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From the right launch site, would UDMH/NTO rockets be commercially feasible with only minor detrimental effects on human health?

The Soviet Union designed a bunch of UDMH/NTO rockets, including the Proton. I imagine a successful rocket launch will burn almost all the UDMH & NTO, into H2O, N2, and CO2, none of which are toxic. Now, rockets will ocassionally fail, and leak lots of UDMH and NTO.

In Baikonur, there have been protests over the use of UDMH/NTO in rockets. And, a couple of news stories found via Google

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2015/05/mysterious-deaths-of-saiga-antelopes-may-have-sinister-cause/

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/disease-fears-on-rockets-path/

Wouldn't a big ocean, or the large expanses of of low population Kazakhstan, be enough to dilute the amount of UDMH/NTO exposure to humans? Wouldn't the biology and sunlight break down the NTO and UDMH? The launch site doesn't have to be permanently populated with pregnant women and kids. Is the Kazakhstan environmental movement going to town? Have the Russians just disregarded safety?
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Preliminary conclusion by end of week....

"We have no clue, no hypothesis fits the data"
is a preliminary conclusion ;-)

I would think a preliminary conclusion involves a hypothesis.  I don't think Musk would accept a preliminary conclusion like that from any of his employees.

Or Mr Musk is not satisfied with the progress of his IRT, and, in a ploy he has done many times in the past, creates a public benchmark, thus nearly impossible schedule, as motivation.

Can't do that in this case. He has three gov organizations with people involved in the process. FAA, NASA Air Force. They would know.
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Historical Spaceflight / Re: LLRV vs LLTV
« Last post by JAFO on Today at 06:42 AM »
For anyone who messes around with Microsoft Flight Sim, here's an interesting (and free!) flight sim model of it. http://www.things-to-come.com/lunarpilot/
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Spaceflight Entertainment and Hobbies / Re: Marooned XRV Model
« Last post by JAFO on Today at 06:34 AM »
I really need to find the original novel that I have somewhere, with the stranded Mercury.  I see the updated version everywhere.  This is a story that can be updated for whatever the current spacecraft being flown.  There was even a shuttle version written, Shuttle by David Onley, or it is as close to the same concept that I have read.

"Powering up out of chimp mode, standby one."

I still use that line.
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Preliminary conclusion by end of week....

"We have no clue, no hypothesis fits the data"
is a preliminary conclusion ;-)

I would think a preliminary conclusion involves a hypothesis.  I don't think Musk would accept a preliminary conclusion like that from any of his employees.

Or Mr Musk is not satisfied with the progress of his IRT, and, in a ploy he has done many times in the past, creates a public benchmark, thus nearly impossible schedule, as motivation.
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I'm in!
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It is well known that the first flight of Falcon 9 in 2010 had even more drama with the umbilical.
The rocket also rotated 90 degrees the instant it was released from the launch mount.
There was also drama with the TE on the 2nd F9 flight (one of the two arms was literally blasted off)!

Edit: Corrected the TE arm mishap. That was F9 flight 2.

Thanks for pointing that out. Google image search for "Falcon 9 liftoff" let me down.
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SpaceX General Section / Re: How Joe Average Perceives SpaceX
« Last post by Dalhousie on Today at 06:17 AM »
Not an average Joe, a few of those I know have heard of SpaceX, not many though.

Me, I've been keen about spaceflight all my life, always will be.  I don't get the the frenzy  over Musk and SpaceX, although I respect what they do.
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Depends on the elasticity of demand,

That's the brilliant economics in the SpaceX reuse concept. It works at any point of the elasticity curve. It can lower prices if more flights occur, it is very competetive if not.
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So I guess you're saying that the F9, being an ELV, just needs to fly once to cover its costs.
Just like every other ELV.

Yes, just with the bonus that its first stage can fly again. :)
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