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Title: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/03/2012 05:35 PM
Someone spotted a convoy shipping what appears to be two satellites over the hill roads of Tanegashima island on the night of October 15 - could this be the two satellites?

Is there any reasonable chance of this being launched before the new year?

Sources:

http://twitpic.com/b3pb6z (http://twitpic.com/b3pb6z)
http://twitpic.com/b470av (http://twitpic.com/b470av)
http://twitpic.com/b470kz (http://twitpic.com/b470kz)
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - NET late 2012 (or 1Q 2013)
Post by: Fuji on 11/05/2012 10:53 PM
I checked Mr. koumei Shibata's Twitter.
These photos are HTV parts transportation not the IGS.
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - NET late 2012 (or 1Q 2013)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/05/2012 11:34 PM
I checked Mr. koumei Shibata's Twitter.
These photos are HTV parts transportation not the IGS.


Thanks, looks like it's stork breeding time then!  ;D
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - NET late 2012 (or 1Q 2013)
Post by: Fuji on 11/27/2012 05:27 AM
JAXA and MHI announced launch date is Jan. 27, 2013 04:00-06:00 UTC.
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: input~2 on 11/28/2012 09:24 AM
Thanks; Jaxa press release in Japanese
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2012/11/20121127_h2af22_j.html
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: Fuji on 12/11/2012 12:03 AM
H-IIA rocket is arrived at Tanegashima in Dec 10th.
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/16/2013 06:05 AM
Does anybody know what configuration will the H-IIA be? 202 or 204?
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: Skyrocket on 01/17/2013 06:39 AM
Does anybody know what configuration will the H-IIA be? 202 or 204?

According to my information, it will be a 2024
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/17/2013 07:03 AM
Does anybody know what configuration will the H-IIA be? 202 or 204?

According to my information, it will be a 2024

I thought the Japanese has stopped the use of the SSBs when MHI took over the operation of the H-IIA? (see the Japanese reference at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-IIA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-IIA))
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: Skyrocket on 01/17/2013 09:16 AM
Does anybody know what configuration will the H-IIA be? 202 or 204?

According to my information, it will be a 2024

I thought the Japanese has stopped the use of the SSBs when MHI took over the operation of the H-IIA? (see the Japanese reference at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-IIA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-IIA))

You are right, i completely forgot about that.

As the dual launches of IGS satellites were all too heavy for the 202 version, i guess, that a 204 is the most likely version.
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: sdsds on 01/21/2013 05:30 AM
Is this one satellite bus with two payloads, or two distinct satellites?
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: Fuji on 01/22/2013 01:59 AM
Is this one satellite bus with two payloads, or two distinct satellites?

Two distinct satellites.


As the dual launches of IGS satellites were all too heavy for the 202 version, i guess, that a 204 is the most likely version.

I guess, that a 204 is doubtful.
IGS 1A/1B, IGS-2A/2B and IGS 4A/4B (IGS Optical-3 demo) were dual launched. These are 2024 configuration, but now SRB-A is upgraded to SRB-A3, so launch capability is increased more.
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: input~2 on 01/22/2013 11:58 PM
NOTAM
Quote
J0417/13 -  REF AIP SUP 155/12 ITEM 1,2,3  ROCKET H2A-F22 WILL BE LAUNCHED LAUNCHING DATE/TIME : BTN 0400 AND 0600(UTC)                       ON 27 JAN 2013. SFC - UNL, 22 JAN 03:25 2013 UNTIL 27 JAN 06:30 2013 ESTIMATED. CREATED: 22 JAN 03:25 2013
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: sdsds on 01/23/2013 07:40 AM
Is this one satellite bus with two payloads, or two distinct satellites?

Two distinct satellites.

Thank you for this answer! The webcam image from 01/22 16:50 (JST) looks a bit foggy. Is there any talk of weather being a constraint to this launch?

http://space.jaxa.jp/tnsc/webcam/index_e.shtml
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/23/2013 07:56 AM
Is this one satellite bus with two payloads, or two distinct satellites?

Two distinct satellites.

Thank you for this answer! The webcam image from 01/22 16:50 (JST) looks a bit foggy. Is there any talk of weather being a constraint to this launch?

http://space.jaxa.jp/tnsc/webcam/index_e.shtml

Hard to say for sure - this page (http://english.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=30.61000061,130.99000549&sp=RJFG) reports overcast skies on that day with some chance of raining.

BTW those volunteers are doing a live coverage of the launch again!  ;D http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nvs-live (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nvs-live)
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: input~2 on 01/23/2013 08:03 AM
more NOTAM
Quote
A0288/13 -  QXXXX THE JAPANESE SPACE EXPLORATION AGENCY (JAXA) HAS PLANNED A  ROCKET LAUNCH. DEBRIS FROM THIS LAUNCH WILL FALL WITHIN AN AREA  BOUNDED BY 1305N/13041E 1257N/13240E  0923N/13226E  0930N/13027E   BACK TO THE POINT OF ORIGIN.  IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY ALL  NON-PARTICIPATING AIR TRAFFIC ARE ADVISED TO AVOID THE NOTAMED AREA.  IFR AIRCRAFT UNDER ATC JURISDICTION SHOULD ANTICIPATE CLEARANCE  AROUND THE NOTAMED AREA. SFC - UNL, 27 JAN 04:00 2013 UNTIL 27 JAN 06:00 2013. CREATED: 22 JAN 16:13 2013
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: Fuji on 01/24/2013 12:12 AM

 Is there any talk of weather being a constraint to this launch?


Hard to say for sure - this page (http://english.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=30.61000061,130.99000549&sp=RJFG) reports overcast skies on that day with some chance of raining.



Tanegashima Space Center's weekly weather focast is here (Daily Updated).
http://space.jaxa.jp/tnsc/tn-weather/data/weekly.gif
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: blister on 01/24/2013 09:46 AM
BTW those volunteers are doing a live coverage of the launch again!  ;D http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nvs-live (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nvs-live)
[/quote]
[broadcast info] 2013/1/26 23:00(JST)H-IIA Rocket F22 Move to LP1. 2013/1/27 12:30(JST)H-IIA Rocket F22 Launch blog.nvs-live.com/?eid=81 #nvslive
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: input~2 on 01/24/2013 08:47 PM
2013/1/27 12:30(JST)H-IIA Rocket F22 Launch
That would be 0330UTC start of broadcast for the launch not launch time
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: Fuji on 01/25/2013 01:30 AM

As the dual launches of IGS satellites were all too heavy for the 202 version, i guess, that a 204 is the most likely version.

I guess, that a 204 is doubtful.
IGS 1A/1B, IGS-2A/2B and IGS 4A/4B (IGS Optical-3 demo) were dual launched. These are 2024 configuration, but now SRB-A is upgraded to SRB-A3, so launch capability is increased more.

Confirmed by the Mr. koumei Shibata's Twitter information.

H-IIA F22 is 202 configuration with 4/4D-LC fairing.
1st deploy the IGS radar-4 and 2nd deploy the IGS Optical-5 demo satellite.
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: blister on 01/25/2013 04:20 AM
2013/1/27 12:30(JST)H-IIA Rocket F22 Launch
That would be 0330UTC start of broadcast for the launch not launch time
That is right.
According to Mr. Komei shibata'S tweet.
Lanch window is 1/27 4:40 to 4:53UTC.
Just time is  after a press conference.
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: blister on 01/25/2013 05:53 AM
Acocording to Asahi newspaper

http://www.asahi.com/tech_science/update/0125/SEB201301250002.html (http://www.asahi.com/tech_science/update/0125/SEB201301250002.html)

Mr.Komei Shibata's said to same thing.
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: blister on 01/25/2013 06:30 PM
[broadcast info] 2013/1/26 23:00(JST)H-IIA Rocket F22 Move to LP1. 2013/1/27 12:30(JST)H-IIA Rocket F22 Launch blog.nvs-live.com/?eid=81 #nvslive
This is NVS twitter.
I tryed into translated from  NVS HP'sinfomation.
That's here.
 
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: yoichi on 01/26/2013 01:20 PM
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nvs-live
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/26/2013 01:26 PM
All right we have a launch tomorrow! A Japanese photographer waiting for the rollout just tweeted that the TNSC VAB has just opened its doors.... (http://twitpic.com/byf9hp (http://twitpic.com/byf9hp))

From various newspaper reports and even budget reports (via the omnipotent Wiki, Japanese version), here are some out open reports about the spysats:

- the radar satellite is of the same type launched in Dec. 2011 (IGS-R3) (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=27409.0), probably with a resolution of less than a meter. The cost of development and production of IGS-R3 was 39.8b yen (+ 10.3b yen launch costs), and apparently the cost IGS-R4 has been reduced by 15.4b yen.

- the optical satellite is a new generation demo satellite with a 2 year designed life. Back in 2009 Yomiuri Shimbun reported that this generation of satellites may reach a maximum of 40 cm resolution, putting it ahead of satellites like Geoeye-1 and perhaps only second to the current Keyholes....

For those who want to see the rollout, see http://www.ustream.tv/channel/5156072 (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/5156072).
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: blister on 01/26/2013 03:27 PM
For those who want to see the rollout, see http://www.ustream.tv/channel/5156072 (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/5156072).
from NVS Broadcasting
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/26/2013 04:35 PM
Roll out photos by Koumei Shibata (twitter.com/koumeiShibata (http://twitter.com/koumeiShibata)):

(and the full roll out: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/28818097/highlight/320524 (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/28818097/highlight/320524))
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: sdsds on 01/26/2013 06:32 PM
From the photos is it now clear this vehicle is flying in the "202" configuration? Also is it possible this vehicle includes any of the enhancements planned for the H-IIA upgrade program (long coast, clampband payload attach, onboard nav for range safety)?

http://www.jaxa.jp/pr/brochure/pdf/01/rocket08.pdf
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Prober on 01/26/2013 10:45 PM
Have a feeling this mission will be full of surprises.

Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: sdsds on 01/26/2013 11:38 PM
Beautiful scenery, but .... Isn't there a launch pad towards which the web cam could be pointed? Is this a national security secrecy thing?
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/26/2013 11:53 PM

From various newspaper reports and even budget reports (via the omnipotent Wiki, Japanese version), here are some out open reports about the spysats:

- the radar satellite is of the same type launched in Dec. 2011 (IGS-R3) (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=27409.0), probably with a resolution of less than a meter. The cost of development and production of IGS-R3 was 39.8b yen (+ 10.3b yen launch costs), and apparently the cost IGS-R4 has been reduced by 15.4b yen.

- the optical satellite is a new generation demo satellite with a 2 year designed life. Back in 2009 Yomiuri Shimbun reported that this generation of satellites may reach a maximum of 40 cm resolution, putting it ahead of satellites like Geoeye-1 and perhaps only second to the current Keyholes....

Good stuff GP! Should be able to get an article written for this, even if it'll be a short one.
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: blister on 01/27/2013 12:48 AM
Beautiful scenery, but .... Isn't there a launch pad towards which the web cam could be pointed? Is this a national security secrecy thing?
It seems that the rock is reflected in this web camera in the launch of IGS in many cases.
Seemingly, They want to make secret.
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: russianhalo117 on 01/27/2013 12:52 AM

From various newspaper reports and even budget reports (via the omnipotent Wiki, Japanese version), here are some out open reports about the spysats:

- the radar satellite is of the same type launched in Dec. 2011 (IGS-R3) (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=27409.0), probably with a resolution of less than a meter. The cost of development and production of IGS-R3 was 39.8b yen (+ 10.3b yen launch costs), and apparently the cost IGS-R4 has been reduced by 15.4b yen.

- the optical satellite is a new generation demo satellite with a 2 year designed life. Back in 2009 Yomiuri Shimbun reported that this generation of satellites may reach a maximum of 40 cm resolution, putting it ahead of satellites like Geoeye-1 and perhaps only second to the current Keyholes....

Good stuff GP! Should be able to get an article written for this, even if it'll be a short one.
I received a reminder from ustream reminding for this launch. Webcast scheduled to officially start at 2130 hrs in U.S. CST Local Time. Bars are currently showing on the screen but is now briefly not live.
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: catdlr on 01/27/2013 12:55 AM

From various newspaper reports and even budget reports (via the omnipotent Wiki, Japanese version), here are some out open reports about the spysats:

- the radar satellite is of the same type launched in Dec. 2011 (IGS-R3) (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=27409.0), probably with a resolution of less than a meter. The cost of development and production of IGS-R3 was 39.8b yen (+ 10.3b yen launch costs), and apparently the cost IGS-R4 has been reduced by 15.4b yen.

- the optical satellite is a new generation demo satellite with a 2 year designed life. Back in 2009 Yomiuri Shimbun reported that this generation of satellites may reach a maximum of 40 cm resolution, putting it ahead of satellites like Geoeye-1 and perhaps only second to the current Keyholes....

Good stuff GP! Should be able to get an article written for this, even if it'll be a short one.
I received a reminder from ustream reminding for this launch. Webcast scheduled to officially start at 2130 hrs in U.S. CST Local Time. Bars are currently showing on the screen but is now briefly not live.
Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013
Post by: blister on 01/27/2013 01:22 AM
Mr.Komei Shibata's photo.
about 1:50UTC's photo.
 
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Prober on 01/27/2013 02:01 AM
Is that LV taller than the one that launched the HTV, looks it?
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: blister on 01/27/2013 02:24 AM
It is Started of countdownclock on twitter by asahi_tenmon.

Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: sdsds on 01/27/2013 02:31 AM
Is that LV taller than the one that launched the HTV, looks it?

H-IIB (which launches HTV) is actually taller, but H-IIA is "finer" (skinnier).

(Source of image is http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:H-II_series.png)
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/27/2013 02:32 AM
For those interested, the live coverage has just begun.

Weather is crappy - overcast with cloud banks at less than 3000 feet and drizzles, but should be good enough for launch. Fueling should have finished by now.
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 02:41 AM
Is the Ustream the only live feed for this launch?
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: russianhalo117 on 01/27/2013 02:44 AM
Is the Ustream the only live feed for this launch?
this is the only webcast that I know of at the moment
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 02:46 AM
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/27/2013 02:47 AM
Is the Ustream the only live feed for this launch?

Remember that the Japanese don't have such fanfares as NRO/ULA does to their launches.  ;) We are lucky that some volunteers are picking up coverage......
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Prober on 01/27/2013 02:48 AM
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: russianhalo117 on 01/27/2013 02:48 AM
Camera feeds are now reported to be officially live and are now broadcasting in realtime.
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Prober on 01/27/2013 02:51 AM
Is that LV taller than the one that launched the HTV, looks it?

H-IIB (which launches HTV) is actually taller, but H-IIA is "finer" (skinnier).

(Source of image is http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:H-II_series.png)

thx the shorter solids make the lv look taller.
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Rahkashi on 01/27/2013 02:52 AM
Has the live stream gone off air for anyone else?
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: russianhalo117 on 01/27/2013 02:52 AM
Camera feeds are now reported to be officially live and are now broadcasting in realtime.
and now sorta broken. DDOS is probably not the case but appears to being discussed
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 02:53 AM
Has the live stream gone off air for anyone else?

Yes - seems like the guy doing the broadcast had to reboot his computer. (Google translated from their twitter)
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/27/2013 02:58 AM
It's back with a 10x time elapse of the roll out last night.  :)
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Ian on 01/27/2013 02:59 AM
Could you post the link of the livestream here please? I cannot find it.
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 02:59 AM
Could you post the link of the livestream here please? I cannot find it.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/5156072
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 03:01 AM
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 03:02 AM
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 03:04 AM
Looks like we're going to lose it into the clouds pretty soon after launch...
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Prober on 01/27/2013 03:04 AM
sun sneaking past some clouds.

Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/27/2013 03:05 AM
Note that to avoid falling rocket stage over the Philippines, all SSO launches out of TNSC must fly a dog-leg trajectory: heading south-east until SRB separation, then yaw something like 90 degrees towards south for the remainder of the flight.

Details by Bob Christy: http://www.zarya.info/blog/?p=624 (http://www.zarya.info/blog/?p=624)
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Prober on 01/27/2013 03:07 AM
doesn't look like anyone is fueing it?  can anyone see that?
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 03:07 AM
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 03:07 AM
doesn't look like anyone is fueing it?  can anyone see that?


I'm not sure, but I think I see a little venting from the interstage.
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: russianhalo117 on 01/27/2013 03:08 AM
Mission Link form webcast chat: http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv123364007 (http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv123364007)
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/27/2013 03:09 AM
Do we have a confirmed T-0 target yet?
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/27/2013 03:10 AM
I finally got the answer of what the mysterious sprinklers at TNSC are used for: to prevent any grass fires happening after a launch.  ::)

(well it's a much smaller area than at the Cape.....)
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/27/2013 03:11 AM
Do we have a confirmed T-0 target yet?

04:40:00 UTC. 13 minute long launch window.
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/27/2013 03:12 AM
For reference of the Japanese reconnaissance satellite program: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Gathering_Satellite (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Gathering_Satellite)
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/27/2013 03:18 AM
Do we have a confirmed T-0 target yet?

04:40:00 UTC. 13 minute long launch window.

Super.

L-22 mins then!
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 03:30 AM
L-10 minutes.
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/27/2013 03:30 AM
Lots of kids in attendance from the sound of it.
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Longhorn John on 01/27/2013 03:31 AM
So is this a dual satellite launch?
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: russianhalo117 on 01/27/2013 03:32 AM
So is this a dual satellite launch?
yes
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/27/2013 03:34 AM
Such a beautiful launch site.
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 03:36 AM
Less than 4 minutes to launch.
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/27/2013 03:37 AM
So is this a dual satellite launch?
yes

The performance of the H-IIA (202) to a 800 km SSO is about 4400 kg - higher than the Delta II but lower than the smallest Atlas V / Delta IV / Soyuz-Fregat.
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: jcm on 01/27/2013 03:38 AM
We're expecting 6 objects in the catalog after launch: Radar-4, Demo Satellite, H-IIA second stage, 4/4D-LC lower fairing halves (two), and intersatellite adapter.

T-3 min
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/27/2013 03:38 AM
T-120 seconds.

We can hear the countdown in the background.
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 03:39 AM
T-60 seconds.
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 03:40 AM
Liftoff!
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 03:40 AM
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 03:40 AM
And it's gone!
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/27/2013 03:40 AM
LAUNCH!!
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 03:41 AM
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/27/2013 03:41 AM
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/27/2013 03:41 AM
Into clouds really fast.

Also could really see the pitch come in!
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: robertross on 01/27/2013 03:41 AM
And out of sight behind the clouds  :(
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Prober on 01/27/2013 03:41 AM
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 03:42 AM
Empty pad...
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/27/2013 03:43 AM
As for the launch outcome - it should be known by the top of the hour (single 2nd stage burn expected)
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 03:44 AM
L+4 minutes.
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 03:47 AM
Showing replays now.

L+7 minutes. Should have had staging and second stage ignition by now.
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Ian on 01/27/2013 03:52 AM
Here is a video of the launch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEHDHqhO6Jk&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 04:01 AM
L+20 minutes. Any word on an outcome?

Replay from another location:
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: blister on 01/27/2013 04:10 AM
1406JST satelite sepalating is complete.
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/27/2013 04:15 AM
Excellent! Thanks Blister.

Article:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/01/japanese-h-iia-lofts-igs-satellite-duo/
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/27/2013 04:15 AM
Here is a video of the launch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEHDHqhO6Jk&feature=youtu.be

Thanks Ian!
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Nick L. on 01/27/2013 04:15 AM
1406JST satelite sepalating is complete.

Great! Congrats to everyone involved.
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 01/27/2013 04:18 AM
This Japanese blog announces that "launch seems to be a success"
http://blog.livedoor.jp/h2a_f8/
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 01/27/2013 04:22 AM
From Mr. Koumei Shibata
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/27/2013 04:25 AM
From Mr. Koumei Shibata

And another:
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 01/27/2013 04:36 AM
and launch success also announced in the Japanese press
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20130127-00000013-mai-sctch (http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20130127-00000013-mai-sctch)
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
Post by: yoichi on 01/27/2013 04:39 AM
THE ASAHI SHIMBUN DIGITAL
http://www.asahi.com/tech_science/update/0127/SEB201301270005.html
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 01/27/2013 05:13 AM
Separation of both spacecraft confirmed by Jaxa (in Japanese)
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2013/01/20130127_h2af22_j.html
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
Post by: blister on 01/27/2013 06:01 AM
press coference is completed.
from Asahi digital astoronomy section twitter
https://twitter.com/asahi_tenmon (https://twitter.com/asahi_tenmon)
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
Post by: blister on 01/27/2013 06:40 AM
The Asahi news paper's Aerial photography image is here.
http://www.asahi.com/tech_science/update/0127/SEB201301270005.html (http://www.asahi.com/tech_science/update/0127/SEB201301270005.html)
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 01/27/2013 06:55 AM
The Asahi news paper's Aerial photography image is here.
http://www.asahi.com/tech_science/update/0127/SEB201301270005.html (http://www.asahi.com/tech_science/update/0127/SEB201301270005.html)
and also an interesting aerial video :)
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/27/2013 09:28 AM
The Asahi news paper's Aerial photography image is here.
http://www.asahi.com/tech_science/update/0127/SEB201301270005.html (http://www.asahi.com/tech_science/update/0127/SEB201301270005.html)
and also an interesting aerial video :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWCp1uZuZQQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWCp1uZuZQQ)
Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 01/27/2013 05:27 PM
At this time USSTRATCOM has catalogued 5 objects
3 with public orbital data
  • 2013-002A/39061 in 508.6 x 514.2km x 97.51°
  • 2013-002B/39062 in 511.9 x 523.1km x 97.50°
  • 2013-002C/39063 in 521.8 x 429.9km x 97.45°

  • 2 more objects have  been catalogued without public tle at this time and could be the payloads (IGS RADAR-4 & IGS Optical 5 Demo)
  • 2013-002D/39064 in 512 x 515km x 97.51°
  • 2013-002E/39065 in 511 x 514km x 97.51°
  • Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
    Post by: input~2 on 01/27/2013 07:13 PM
    We seem to have 7 objects in orbit, one more than Jonathan predicted :D

  • 2013-002G/39067 in 431.6 x 517.0km x 97.45°
  • Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
    Post by: Prober on 01/27/2013 10:17 PM
    We seem to have 7 objects in orbit, one more than Jonathan predicted :D

  • 2013-002G/39067 in 431.6 x 517.0km x 97.45°


  • see surprises....:D
    Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
    Post by: jcm on 01/27/2013 11:08 PM
    We seem to have 7 objects in orbit, one more than Jonathan predicted :D

  • 2013-002G/39067 in 431.6 x 517.0km x 97.45°


  • see surprises....:D

    Could be just an unplanned debris object, not uncommon with H2A launches.
    Title: Re: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
    Post by: Fuji on 01/28/2013 12:55 AM
    From the photos is it now clear this vehicle is flying in the "202" configuration? Also is it possible this vehicle includes any of the enhancements planned for the H-IIA upgrade program (long coast, clampband payload attach, onboard nav for range safety)?

    http://www.jaxa.jp/pr/brochure/pdf/01/rocket08.pdf

    Long coast enhancements will be introduced 2014 (May be Hayabusa-2 mission).
    Other upgrade development will be finished 2013. I'm not sure detailed schedule. But no relation on this flight.
    Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
    Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/28/2013 02:20 AM
    At this time USSTRATCOM has catalogued 5 objects
    3 with public orbital data
  • 2013-002A/39061 in 508.6 x 514.2km x 97.51°
  • 2013-002B/39062 in 511.9 x 523.1km x 97.50°
  • 2013-002C/39063 in 521.8 x 429.9km x 97.45°

  • 2 more objects have  been catalogued without public tle at this time and could be the payloads (IGS RADAR-4 & IGS Optical 5 Demo)
  • 2013-002D/39064 in 512 x 515km x 97.51°
  • 2013-002E/39065 in 511 x 514km x 97.51°

  • Did they got released accidentally? I can't find them on Space Track.....
    Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
    Post by: jcm on 01/28/2013 04:40 AM
    At this time USSTRATCOM has catalogued 5 objects
    3 with public orbital data
  • 2013-002A/39061 in 508.6 x 514.2km x 97.51°
  • 2013-002B/39062 in 511.9 x 523.1km x 97.50°
  • 2013-002C/39063 in 521.8 x 429.9km x 97.45°

  • 2 more objects have  been catalogued without public tle at this time and could be the payloads (IGS RADAR-4 & IGS Optical 5 Demo)
  • 2013-002D/39064 in 512 x 515km x 97.51°
  • 2013-002E/39065 in 511 x 514km x 97.51°

  • Did they got released accidentally? I can't find them on Space Track.....

    Correct, they have now been removed - oops!
    TLEs for all 6 objects were available earlier today, but not any more
    Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
    Post by: input~2 on 01/28/2013 03:51 PM
    Object F
  • 2013-002F/39066 in 511.5 x 513.6 km x 97.50°
    (epoch: 27/1/2012 2133:23UTC)
     
  • Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
    Post by: Targeteer on 01/28/2013 04:00 PM
    At this time USSTRATCOM has catalogued 5 objects
    3 with public orbital data
  • 2013-002A/39061 in 508.6 x 514.2km x 97.51°
  • 2013-002B/39062 in 511.9 x 523.1km x 97.50°
  • 2013-002C/39063 in 521.8 x 429.9km x 97.45°

  • 2 more objects have  been catalogued without public tle at this time and could be the payloads (IGS RADAR-4 & IGS Optical 5 Demo)
  • 2013-002D/39064 in 512 x 515km x 97.51°
  • 2013-002E/39065 in 511 x 514km x 97.51°

  • Did they got released accidentally? I can't find them on Space Track.....

    Correct, they have now been removed - oops!
    TLEs for all 6 objects were available earlier today, but not any more


    Not surprising that the US doesn't publish TLEs on "friendly" recon sats now after one friend, France, threatened to do the same with US birds because the US reported on theirs.
    Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (~0440UTC)
    Post by: Stan Black on 01/28/2013 07:46 PM
    Excellent! Thanks Blister.

    Article:
    http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/01/japanese-h-iia-lofts-igs-satellite-duo/

    Chris,
     Current rockets are using SRB-A3, and the specifications are apparently tailored to each flight. Just wondered where you sourced the figures used in your article?

    P.S. you also used ‘ISG’…

     Has anyong compiled a list of the different rocket configurations?
    Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
    Post by: sdsds on 01/28/2013 07:51 PM
    The Japanese language wikipedia has an article on SRB-A which includes a table showing a variety of variants.

    http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRB-A
    Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
    Post by: Star One on 01/28/2013 08:35 PM
    At this time USSTRATCOM has catalogued 5 objects
    3 with public orbital data
  • 2013-002A/39061 in 508.6 x 514.2km x 97.51°
  • 2013-002B/39062 in 511.9 x 523.1km x 97.50°
  • 2013-002C/39063 in 521.8 x 429.9km x 97.45°

  • 2 more objects have  been catalogued without public tle at this time and could be the payloads (IGS RADAR-4 & IGS Optical 5 Demo)
  • 2013-002D/39064 in 512 x 515km x 97.51°
  • 2013-002E/39065 in 511 x 514km x 97.51°

  • Did they got released accidentally? I can't find them on Space Track.....

    Correct, they have now been removed - oops!
    TLEs for all 6 objects were available earlier today, but not any more


    Not surprising that the US doesn't publish TLEs on "friendly" recon sats now after one friend, France, threatened to do the same with US birds because the US reported on theirs.

    Thanks for the heads up on that as I was just going to ask if the US classifies friendly nations recon satellites TLEs as well as its own. :)
    Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
    Post by: Liryc on 02/11/2013 10:00 AM
    Hi everyone !
    I just saw some pics of this launcher.. and i was wondering what where all the ca cables for ?
    I guess the big red pipes are for the satellite air conditionning but the others I don't have a clue. Any idea ?

    Cheers !
    Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
    Post by: pargoo on 02/15/2013 02:14 AM
         Better/bigger launch pic.  I tried to link strait to the Japanese wiki entry but the URL wouldn't work, presumably because of kanji characters :/
    Title: Re: Live: H-IIA F22 - IGS radar-4 & IGS Optical-5 demo - January 27, 2013 (0440UTC)
    Post by: Targeteer on 05/13/2013 11:03 PM
    Ted Molczan's analysis of the various objects from this launch...

    http://www.satobs.org/seesat/May-2013/0112.html

    A. Suggested IGS 8 Designations

    39061 13002A IGS 8 Radar                                 509 X 511 km
    1 39061U 13002A   13129.03248494  .00000000  00000-0  00000-0 0    08
    2 39061  97.4379 249.6840 0002000 104.6569 255.3429 15.17630370    09

    39062 13002B Optical                                     416 X 432 km
    1 99143U 13618A   13129.36367123 -.00000178  00000-0 -35992-5 0    06
    2 99143  97.1489 250.1926 0001057 319.3248  40.7923 15.46466929    01

    39063 13002C Rocket                                      434 X 497 km
    1 39066U 13002F   13129.00474055  .00022000  00000-0  68108-3 0    04
    2 39066  97.5303 251.9504 0046270 147.5376 212.4622 15.32406235    01

    39064 13002D Adaptor                                     493 X 504 km
    1 39064U 13002D   13129.04227778  .00026999  00000-0  12004-2 0    08
    2 39064  97.5337 250.8293 0007814 309.1050  51.1487 15.21524843    06

    39065 13002E Fairing                                     489 X 493 km
    1 39065U 13002E   13129.06087646  .00048500  00000-0  20184-2 0    09
    2 39065  97.5062 250.8299 0002996 277.7083  82.2916 15.23795593    06

    39066 13002F Fairing                                     488 X 491 km
    1 39062U 13002B   13129.04038549  .00053000  00000-0  21654-2 0    06
    2 39062  97.5062 251.0020 0002252 224.2209 135.7789 15.24418502    05