12
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #544 on: 07/04/2013 03:06 PM »
no change !!!  ???
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Offline Satori

  • Moderator
  • Global Moderator
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11181
  • Braga - Portugal
    • Em Órbita
  • Liked: 134
  • Likes Given: 84
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #545 on: 07/04/2013 06:32 PM »
Thanks, Soheil! Is it possible to have the last poster in English (don't worry, I'll don't ask for one in Portuguese!!!!)?

which part !?  ::)

Both tables on the poster. Thanks.

Bro ! already translated !!! ;D

Ups! Didn't noticed that... bro!

Offline Soheil

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 312
  • O_o
  • Tehran, I.R.IRAN
  • Liked: 27
  • Likes Given: 12
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #546 on: 07/05/2013 10:18 AM »
 :o
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Offline mahdavi3d

  • Member
  • Posts: 3
  • I.R.IRAN
    • fazairan
  • Liked: 0
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #547 on: 07/05/2013 04:15 PM »
hmmm... upper stage? but this configuration seems a little odd! why 2 small tandem stages?

Offline Soheil

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 312
  • O_o
  • Tehran, I.R.IRAN
  • Liked: 27
  • Likes Given: 12
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #548 on: 07/05/2013 04:25 PM »
hmmm... upper stage? but this configuration seems a little odd! why 2 small tandem stages?

4 stages for putting a 100 kg satellite into 500 km orbit !!! ;D
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Offline Skyrocket

  • Extreme Veteran
  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1671
  • Frankfurt am Main, Germany
  • Liked: 113
  • Likes Given: 12
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #549 on: 07/05/2013 04:30 PM »
hmmm... upper stage? but this configuration seems a little odd! why 2 small tandem stages?

To provide perigee and apogee kicks?

Something like the US Burner-2A

Where do the sketches come from?
« Last Edit: 07/05/2013 04:31 PM by Skyrocket »

Offline Soheil

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 312
  • O_o
  • Tehran, I.R.IRAN
  • Liked: 27
  • Likes Given: 12
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #550 on: 07/05/2013 04:33 PM »
Where do the sketches come from?

which one ?
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Offline Skyrocket

  • Extreme Veteran
  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1671
  • Frankfurt am Main, Germany
  • Liked: 113
  • Likes Given: 12
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #551 on: 07/05/2013 04:37 PM »
Where do the sketches come from?

which one ?

The one with the tandem solid motor upperstages.

Offline Soheil

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 312
  • O_o
  • Tehran, I.R.IRAN
  • Liked: 27
  • Likes Given: 12
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #552 on: 07/05/2013 04:43 PM »
Where do the sketches come from?

which one ?

The one with the tandem solid motor upperstages.

Norbert Brügge !

He doesn't want to accept that Simorgh & Unha 2/3 are different rockets ...

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Offline Skyrocket

  • Extreme Veteran
  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1671
  • Frankfurt am Main, Germany
  • Liked: 113
  • Likes Given: 12
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #553 on: 07/05/2013 05:08 PM »
I agree, Norbert Brügge's page is often very speculative (or even downright wrong).

Offline Soheil

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 312
  • O_o
  • Tehran, I.R.IRAN
  • Liked: 27
  • Likes Given: 12
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #554 on: 07/05/2013 05:25 PM »
I agree, Norbert Brügge's page is often very speculative (or even downright wrong).

I respect his gallery but ...

http://www.b14643.de/Spacerockets_1/Rest_World/Simorgh-IRILV/Description/Frame.htm

Quote
The presented model of Iran's new space launch vehicle Simorgh IRILV is certainly a joke
It is suggested that the first stage of the Simorgh has a diameter of 2.00 meters.
The presented engine with the thrust frame but suggests a diameter of 2.40 m.

Do you accept this pictures :
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Offline Steven Pietrobon

  • Member
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4417
  • Adelaide, Australia
    • Steven Pietrobon's Space Archive
  • Liked: 614
  • Likes Given: 59
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #555 on: 07/06/2013 06:57 AM »
I just noticed the serial numbers on the "Missile Row" Simorgh and Safir:

Safir: GBS.0095
Simorgh: DMS00-00-00

From what Soheil has posted previously, Omid 2 was launched by GBS.0092. The other serial numbers we have seen are:

*25 Feb 07  HUS.0001  Kavesh?
*17 Aug 08  OES.0001  Omid
  2 Feb 09  GBS.0092  Omid 2
 15 Jun 11  UIS.0001  Rasad 1
  3 Feb 12  ERS.2002  Navid-e-Elm-o-Sanat
*23 May 12? ?         Fajr
*22 Sep 12? ?         Amir Kabir-I
*17 Feb 13? ?         SharifSat


All the designations have an "S." in them, but the other parts in the serial seem to have no rhyme or reason. For the letters, perhaps its some code, like HUNTSVILEX -> 123456790 was used for Redstone.
« Last Edit: 07/06/2013 07:10 AM by Steven Pietrobon »
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

Offline Soheil

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 312
  • O_o
  • Tehran, I.R.IRAN
  • Liked: 27
  • Likes Given: 12
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #556 on: 07/06/2013 08:04 AM »
but the other parts in the serial seem to have no rhyme or reason.

Is it possible !?

for example "S" >>> Safir (?)
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Offline Comet

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 164
  • Liked: 11
  • Likes Given: 2
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #557 on: 07/06/2013 02:34 PM »
I don't remember the The Simorgh mockup inside a hangar of some sort picture was published before. Was it  on Iranian media? Is there another version with better quality?
« Last Edit: 07/06/2013 02:37 PM by Comet »

Offline Soheil

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 312
  • O_o
  • Tehran, I.R.IRAN
  • Liked: 27
  • Likes Given: 12
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #558 on: 07/06/2013 03:22 PM »
I don't remember the The Simorgh mockup inside a hangar of some sort picture was published before. Was it  on Iranian media? Is there another version with better quality?

no  :(
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Offline Comet

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 164
  • Liked: 11
  • Likes Given: 2
Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #559 on: 07/06/2013 03:45 PM »
I don't remember the The Simorgh mockup inside a hangar of some sort picture was published before. Was it  on Iranian media? Is there another version with better quality?

no  :(

Soheil, I take the NO for the last question. What is the origin of this picture? Original work? Iranian space agency / MOD?

Tags: