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Title: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 09/25/2010 08:10 AM
Three NOTAMs were issued for today in China:

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A7644/10 - ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO AN AREA CENTERED AT N402754E0972406 WITH RADIUS OF 60KM AT 6900M AND BELOW. FL000 - FL217, 25 SEP 06:40 2010 UNTIL 25 SEP 07:40 2010. CREATED: 24 SEP 16:10 2010
(already cancelled)

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A7648/10 - THE SEGMENT CLSD:30KM BOTH SIDES OF LINE BTN POINT A (N385013E1113622) AND POINT B (N392923E1073035). SFC - UNL, 25 SEP 08:30 2010 UNTIL 25 SEP 09:07 2010. CREATED: 25 SEP 06:56 2010

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A7627/10 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N3830E11200-N3910E11200-N4200E8600-N4100E8600 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 25 SEP 08:40 2010 UNTIL 25 SEP 08:55 2010. CREATED: 23 SEP 10:07 2010

The latter closed a strip from Taiyuan to Korla. Maybe a missile launch with or without an ABM test.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Satori on 09/26/2010 06:29 PM
Any news regarding this launch?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 09/27/2010 07:17 AM
Any news regarding this launch?
Nope. My Chinese topic http://www.9ifly.cn/sub/thread-4428-1-1.html recieved 47000 hits but no official announcement or reliable leak surfaced.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 10/16/2010 12:45 PM
"A U.S. official confirmed that China's military fired a missile from the  Taiyuan missile center, about 320 miles southwest of Beijing, to Korla,  a city in western China some 1,800 miles away."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/oct/6/inside-the-ring-488593726/
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 10/29/2010 04:56 PM
Found this NOTAM:

A7846/10 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA  ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N430921E1161141-N433510E1224354-N433017E1232104-N432829E1232108-N43 2035E1224452-  N430129E1161207 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:  SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 30 OCT  06:45 2010 UNTIL 30 OCT 07:45 2010. CREATED: 29 OCT 10:13 2010

It defines a long prohibited corridor aligned with Jiuquan satellite launch center, direction ENE, with a medium point distance of 1650km from JSLC.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Satori on 10/29/2010 05:07 PM
Found this NOTAM:

A7846/10 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA  ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N430921E1161141-N433510E1224354-N433017E1232104-N432829E1232108-N43 2035E1224452-  N430129E1161207 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:  SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 30 OCT  06:45 2010 UNTIL 30 OCT 07:45 2010. CREATED: 29 OCT 10:13 2010

It defines a long prohibited corridor aligned with Jiuquan satellite launch center, direction ENE, with a medium point distance of 1650km from JSLC.

Interesting...
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 05/23/2011 10:35 AM
Screenshot of a CCTV report on an undated ABM test from Taiyuan
http://news.cntv.cn/china/20110515/102565.shtml
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 05/24/2011 08:20 PM
And this is not the first such case. Another unknown launch was included into the footage of Shijian-6-04 launch on October 6, 2010:



It may well be just operator's training
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: limen4 on 05/26/2011 11:18 AM
Screenshot of a CCTV report on an undated ABM test from Taiyuan
http://news.cntv.cn/china/20110515/102565.shtml


It seems that the flight path leads southwards from Taiyuan and not westwards to Korla. If this is true then it is not an ABM launch.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 05/26/2011 12:36 PM
Screenshot of a CCTV report on an undated ABM test from Taiyuan
http://news.cntv.cn/china/20110515/102565.shtml (http://news.cntv.cn/china/20110515/102565.shtml)
It seems that the flight path leads southwards from Taiyuan and not westwards to Korla. If this is true then it is not an ABM launch.
AFAIU, the legend of the picture reads:
 "Recently circulated online screenshot of CCTV report on anti-missile interception test from Taiyuan anti-missile base."

Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 07/19/2011 09:32 AM
Noted these 2 NOTAMs for July 20 between 10:25 am and 10:54 am LT

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  A0961/11 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N395012E1070649-N394749E1095004-N385230E1094844-N385453E1070649  BACK TO  START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY  INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 20 JUL 02:25 2011 UNTIL 20 JUL 02:54 2011. CREATED: 19 JUL 08:30 2011

A0962/11
-  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N370116E0815419-N372342E0832733-N363713E0834635-N361338E0821258  BACK TO  START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY  INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 20 JUL 02:25 2011 UNTIL 20 JUL 02:54 2011. CREATED: 19 JUL 08:31 2011




                                           
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: limen4 on 07/19/2011 11:29 AM
Noted these 2 NOTAMs for July 20 between 10:25 am and 10:54 am LT

Very interesting. An ICBM test launch from TSLC? DF-31?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Satori on 07/21/2011 11:35 PM
Noted these 2 NOTAMs for July 20 between 10:25 am and 10:54 am LT

No news about this?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 07/23/2011 07:25 AM
If that helps, an additional NOTAM seemed linked to the event:

  A0968/11 - THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.V16: ATBUG-DENGKOU VOR 'DKO'. 2.A596:YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-DENGKOU VOR 'DKO'. 20 JUL 02:25 2011 UNTIL 20 JUL 03:00 2011. CREATED: 19 JUL 14:32 2011 

Waypoints coordinates:
ATBUG =  40°59'24.00"N  104°26'0.00"E

DENGKOU =  40°18'9.00"N  107° 0'0.00"E

YABRAI =  39°25'7.00"N 102°46'3.00"E
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 07/24/2011 02:29 PM
User kktt on the 9ifly chinese space forum supposed it could be a Julang-2 SLBM launch from Dalian, with the eastern area for 1st stage and the western one for the 2nd stage and warhead.
(If so, it would feature direct overflight of Tianjin, a city as large as New York.)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 07/24/2011 04:49 PM
AFAIU, this user infers that the trajectory passed in the middle of the Bohai Sea (South of Dalian) in order not to overfly major cities like Beijing and Tianjin.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 07/25/2011 05:15 PM
Yes, but the map presented by kktt clearly shows overflight of Tianjin.

Well, is is interesting to note that Shijian-11-03 passed in the vicinity of Dalian, the suspected launch area, on July 20 at 02:43 UTC.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 07/25/2011 05:43 PM
Well, is is interesting to note that Shijian-11-03 passed in the vicinity of Dalian, the suspected launch area, on July 20 at 02:43 UTC.
For early warning calibration?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: limen4 on 07/25/2011 08:02 PM
User kktt on the 9ifly chinese space forum supposed it could be a Julang-2 SLBM launch from Dalian, with the eastern area for 1st stage and the western one for the 2nd stage and warhead.
(If so, it would feature direct overflight of Tianjin, a city as large as New York.)

If a launch from Bohai sea area was intended, why no NOTAM was issued for this area?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 07/25/2011 08:36 PM
If a launch from Bohai sea area was intended, why no NOTAM was issued for this area?
First, I can't say there was no NOTAM for the Bohai sea since I didn't check NOTAMs for the FIR where the Northern part of the Bohai Sea is located.
Second, there might well have been no NOTAM for the launch area: this is the case for all CZ launches from XSLC, TSLC and JSLC (AFAIK, there are even no NOTAMS for the dropped CZ-3B/3C first stages or second stages).
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 08/19/2011 11:00 AM
Noted these 2 NOTAMS
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A1227/11 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N421440E0950902-N421023E0954455-N414902E0954014-N415318E0950433  BACK TO  START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY  INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 20 AUG 02:55 2011 UNTIL 20 AUG 03:28 2011. CREATED: 19 AUG 06:46 2011
 
A1228/11 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N423937E0942350-N422523E0952040-N421024E0951219-N422936E0941821  BACK TO  START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY  INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 20 AUG 02:55 2011 UNTIL 20 AUG 03:27 2011. CREATED: 19 AUG 06:48 2011
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Satori on 08/19/2011 11:35 AM
Noted these 2 NOTAMS
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A1227/11 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N421440E0950902-N421023E0954455-N414902E0954014-N415318E0950433  BACK TO  START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY  INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 20 AUG 02:55 2011 UNTIL 20 AUG 03:28 2011. CREATED: 19 AUG 06:46 2011
 
A1228/11 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N423937E0942350-N422523E0952040-N421024E0951219-N422936E0941821  BACK TO  START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY  INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 20 AUG 02:55 2011 UNTIL 20 AUG 03:27 2011. CREATED: 19 AUG 06:48 2011

Can you specify the area?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 08/19/2011 12:10 PM
Areas (using Google Earth)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 08/24/2011 09:13 AM
The giant "bubble of light" seen in Beijing and Shanghai on August 20, at 21:07 LT could be linked to an ICBM launch as suggested by this source (in Chinese)
http://culture.ifeng.com/whrd/detail_2011_08/24/8642483_0.shtml (http://culture.ifeng.com/whrd/detail_2011_08/24/8642483_0.shtml)
http://culture.ifeng.com/whrd/detail_2011_08/24/8642483_1.shtml (http://culture.ifeng.com/whrd/detail_2011_08/24/8642483_1.shtml)
(as a reference the video from the June 22 Hawaii event is at vimeo.com[slash]25743686)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 08/25/2011 06:36 PM
Umm, Shijian-11-01 flew over the Bohai Sea area at 20:46 Beijing time and probably had a visibility of the area until 20:53. One may wonder if the times stamped at the images are precise.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 08/25/2011 08:03 PM
Umm, Shijian-11-01 flew over the Bohai Sea area at 20:46 Beijing time and probably had a visibility of the area until 20:53. One may wonder if the times stamped at the images are precise.
A first remark is that the "bubble" seems to originate to the West of Beijing , where the pictures were taken, looking at the reddish twilight near the "bubble". So if the origin of the bubble is a sudden blow-out of an ICBM upper stage, the event could have taken place over Xinjiang.
Concerning the timing, several minutes could have elapsed between the launch and the upper stage thrust termination (180s in the case of a Minuteman) which triggered the bubble..
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 09/03/2011 07:10 AM
Interesting to note that People's Daily is mentionning ICBM as one of the potential reasons for the "giant bubble" observed on August 20
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90882/7585090.html (http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90882/7585090.html)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 09/08/2011 12:59 PM
A microblogger (http://weibo.com/1403366091/xl9ebBIxF) with the Beijing Planetarium has calculated that the center of the "bubble" was located at an altitude of about 267 km above a location West of Bayan Nur, Inner Mongolia (N403601E1051556) as depicted in the attached picture.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 09/15/2011 02:17 PM
Another pair:

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A1371/11 - TWO TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED. 1. ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO AN AREA CENTERED AT N375538E950158 WITH RADIUS OF 70KM. 2. AREA BOUNDED BY N380507E942949-N375825E942751-N391305E883314-N390609E883154 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL. SFC - UNL, 0050-0130, 0315-0355, 16 AND 0040-0120, 0320-0400, 17, 16 SEP 00:50 2011 UNTIL 17 SEP 04:00 2011. CREATED: 15 SEP 07:12 2011
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 09/23/2011 10:02 PM
More interesting NOTAMs
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(http://file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Standard/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.png) A1451/11 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N403517E0931655-N403449E0935556-N402401E0935542-N402429E0931641  BACK TO  START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY  INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 24 SEP 03:17 2011 UNTIL 24 SEP 03:42 2011. CREATED: 23 SEP 12:42 2011

A1450/11 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N403936E0935820-N403858E0943347-N401724E0943307-N401802E0935740  BACK TO  START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY  INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 24 SEP 03:17 2011 UNTIL 24 SEP 03:43 2011. CREATED: 23 SEP 12:39 2011

A1449/11 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N392215E1085607-N391436E1095055-N385840E1094713-N390619E1085225  BACK TO  START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY  INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 24 SEP 03:16 2011 UNTIL 24 SEP 03:37 2011. CREATED: 23 SEP 12:33 2011
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 09/24/2011 02:48 PM
I forgot to mention this one
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A1448/11 - A TEMPORARY CONTROLLED AREA ESTABLISHED: A CIRCLE CENTERED AT N3850E11136 WITH RADIUS OF 15KM, VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL. SFC - UNL, 24 SEP 03:15 2011 UNTIL 24 SEP 03:30 2011. CREATED: 23 SEP 12:29 2011
which indicated a circle centered on TSLC with a slightly earlier timeframe. So maybe a missile launched earlier today from TSLC?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 09/25/2011 10:16 AM
Some activity planned for to-morrow night ;D
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A1458/11 -  A TEMPORARY PROHIBITED AREA ESTABLISHED:CENTERED AT  N375538E0950158, WITH RADIUS OF 70KM, VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL  ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO THIS AREA. SFC - UNL, 1200-1300,1900-2000, 26 SEP 12:00 2011 UNTIL 26 SEP 20:00 2011. CREATED: 25 SEP 10:03 2011

A1459/11 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N375825E0942751-N380507E0942949-N391305E0883314-N390609E0883154  BACK TO  START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY  INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 1200-1300,1900-2000, 26 SEP 12:00 2011 UNTIL 26 SEP 20:00 2011. CREATED: 25 SEP 10:06 2011
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 09/25/2011 01:13 PM
and for the evening:
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A1460/11 -  A TEMPORARY PROHIBITED AREA ESTABLISHED:CENTERED AT  N3852E11136, WITH RADIUS OF 12KM, VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL  ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO THIS AREA. SFC - UNL, 26 SEP 11:10 2011 UNTIL 26 SEP 11:30 2011. CREATED: 25 SEP 12:11 2011

A1461/11 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N401204E1044922-N400419E1054446-N394304E1053937-N395047E1044429  BACK TO  START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY  INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 26 SEP 11:12 2011 UNTIL 26 SEP 11:40 2011. CREATED: 25 SEP 12:13 2011

A1463/11 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N412434E0864747-N412443E0870208-N411355E0870219-N411346E0864801  BACK TO  START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY  INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 26 SEP 11:13 2011 UNTIL 26 SEP 11:43 2011. CREATED: 25 SEP 12:18 2011

A1462/11 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N412953E0864030-N413022E0873759-N410846E0873809-N410817E0864059  BACK TO  START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY  INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 26 SEP 11:13 2011 UNTIL 26 SEP 11:43 2011. CREATED: 25 SEP 12:15 2011
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 09/26/2011 08:10 PM
There were several reports today on Chinese microblogs and forums about a spiral contrail (presumably from the missile launch subject of the A1460/11 NOTAM quoted above) observed from about 7:20pm to 7:30pm (LT) over Inner Mongolia.
 (http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1240517-1-1.html)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 10/27/2011 07:44 PM
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A1593/11 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N374048E0914541-N372951E0914727- N375205E0951127-N380302E0950949  BACK TO  START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY  INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 28 OCT 03:00 2011 UNTIL 28 OCT 04:00 2011. CREATED: 27 OCT 06:11 201
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 12/21/2011 07:08 PM
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A1852/11 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N412004E1005117-N403827E1085439-N400323E1084631-N405934E1004312   BACK TO  START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY  INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 22 DEC 10:10 2011 UNTIL 22 DEC 10:50 2011. CREATED: 21 DEC 07:45 2011
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 12/29/2011 08:26 PM
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A1908/11 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N384354E1212820-N382806E1212555-N383357E1201925-N385003E1202146   BACK TO  START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY  INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 30 DEC 04:05 2011 UNTIL 30 DEC 04:30 2011. CREATED: 29 DEC 08:37 2011
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Victory O on 01/01/2012 02:38 PM
新年第一个好消息 12月30日中午巨浪-2潜射弹道导弹试验成功。巨浪-2,(北约代号CSS-NX-4)是中国第二代洲际潜射弹道导弹,设计为三段固体燃料推进火箭,射程1万公里左右,可携带多枚核弹头,是东风-31弹道导弹海基型号。 最新消息:昨天的试射非常成功!
source:  http://t.cn/SJXJK1

translate:
NO1 good news for the new year's day,JL-2(NATO :CSS-NX-4)was successfully tested,the launch time was 30 Dec. 12am.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 01/01/2012 04:31 PM
the launch time was 30 Dec. 12am.
Seems to fit the NOTAMed launch window
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 04/14/2012 05:51 PM
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A0276/12 -  A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N392048E0883822 N385938E0882924 N375921E0951801 N371947E0951021 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: GND-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO  FLY INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 15 APR 04:20 2012 UNTIL 15 APR 04:45 2012. CREATED: 14 APR 11:45 2012
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/18/2012 08:42 AM
So many NOTAMs for what seems to be a sub-orbital launch....

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A0299/12 - THE SEGMENT NUKTI-JIAYUGUAN VOR 'CHW' OF ATS RTE B215 CLSD. SFC - UNL, 19 APR 11:45 2012 UNTIL 19 APR 12:20 2012. CREATED: 18 APR 08:15 2012

A0298/12 - THE SEGMENT YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-DENGKOU VOR 'DKO' OF ATS RTE A596 CLSD. SFC - UNL, 19 APR 11:40 2012 UNTIL 19 APR 12:25 2012. CREATED: 18 APR 08:14 2012

A0297/12 - A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N403755E0970643-N403340E0982801-N402537E0982707-N402953E0970607 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 19 APR 11:45 2012 UNTIL 19 APR 12:20 2012. CREATED: 18 APR 08:11 2012

A0296/12 - A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N402917E1030314-N402255E1035920-N394016E1035049-N394630E1025519 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 19 APR 11:40 2012 UNTIL 19 APR 12:25 2012. CREATED: 18 APR 08:09 2012

A0295/12 - A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N395906E1051348-N395505E1054504-N393907E1054131-N394308E1051023 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 19 APR 11:40 2012 UNTIL 19 APR 12:15 2012. CREATED: 18 APR 08:07 2012

A0294/12 - A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED CENTERED AT N385147E1113522 WITH RADIUS OF 10KM. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL. ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 19 APR 11:40 2012 UNTIL 19 APR 12:05 2012. CREATED: 18 APR 08:03 2012
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 04/18/2012 09:22 AM
So many NOTAMs for what seems to be a sub-orbital launch....

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A0299/12 - THE SEGMENT NUKTI-JIAYUGUAN VOR 'CHW' OF ATS RTE B215 CLSD. SFC - UNL, 19 APR 11:45 2012 UNTIL 19 APR 12:20 2012. CREATED: 18 APR 08:15 2012

A0298/12 - THE SEGMENT YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-DENGKOU VOR 'DKO' OF ATS RTE A596 CLSD. SFC - UNL, 19 APR 11:40 2012 UNTIL 19 APR 12:25 2012. CREATED: 18 APR 08:14 2012

A0297/12 - A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N403755E0970643-N403340E0982801-N402537E0982707-N402953E0970607 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 19 APR 11:45 2012 UNTIL 19 APR 12:20 2012. CREATED: 18 APR 08:11 2012

A0296/12 - A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N402917E1030314-N402255E1035920-N394016E1035049-N394630E1025519 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 19 APR 11:40 2012 UNTIL 19 APR 12:25 2012. CREATED: 18 APR 08:09 2012

A0295/12 - A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N395906E1051348-N395505E1054504-N393907E1054131-N394308E1051023 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 19 APR 11:40 2012 UNTIL 19 APR 12:15 2012. CREATED: 18 APR 08:07 2012

A0294/12 - A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED CENTERED AT N385147E1113522 WITH RADIUS OF 10KM. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL. ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 19 APR 11:40 2012 UNTIL 19 APR 12:05 2012. CREATED: 18 APR 08:03 2012
Yes, seemingly from TSLC
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 05/04/2012 06:31 AM
China first women missile launch souvenir cover
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 06/21/2012 06:45 AM
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A0743/12 -  A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED  BY:N412707E1003625-N400802E1084750-N392522E1083852-N404427E1002716  BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO  FLY INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 22 JUN 13:05 2012 UNTIL 22 JUN 14:15 2012. CREATED: 21 JUN 05:44 2012
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 06/21/2012 07:48 AM
Add this one:

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A0744/12 - THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1. B330: GOBIN-YABRAI VOR 'YBL'. 2. V16: ATBUG-DENGKOU VOR 'DKO'. 3. A596: YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-BAOTOU VOR 'BAV'. SFC - UNL, 22 JUN 13:05 2012 UNTIL 22 JUN 14:15 2012. CREATED: 21 JUN 05:52 2012
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 06/21/2012 07:57 AM
These may be interesting too. South-eastern shore of Hainan and nearby seas:

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A0737/12 - A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N181606E1095236-N190336E1102718-N200500E1105236-N200500E1113000-N19 3000E1113000-N190400E1115254- N184236E1115254-N173006E1113648-N172954E1102406-N181606E1095236 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: ELOW 28000M(QNE) THE SEGMENT BUNTA-IKELA OF ATS RTE A1 TEMPORARY ADJUSTED TO BUNTA-POINT A(N171000E1115800)-IKELA, AND FOLLOW ATC INSTRUCTIONS. SFC - UNL, 21 JUN 05:00 2012 UNTIL 21 JUN 10:00 2012. CREATED: 21 JUN 05:16 2012

A0742/12 - A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N181606E1095236-N190336E1102718-N200500E1105236-N200500E1113000-N19 3000E1113000-N190400E1115254-N184236E1115254-N173006E1113648-N17295 4E1102406-N181606E1095236 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: ELOW 28000M(QNE) THE SEGMENT BUNTA-IKELA OF ATS RTE A1 TEMPORARY ADJUSTED TO BUNTA-POINT A(N171000E1115800)-IKELA, AND FOLLOW ATC INSTRUCTIONS. SFC - UNL, 0000-1000 DLY, 22 JUN 00:00 2012 UNTIL 30 JUN 10:00 2012. CREATED: 21 JUN 05:26 2012
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: limen4 on 06/21/2012 08:51 PM
These may be interesting too. South-eastern shore of Hainan and nearby seas:

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A0737/12 - A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N181606E1095236-N190336E1102718-N200500E1105236-N200500E1113000-N19 3000E1113000-N190400E1115254- N184236E1115254-N173006E1113648-N172954E1102406-N181606E1095236 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: ELOW 28000M(QNE) THE SEGMENT BUNTA-IKELA OF ATS RTE A1 TEMPORARY ADJUSTED TO BUNTA-POINT A(N171000E1115800)-IKELA, AND FOLLOW ATC INSTRUCTIONS. SFC - UNL, 21 JUN 05:00 2012 UNTIL 21 JUN 10:00 2012. CREATED: 21 JUN 05:16 2012

A0742/12 - A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY N181606E1095236-N190336E1102718-N200500E1105236-N200500E1113000-N19 3000E1113000-N190400E1115254-N184236E1115254-N173006E1113648-N17295 4E1102406-N181606E1095236 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: ELOW 28000M(QNE) THE SEGMENT BUNTA-IKELA OF ATS RTE A1 TEMPORARY ADJUSTED TO BUNTA-POINT A(N171000E1115800)-IKELA, AND FOLLOW ATC INSTRUCTIONS. SFC - UNL, 0000-1000 DLY, 22 JUN 00:00 2012 UNTIL 30 JUN 10:00 2012. CREATED: 21 JUN 05:26 2012

In May China Air Force held an execise in this area. (http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20120513000098&cid=1101).
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 07/02/2012 10:10 AM
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A0861/12 -  A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED  BY:N413529E1011154-N403149E1093154-N394920E1091955-N405232E1010508  BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO  FLY INTO THE AREA. SFC - UNL, 03 JUL 12:50 2012 UNTIL 03 JUL 14:00 2012. CREATED: 02 JUL 01:52 2012
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 07/26/2012 03:34 PM
Several sharp eye members at 9ifly have found what seems to be a sub-orbital launch of the CZ-2C rocket from Taiyuan at around 16:00 UTC on July 24.

Source (http://www.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=8057&pid=212587&fromuid=19646)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 08/19/2012 10:01 PM
Umm, seems to be even more interesting -- DF-41 first test launch...
http://freebeacon.com/manchu-missile-launch/
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: beidou on 08/19/2012 11:06 PM
Umm, seems to be even more interesting -- DF-41 first test launch...
http://freebeacon.com/manchu-missile-launch/

"the 3,000 miles of underground nuclear tunnels" in the article is like a joke! I cannot believe smart people like Chinese are doing that!
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 08/20/2012 08:11 AM
'Dig deep tunnels, keep vast stores of grain, and never seek hegemony' was the official slogan in Mao epoch...
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: beidou on 08/20/2012 10:18 AM
'Dig deep tunnels, keep vast stores of grain, and never seek hegemony' was the official slogan in Mao epoch...

Aha, found the Chinese version of the slogan - "深挖洞,广积粮,不称霸", but only idiots think they can dig 5,000 km tunnels...
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: beidou on 08/23/2012 08:10 PM
http://freebeacon.com/chinese-missile-tests-continue/
Another missile test by the Chinese military, what the hell are the Americans doing?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Satori on 08/23/2012 09:23 PM
http://freebeacon.com/chinese-missile-tests-continue/
Another missile test by the Chinese military, what the hell are the Americans doing?

"China’s military continued its string of strategic missile flight tests on Monday by firing off a third intercontinental ballistic missile in four weeks", does anyone knows the dates of the previous two missile launches?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: beidou on 08/23/2012 11:47 PM
http://freebeacon.com/chinese-missile-tests-continue/
Another missile test by the Chinese military, what the hell are the Americans doing?

"China’s military continued its string of strategic missile flight tests on Monday by firing off a third intercontinental ballistic missile in four weeks", does anyone knows the dates of the previous two missile launches?

 on July 24th and August 16th
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Satori on 08/24/2012 01:14 PM
http://freebeacon.com/chinese-missile-tests-continue/
Another missile test by the Chinese military, what the hell are the Americans doing?

"China’s military continued its string of strategic missile flight tests on Monday by firing off a third intercontinental ballistic missile in four weeks", does anyone knows the dates of the previous two missile launches?

 on July 24th and August 16th

Thank you beidou!
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: beidou on 09/03/2012 06:41 PM
http://freebeacon.com/chinese-missile-tests-continue/
Another missile test by the Chinese military, what the hell are the Americans doing?

"China’s military continued its string of strategic missile flight tests on Monday by firing off a third intercontinental ballistic missile in four weeks", does anyone knows the dates of the previous two missile launches?

 on July 24th and August 16th

Thank you beidou!
no hay de qué.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Satori on 09/03/2012 06:49 PM
http://freebeacon.com/chinese-missile-tests-continue/
Another missile test by the Chinese military, what the hell are the Americans doing?

"China’s military continued its string of strategic missile flight tests on Monday by firing off a third intercontinental ballistic missile in four weeks", does anyone knows the dates of the previous two missile launches?

 on July 24th and August 16th

Thank you beidou!
no hay de qué.


That's in Spanish  ;D In Portuguese we say 'de nada.' ;)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: beidou on 09/11/2012 11:15 AM
http://freebeacon.com/chinese-missile-tests-continue/
Another missile test by the Chinese military, what the hell are the Americans doing?

"China’s military continued its string of strategic missile flight tests on Monday by firing off a third intercontinental ballistic missile in four weeks", does anyone knows the dates of the previous two missile launches?

 on July 24th and August 16th

Thank you beidou!
no hay de qué.


That's in Spanish  ;D In Portuguese we say 'de nada.' ;)

Spanish and Portuguese are exchangeable, so we still can talk, right??
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Satori on 09/11/2012 11:41 AM
http://freebeacon.com/chinese-missile-tests-continue/
Another missile test by the Chinese military, what the hell are the Americans doing?

"China’s military continued its string of strategic missile flight tests on Monday by firing off a third intercontinental ballistic missile in four weeks", does anyone knows the dates of the previous two missile launches?

 on July 24th and August 16th

Thank you beidou!
no hay de qué.


That's in Spanish  ;D In Portuguese we say 'de nada.' ;)

Spanish and Portuguese are exchangeable, so we still can talk, right??

Yes, we can!!!
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 11/09/2012 12:52 PM
Two more unknown launch times from news.cntv.cn/china/20121014/102306.shtml :

Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/09/2012 01:50 PM
Two more unknown launch times from news.cntv.cn/china/20121014/102306.shtml :



I believe the first one is the launch of Yaogan 8 on December 15, 2009 (02:31 UTC), while the second one is the launch of HY-1B on April 11, 2007 (03:27 UTC).
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 11/09/2012 04:09 PM
I believe the first one is the launch of Yaogan 8 on December 15, 2009 (02:31 UTC), while the second one is the launch of HY-1B on April 11, 2007 (03:27 UTC).
My fault -- added 8 hours instead of subtracting  :o
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 11/09/2012 04:40 PM
How about this NOTAM?
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A1425/12 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.A596:YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-DENGKOU VOR 'DKO'  2.B215:YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-YINCHUAN VOR 'YNC'. 10 NOV 07:20 2012 UNTIL 10 NOV 08:00 2012. CREATED: 09 NOV 12:41 2012
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: beidou on 12/07/2012 10:37 AM
It was reported there was another missle test on Nov. 30.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 01/05/2013 07:07 AM
http://allthingsnuclear.org/is-january-chinese-asat-testing-month/

Is January Chinese ASAT Testing Month?

January 4, 2013
Gregory Kulacki, China project manager and senior analyst

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In 2007 and 2010 China conducted anti-satellite (ASAT) weapons tests, both on January 11. Rumors circulating for the past few months suggest that some within the U.S. defense and intelligence community believe China is preparing to conduct another ASAT test.

The first media report on these rumors appeared in October. China’s Ministry of Defense challenged the information in that report, but in November contacts in China told us an announcement about an upcoming ASAT test was circulated within the Chinese government. We were unable to find a public statement confirming plans for a test in the Chinese media or on publicly accessible Chinese government websites. Then, just before Christmas, a high-ranking U.S. defense official told us that the Obama administration was very concerned about an imminent Chinese ASAT test.

Given these high-level administration concerns, and past Chinese practice, there seems to be a strong possibility China will conduct an ASAT test within the next few weeks. What kind of test and what the target might be is unclear...
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: beidou on 01/15/2013 03:01 PM
http://allthingsnuclear.org/is-january-chinese-asat-testing-month/

Is January Chinese ASAT Testing Month?

January 4, 2013
Gregory Kulacki, China project manager and senior analyst

Quote
In 2007 and 2010 China conducted anti-satellite (ASAT) weapons tests, both on January 11. Rumors circulating for the past few months suggest that some within the U.S. defense and intelligence community believe China is preparing to conduct another ASAT test.

The first media report on these rumors appeared in October. China’s Ministry of Defense challenged the information in that report, but in November contacts in China told us an announcement about an upcoming ASAT test was circulated within the Chinese government. We were unable to find a public statement confirming plans for a test in the Chinese media or on publicly accessible Chinese government websites. Then, just before Christmas, a high-ranking U.S. defense official told us that the Obama administration was very concerned about an imminent Chinese ASAT test.

Given these high-level administration concerns, and past Chinese practice, there seems to be a strong possibility China will conduct an ASAT test within the next few weeks. What kind of test and what the target might be is unclear...

Apparently, there was no such test on Jan 11.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Phillip Clark on 01/15/2013 04:21 PM
Maybe the anti-China brigade will start to claim that there was an ASAT launch but it failed ..........
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: limen4 on 01/16/2013 06:28 AM
On January 12 various Chinese media reported about a salvo launch by PLA Second Artillery of more then 10 missiles. Clearly no Asat related but nevertheless a remarkable event.

And here a video link: http://news.cntv.cn/2013/01/12/VIDE1357989853205208.shtml
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 01/26/2013 07:22 AM

A0048/13 - A TEMPORARY PROHIBITED AREA ESTABLISHED:CENTERED AT N3750E09050, WITH RADIUS OF 200KM, VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO THIS AREA. SFC - UNL, 27 JAN 12:00 2013 UNTIL 27 JAN 13:00 2013. CREATED: 26 JAN 03:02 2013
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: ChileVerde on 01/26/2013 04:49 PM

A0048/13 - A TEMPORARY PROHIBITED AREA ESTABLISHED:CENTERED AT N3750E09050, WITH RADIUS OF 200KM, VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL.ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO THIS AREA. SFC - UNL, 27 JAN 12:00 2013 UNTIL 27 JAN 13:00 2013. CREATED: 26 JAN 03:02 2013

FWIW, there's what appears to be a group of targets some 240 km to the northwest of that, around 39.143 N, 88.617 E. The area has been heavily imaged by DigitalGlobe since 2004 and, somewhat bizarrely, has what appears to be a recently-built model of an Eiffel-like tower at 39.1484 N, 88.5973 E.

Edit: There's another such tower nearby at 39.1491 N, 88.6152 E, next to a heavily impacted target cross.  Instrumentation towers for observing terminal weapons effects???



Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: beidou on 01/27/2013 03:04 PM
An anti-missile test was conducted.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2013-01/27/c_124285256.htm
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 01/27/2013 04:34 PM
More details and images (in Chinese): http://bbs.9ifly.cn/thread-11159-1-1.html
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Victory O on 01/29/2013 12:33 PM
a suitable respond to an earlier US experiment(aprox. 13hrs earlier) ;D
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: beidou on 01/29/2013 04:52 PM
a suitable respond to an earlier US experiment(aprox. 13hrs earlier) ;D

I would rather think it was just an coincidence.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: ChileVerde on 01/29/2013 07:08 PM
a suitable respond to an earlier US experiment(aprox. 13hrs earlier) ;D

I would rather think it was just an coincidence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j7ftfRiWlg
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 04/07/2013 02:20 PM
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A0325/13 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.A596:YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-DENGKOU VOR 'DKO' . 2.B330:YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-GOBIN. 3.W66: DENGKOU VOR 'DKO'-GOBIN. 08 APR 09:50 2013 UNTIL 08 APR 11:00 2013. CREATED: 07 APR 13:52 2013
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 04/11/2013 08:08 PM
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A0338/13 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.A596:YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-DENGKOU VOR 'DKO' . 2.B330:YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-GOBIN. 3.W66: DENGKOU VOR 'DKO'-GOBIN. 0150-0300 0950-1100, 12 APR 01:50 2013 UNTIL 12 APR 11:00 2013. CREATED: 11 APR 13:36 2013
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Victory O on 04/12/2013 03:27 AM
pics......... :D
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 04/12/2013 08:07 PM
pics......... :D
The lower picture (00414588iflp0x9s8spkdk.jpg) was shot April 11 at around 1400 UTC from Beijing looking due West. Some comments on Weibo refer to a possible blow-out of an ICBM upper stage.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/12/2013 08:14 PM
pics......... :D
The lower picture (00414588iflp0x9s8spkdk.jpg) was uploaded on Weibo April 11 at 1414 UTC. It was shot from Beijing looking due West. Some comments refer to a possible blow-out of an ICBM upper stage.

The photo was shot just outside Beijing (north-east side) at 12:39 and 12:44 UTC on April 11. Apparently there was a successful missile test out of TSLC on that night (http://bbs.9ifly.cn/thread-11492-1-1.html) (given the eastern flight path - JL-2?).
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 04/13/2013 08:06 AM
The photo was shot just outside Beijing (north-east side) at 12:39 and 12:44 UTC on April 11. Apparently there was a successful missile test out of TSLC on that night (http://bbs.9ifly.cn/thread-11492-1-1.html) (given the eastern flight path - JL-2?).
These time tags apply to the upper photo.
The lower photo I was  referring to was shot at around 9pm LT according to the guy who uploaded  it on weibo (that would be around 1300UTC, I guess I mixed up the UTC  conversion in my post above)                      
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 04/19/2013 09:22 AM
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A0367/13 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.B215:NUKTI-JIAYUGUAN VOR 'CHW'. 2.G470:BIKNO-DUNHUANG VOR'DNH'. 19 APR 09:10 2013 UNTIL 19 APR 10:10 2013. CREATED: 18 APR 13:44 2013
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 04/21/2013 01:31 PM
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A0379/13 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.B215:NUKTI-JIAYUGUAN VOR 'CHW'. 2.G470:BIKNO-DUNHUANG VOR'DNH'. 22 APR 11:40 2013 UNTIL 22 APR 12:40 2013. CREATED: 21 APR 11:23 2013
A0378/13 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.B330:YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-MORIT 2.W66: EJINAQI VOR'JNQ'-GOBIN-ATBUG. 0150-0300 0950-1100, 22 APR 01:50 2013 UNTIL 22 APR 11:00 2013. CREATED: 21 APR 11:20 2013
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 04/28/2013 05:09 PM
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A0430/13 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS CLSD: 1.Y1: SADAN-MAGOD-DUMIN-LUSMA. 2.Y3: TUSLI-DUMIN. 3.L888: SADAN-TONAX. 4.W112: NOLEP-TUSLI. 0120-0220 0320-0420, 29 APR 01:20 2013 UNTIL 29 APR 04:20 2013. CREATED: 28 APR 11:27 2013
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: beidou on 05/02/2013 11:19 AM
How come there were so many missile tests in China these days? ???
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 05/04/2013 05:22 PM
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THE SEGMENT JIAYUGUAN VOR 'CHW'-YABRAI VOR 'YBL' OF ATS RTE  B215 CLSD. FL000 - FL999, 05 MAY 00:10 2013 UNTIL 05 MAY 02:00 2013. CREATED: 04 MAY 10:53 2013
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 05/06/2013 08:35 PM
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A0462/13 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.Y1: MAGOD - MEPEP . 2.W112: ADMUX -TUSLI. 3.Y3: TUSLI-DUMIN. 07 MAY 02:50 2013 UNTIL 07 MAY 04:00 2013. CREATED: 06 MAY 14:27 2013
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 08/07/2013 11:56 AM
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A1147/13 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:  N400840E0951245-N400501E0962301-N393815E0962031-N394146E0951037  BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL. ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO  FLY INTO THE AREA WITHOUT PERMISSION BY ATC. SFC - UNL, 09 AUG 01:55 2013 UNTIL 09 AUG 02:30 2013. CREATED: 07 AUG 06:12 2013
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 08/07/2013 04:15 PM
A coincidence?

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A1151/13 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N213400E1122500- N211100E1122500-N211100E1123800-N213400E1123800 BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL. ALL ACFT SHALL KEEP 30KM AWAY FROM THE RESTRICTED AREA. SFC - UNL, 09 AUG 01:00 2013 UNTIL 09 AUG 04:00 2013. CREATED: 07 AUG 13:17 2013
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: limen4 on 08/07/2013 08:49 PM
A coincidence?

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A1151/13 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N213400E1122500- N211100E1122500-N211100E1123800-N213400E1123800 BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL. ALL ACFT SHALL KEEP 30KM AWAY FROM THE RESTRICTED AREA. SFC - UNL, 09 AUG 01:00 2013 UNTIL 09 AUG 04:00 2013. CREATED: 07 AUG 13:17 2013
The extensions of both areas are crossing perfectly within Taiyuan launch center area.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 09/06/2013 03:22 PM
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A1383/13 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.B215:JIAYUGUAN VOR 'CHW'-NUKTI. 2.G470:BIKNO-DUNHUANG VOR'DNH'. FL000 - FL999, 07 SEP 01:40 2013 UNTIL 07 SEP 02:40 2013. CREATED: 06 SEP 12:40 2013
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 11/04/2013 01:09 PM
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A1793/13 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.Y1: MAGOD - MEPEP 2.L888: TONAX-LEBAK, 3.W112: ADMUX-TUSLI, 4.Y3: TUSLI-DUMIN. 05 NOV 03:07 2013 UNTIL 05 NOV 04:17 2013. CREATED: 04 NOV 13:57 2013
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 11/04/2013 09:20 PM
There are two of them:

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A1794/13 - THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1. Y1: SADAN-MAGOD, 2. L888: SADAN-TONAX, 3. W112: QIEMO VOR'QIM' -ADMUX. 05 NOV 03:05 2013 UNTIL 05 NOV 04:20 2013. CREATED: 04 NOV 14:18 2013
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 11/08/2013 08:16 AM
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A1816/13 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.G470:DUNHUANG VOR'DNH'- BIKNO 2.B215:NUKTI-N4027.9E09724.1 3.W66:NUKTI-EJINAQI VOR'JNQ'. 08 NOV 10:55 2013 UNTIL 08 NOV 11:25 2013. CREATED: 07 NOV 13:01 2013
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 11/14/2013 07:12 PM
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A1837/13 -  THE SEGMENT AKTOB-TUSLI OF ATS RTE W112 CLSD. 15 NOV 01:00 2013 UNTIL 15 NOV 02:30 2013. CREATED: 14 NOV 15:23 2013
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 11/15/2013 02:19 PM
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A1845/13 -  THE FLW ATS RTES CLSD: 1.Y1: MAGOD-MEPEP. 2.Y3: TUSLI-DUMIN. 3.W112: ADMUX-TUSLI. 4.L888: TONAX-LEBAK. 5.Y2: MEPEP-LUVAR. 16 NOV 08:27 2013 UNTIL 16 NOV 09:37 2013. CREATED: 15 NOV 13:30 2013
Worth noting that the MEPEP-LUVAR closure was notified in past JSLC CZ launches
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/15/2013 02:29 PM
Quote
A1845/13 -  THE FLW ATS RTES CLSD: 1.Y1: MAGOD-MEPEP. 2.Y3: TUSLI-DUMIN. 3.W112: ADMUX-TUSLI. 4.L888: TONAX-LEBAK. 5.Y2: MEPEP-LUVAR. 16 NOV 08:27 2013 UNTIL 16 NOV 09:37 2013. CREATED: 15 NOV 13:30 2013
Worth noting that the MEPEP-LUVAR closure was notified in past JSLC CZ launches

Any past incidences of such for CZ-2D launches?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 11/15/2013 02:36 PM
Quote
A1845/13 -  THE FLW ATS RTES CLSD: 1.Y1: MAGOD-MEPEP. 2.Y3: TUSLI-DUMIN. 3.W112: ADMUX-TUSLI. 4.L888: TONAX-LEBAK. 5.Y2: MEPEP-LUVAR. 16 NOV 08:27 2013 UNTIL 16 NOV 09:37 2013. CREATED: 15 NOV 13:30 2013
Worth noting that the MEPEP-LUVAR closure was notified in past JSLC CZ launches

Any past incidences of such for CZ-2D launches?
Yep: VSSR1 29 Sept 2012  CZ-2D Jiuquan
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 01/07/2014 08:52 PM
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A0007/14 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N391540E1035356-N391655E1044941-N383347E1045100-N383231E1035548 BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL. FOLLOW ATC INSTRUCTIONS. SFC - UNL, 09 JAN 05:55 2014 UNTIL 09 JAN 06:35 2014. CREATED: 07 JAN 09:50 2014
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Satori on 01/07/2014 11:19 PM
Quote
A0007/14 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N391540E1035356-N391655E1044941-N383347E1045100-N383231E1035548 BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL. FOLLOW ATC INSTRUCTIONS. SFC - UNL, 09 JAN 05:55 2014 UNTIL 09 JAN 06:35 2014. CREATED: 07 JAN 09:50 2014

When possible, it would be interesting to have some kind of analysis about the published NOTAM. Thanks!
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 01/17/2014 08:58 PM
Potential missile activity in the Jiuquan area Sunday around noon (LT)
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A0039/14 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N3930E09525-N3930E09655-N4005E09655-N4005E09525 BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS: GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 19 JAN 03:47 2014 UNTIL 19 JAN 04:28 2014. CREATED: 16 JAN 07:16 2014
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 01/18/2014 05:31 AM
Quote
A0007/14 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N391540E1035356-N391655E1044941-N383347E1045100-N383231E1035548 BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL. FOLLOW ATC INSTRUCTIONS. SFC - UNL, 09 JAN 05:55 2014 UNTIL 09 JAN 06:35 2014. CREATED: 07 JAN 09:50 2014

When possible, it would be interesting to have some kind of analysis about the published NOTAM. Thanks!

I wonder if this NOTAM was related to the first WU-14 hypersonic missile test conducted on January 9 as reported in the Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/jan/16/china-tests-hypersonic-missile-vehicle?view=desktop)
See also the dedicated thread:http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=33833.0 (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=33833.0)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 01/19/2014 02:48 PM
Some sections of airways closed Monday during one hour from 12:30pm and 16:30pm (LT)
Possible missile activity


A0058/14 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1. B215: N4027.9E09724.1-NUKTI 2. G470: BIKNO-DUNHUANG VOR'DNH'. 20 JAN 04:30 2014 UNTIL 20 JAN 05:30 2014. CREATED: 19 JAN 12:58 2014

A0059/14 -  THE SEGMENT YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-MORIT OF ATS RTE B330 CLSD. 20 JAN 08:30 2014 UNTIL 20 JAN 09:30 2014. CREATED: 19 JAN 13:00 2014

Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 01/21/2014 07:20 PM
Night time activity, Thursday January 23 from 12:20 am to 1:30 am LT

A0065/14 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF RTE CLSD: 1.B215:YINCHUAN VOR 'YNC'-YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-N3931.2E10157.0 2.B330:GOBIN-YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-N3824.7E10322.7 3.A596:YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-DENGKOU VOR 'DKO'. 22 JAN 16:20 2014 UNTIL 22 JAN 17:30 2014. CREATED: 21 JAN 13:34 2014
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 01/21/2014 07:40 PM
For the record, 2 more for January 19 have lapsed:

A0056/14 - THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.G470:BIKNO-DUNHUANG VOR'DNH'-IGPIT. 2.W112:TUSLI-JIAYUGUAN VOR 'CHW'. 19 JAN 03:45 2014 UNTIL 19 JAN 04:30 2014. CREATED: 18 JAN 12:49 2014

A0057/14 - THE SEGMENT YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-MORIT OF ATS RTE B330 CLSD. 19 JAN 07:50 2014 UNTIL 19 JAN 09:00 2014. CREATED: 18 JAN 12:51 2014
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 03/15/2014 09:47 AM
A0237/14- A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N4000E10216-N4035E10216-N4035E10345-N4000E10345 BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL. SFC - UNL, 16 MAR 01:50 2014 UNTIL 16 MAR 02:25 2014. CREATED: 14 MAR 03:07 2014
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: gosnold on 03/17/2014 07:55 PM
An in-depth analysis of the chinese ASAT tests, especially the last one which went very high:
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2473/1 (http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2473/1)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Dalhousie on 03/18/2014 07:57 PM
An in-depth analysis of the chinese ASAT tests, especially the last one which went very high:
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2473/1 (http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2473/1)

You mean that "test" that probably wasn't anything to do with ASAT except to sinophobes?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: beidou on 03/18/2014 09:09 PM
An in-depth analysis of the chinese ASAT tests, especially the last one which went very high:
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2473/1 (http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2473/1)

You mean that "test" that probably wasn't anything to do with ASAT except to sinophobes?

Thanks for the deep analysis. But why it comes so late??
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: gosnold on 03/19/2014 07:39 PM
An in-depth analysis of the chinese ASAT tests, especially the last one which went very high:
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2473/1 (http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2473/1)

You mean that "test" that probably wasn't anything to do with ASAT except to sinophobes?

Well the article underlines that the rocket was very probably launched from a TEL with an apogee close to GEO, make what you will of that.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 03/27/2014 05:12 AM
A0331/14 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N355224E0983454-N354811E0985737-N361428E0990510-N361842E0984220
BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL. SFC - UNL, 31 MAR 02:35 2014 UNTIL 31
MAR 02:57 2014. CREATED: 27 MAR 03:29 2014

A0332/14 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N331253E0973241-N330323E0982258-N334527E0983435-N335501E0974354
BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL. SFC - UNL, 31 MAR 02:35 2014 UNTIL 31
MAR 03:05 2014. CREATED: 27 MAR 03:32 2014


Mystery satellite launch out of Jiuquan on March 31!? (and would have been during the final countdown of Dragon CRS-3 had the radar fire did not happen!  :o)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 03/28/2014 12:28 PM
These drop zones are the same as those for Shi Jian 11-05 (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32148.msg1073653#msg1073653) launched with CZ-2C on July 15, 2013; so it does look like a new launch with CZ-2C from Jiuquan on March 31



Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 04/23/2014 10:55 AM
A0508/14 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N3939E09508-N4008E09508-N4008E09625-N3939E09625 BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL. FOLLOW ATC INSTRUCTIONS. SFC - UNL, 24 APR 01:50 2014 UNTIL 24 APR 02:34 2014. CREATED: 23 APR 01:20 2014
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Star One on 04/23/2014 12:28 PM
I am novice at this but can anything much be told about the type of launch this will be from that notification?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 04/23/2014 03:13 PM
I am novice at this but can anything much be told about the type of launch this will be from that notification?

The NOTAMed area seems to be aligned with Taiyuan Space launch Center. Could correspond to missile activity.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 06/27/2014 09:11 AM
A0986/14 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N403930E0940201-N403851E0943728-N401717E0943647-N401756E0940119- N402429E0931641-N403516E0931654 BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL. GND - UNL, 29 JUN 03:50 2014 UNTIL 29 JUN 04:32 2014. CREATED: 27 JUN 03:03 2014
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 06/29/2014 08:39 AM
Same time:

Quote
A1000/14 - THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1. G470: BIKNO-COMPULSIVE REPORTING POINT 'DUNHUANG'. 2. ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO AN AREA CENTERED AT COMPULSIVE REPORTING POINT 'DUNHUANG' WITH RADIUS OF 60KM. 29 JUN 03:50 2014 UNTIL 29 JUN 04:40 2014. CREATED: 28 JUN 14:30 2014
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 06/29/2014 10:09 AM
Same time:

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A1000/14 - THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1. G470: BIKNO-COMPULSIVE REPORTING POINT 'DUNHUANG'. 2. ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO AN AREA CENTERED AT COMPULSIVE REPORTING POINT 'DUNHUANG' WITH RADIUS OF 60KM. 29 JUN 03:50 2014 UNTIL 29 JUN 04:40 2014. CREATED: 28 JUN 14:30 2014
"DUNHUANG" VOR (DNH) is at N40 09.9 E094 50.1
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: beidou on 07/09/2014 07:01 PM
Mysterious space launch in China in Tuesday evening, pictures from Microblog can be found here: http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=12913&pid=311361&fromuid=24484
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: anik on 07/09/2014 07:52 PM
Mysterious orbital launch in China in Tuesday evening, pictures from Microblog can be found here: http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=12913&pid=311361&fromuid=24484

Orbital?
I can not see pictures.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 07/09/2014 08:22 PM
Probably another missile intercept.
Event seen in Inner Mongolia and Shandong.

Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: jcm on 07/25/2014 10:23 PM
New report of Chinese missile intercept test http://english.cntv.cn/2014/07/24/ARTI1406168664316445.shtml
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-24/china-says-third-missile-defense-test-in-four-years-successful.html
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 07/26/2014 06:30 PM
New report of Chinese missile intercept test http://english.cntv.cn/2014/07/24/ARTI1406168664316445.shtml (http://english.cntv.cn/2014/07/24/ARTI1406168664316445.shtml)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-24/china-says-third-missile-defense-test-in-four-years-successful.html (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-24/china-says-third-missile-defense-test-in-four-years-successful.html)
The original announcement (in Chinese) from China MoD is at
http://www.mod.gov.cn/auth/2014-07/23/content_4524048.htm (http://www.mod.gov.cn/auth/2014-07/23/content_4524048.htm)

and..
U.S. Says China Tested Anti-satellite Missile (http://news.yahoo.com/us-says-china-tested-anti-satellite-missile-193630285.html)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: beidou on 07/26/2014 10:10 PM
New report of Chinese missile intercept test http://english.cntv.cn/2014/07/24/ARTI1406168664316445.shtml (http://english.cntv.cn/2014/07/24/ARTI1406168664316445.shtml)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-24/china-says-third-missile-defense-test-in-four-years-successful.html (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-24/china-says-third-missile-defense-test-in-four-years-successful.html)
The original announcement (in Chinese) from China MoD is at
http://www.mod.gov.cn/auth/2014-07/23/content_4524048.htm (http://www.mod.gov.cn/auth/2014-07/23/content_4524048.htm)

and..
U.S. Says China Tested Anti-satellite Missile (http://news.yahoo.com/us-says-china-tested-anti-satellite-missile-193630285.html)

Was that indeed an anti-satellite test? Or just missile intercept test as announced by China MoD? 
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: weedenbc on 08/04/2014 01:30 PM
I'll note two things that strike me about this launch.

1) It was the first time since 2007 that the US government has publicly said that China conducted an ASAT test. They did not do so for the tests in Jan 2010 and Jan 2013 even though the Wikileaked cable sent after the 2010 test indicates that they knew full well it was another test of the same SC-19 system as used in 2007 and told China so in their demarche. The US also refrained from calling the May 2013 test of the new system that could potentially reach GEO, but did say that its profile did not match either a missile defense test or a space launch.

2) There was no mention in either the US or Chinese statements of this test about a target. In the Jan 2010 and Jan 2013 tests, both China and the US statements mentioned that there was a second ballistic launch of a target as well as an actual intercept.

The description of this test by China is very similar to the way they described the SC-19 testing in Jan 2010 and Jan 2013. But if this was another test of the same system, why do it if there wasn't a target? What would they gain when they've already tested it multiple times with three successful intercepts?

Could it be that this was NOT another test of the SC-19, but instead the second flight test of the new version that could reach nearly to GEO which I analyzed here:
http://swfound.org/media/167224/Through_a_Glass_Darkly_March2014.pdf

If so, that would account for both the US ability to clearly state that it was an ASAT test and not a missile defense test, AND account for the lack of a second launch of a ballistic target. It would also make sense in terms of the testing profile of a new system (first launch is a test of the rocket along with a science payload, second launch is of the rocket along with the first launch of an interceptor).

I honestly don't have any hard data to back that claim up, but it's the only thing that makes sense to me.

Comments and alternative hypotheses welcome.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: beidou on 08/04/2014 07:31 PM
I'll note two things that strike me about this launch.

1) It was the first time since 2007 that the US government has publicly said that China conducted an ASAT test.

The U.S. government has claimed (loudly!) that China conducted an ASAT test in 2007. I don't think this is the first time it has been saying so.


2) There was no mention in either the US or Chinese statements of this test about a target.

As it was a missile intercept test, there was even no need to state about a target, which was obvious. Otherwise, how come it could be an intercept test?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: weedenbc on 08/04/2014 08:09 PM
The U.S. government has claimed (loudly!) that China conducted an ASAT test in 2007. I don't think this is the first time it has been saying so.

As I said, this is the first time SINCE 2007 the US has labeled such activity an ASAT test, despite other ASAT tests happening in 2005, 2006, 2010, and twice in 2013.

As it was a missile intercept test, there was even no need to state about a target, which was obvious. Otherwise, how come it could be an intercept test?

China did NOT say it was an intercept test, the language they used was an "anti-missile technology test":
http://www.mod.gov.cn/auth/2014-07/23/content_4524048.htm

And the US govt specifically said it was a "non-destructive test":
http://news.yahoo.com/us-says-china-tested-anti-satellite-missile-193630285.html

What value would there be in doing a non-destructive test of a system you've already successfully tested three times with actual intercepts?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Star One on 08/04/2014 09:06 PM
Further analysis of this launch.

Quote
Not everyone is convinced China is developing an ABM system. Hans Kristensen, the director of the Nuclear Information Project for the Federation of American Scientists, is one of them.

“The first [observation] is wondering why China is spending effort and money on developing an anti-ballistic missile defense system given the enormous challenges and expenses the United States and Russia have had to dedicate to their efforts over the years with only partial success to show for it?” He said it seems highly unlikely that Chinese engineers would suddenly be able to overcome those challenges and deploy an effective ABM system.

Kristensen said his second observation is that a Chinese decision to develop and deploy an ABM system seems contradictory to China’s well-known opposition to US missile defense plans in the Pacific. He does not believe that a Chinese missile defense system would be able to counter the advanced and large US and Russian nuclear missile forces. It would be a somewhat different matter with India.

“If Indian military planners concluded that a Chinese ABM system was capable enough to threaten the effectiveness of India’s small nuclear deterrent aimed at China, it could potentially cause Indian planners to increase the number of long-range missiles it plans to deploy to deter China, or, which would be a worrisome and destabilizing development, begin to develop and deploy MIRVed [multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicle] warheads on Indian ballistic missiles to overwhelm a Chinese ABM system,” he said. “In that case, a Chinese ABM system would seem to undermine rather than enhance Chinese security.”

Rest on link.

http://www.defensenews.com/article/20140804/DEFREG03/308040014/China-Developing-Capability-Kill-Satellites-Experts-Say
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: weedenbc on 08/04/2014 09:40 PM
China is not developing an ABM "system". They're developing hit-to-kill midcourse missile defense technology, which is also used for direct ascent ASATs. They're just calling it "missile defense" in public because that's politically acceptable, which ASATs are not.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 08/06/2014 01:52 PM
Something non-trivial?

Quote
A1296/14 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N380256E0910144-N381135E0920925-N380058E0921135-N375219E0910401 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL. FOLLOW ATC INSTRUCTIONS. SFC - UNL, 07 AUG 02:55 2014 UNTIL 07 AUG 03:36 2014. CREATED: 06 AUG 02:23 2014

A1295/14 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N391540E1035356-N391655E1044941-N383347E1045100-N383231E1035548 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL. FOLLOW ATC INSTRUCTIONS. SFC - UNL, 07 AUG 02:55 2014 UNTIL 07 AUG 03:40 2014. CREATED: 06 AUG 02:13 2014
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 08/06/2014 02:03 PM
Something non-trivial?

Quote
A1296/14 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N380256E0910144-N381135E0920925-N380058E0921135-N375219E0910401 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL. FOLLOW ATC INSTRUCTIONS. SFC - UNL, 07 AUG 02:55 2014 UNTIL 07 AUG 03:36 2014. CREATED: 06 AUG 02:23 2014

A1295/14 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N391540E1035356-N391655E1044941-N383347E1045100-N383231E1035548 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC-UNL. FOLLOW ATC INSTRUCTIONS. SFC - UNL, 07 AUG 02:55 2014 UNTIL 07 AUG 03:40 2014. CREATED: 06 AUG 02:13 2014

People on 9ifly is noting that the closure zones looks very much like that of the alleged WU-14 test on January 9 (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=22808.msg1150027#msg1150027).... 
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Satori on 08/08/2014 07:44 AM
Can some of our chinese speaking friends helps us understand the discussion that is going on the 9ifly space forum about a supposed missile launch failure?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 08/08/2014 07:54 AM
Can some of our chinese speaking friends helps us understand the discussion that is going on the 9ifly space forum about a supposed missile launch failure from Jiuquan?

Well there was some confusion on what happened, but it seems that the pictures of a rocket stage (1st stage?) are from yesterday and was NOT launched from Jiuquan as originally guessed (remember that there was supposed to be a satellite launch today?  ;)). The reported site of the rocket stage debris is in Otog, Inner Mongolia (38.92 N, 107.50 E), which does not match with the track that satellite launch is supposed to take.

On the other hand, it DOES fit with the missile launch track out of Taiyuan yesterday. Given the rocket has the standard paint job of satellite launchers, people there are guessing that some kind of sub-orbital test were done by the Long March 2C yesterday towards the west.  ::)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: RLA on 08/10/2014 11:14 AM
Can some of our chinese speaking friends helps us understand the discussion that is going on the 9ifly space forum about a supposed missile launch failure from Jiuquan?

Well there was some confusion on what happened, but it seems that the pictures of a rocket stage (1st stage?) are from yesterday and was NOT launched from Jiuquan as originally guessed (remember that there was supposed to be a satellite launch today?  ;)). The reported site of the rocket stage debris is in Otog, Inner Mongolia (38.92 N, 107.50 E), which does not match with the track that satellite launch is supposed to take.

On the other hand, it DOES fit with the missile launch track out of Taiyuan yesterday. Given the rocket has the standard paint job of satellite launchers, people there are guessing that some kind of sub-orbital test were done by the Long March 2C yesterday towards the west.  ::)
According to a source (and translated to English), it did happened already on the 7 of Augustus. 
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 08/10/2014 04:10 PM
A view of the 2 no fly zones aligned with TSLC and the debris site (N385538E1073046) located on the flight path for the August 7 event.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: RLA on 08/10/2014 05:25 PM
A view of the 2 no fly zones aligned with TSLC and the debris site (N385538E1073046) located on the flight path for the August 7 event.
I did done some fast calculations and I see the distance between TSLC and the place the rocket did crashed is only around 356 kilometers / 221 mile from TSLC.

Can it be likely that the first stage of the rocket (likely a Long march family rocket) did failed somewhere in mid-flight?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Nighthawk on 08/11/2014 01:16 PM
A view of the 2 no fly zones aligned with TSLC and the debris site (N385538E1073046) located on the flight path for the August 7 event.
I did done some fast calculations and I see the distance between TSLC and the place the rocket did crashed is only around 356 kilometers / 221 mile from TSLC.

Can it be likely that the first stage of the rocket (likely a Long march family rocket) did failed somewhere in mid-flight?

Nope, the orbital launch that carried out two days later as planned suggests the test on Aug 7 is a success, because there is no large difference between the 1st stages of the two LVs used (CZ-2C & CZ-4C). If the CZ-2C failed on Aug 7, the CZ fleet would be ground to clarify the problem. That would be long (just imagine how the GF-2 was delayed).

The 'crash', I presume, is a normal ground impact of the separated 1st stage. The engines shut down normally with some residual toxic fuel in tank - only few kilos of such can create a horrible scene like this.

1st stage failure was never seen among the seldom failures of CZ fleet LVs in the past decade.

However, it also confused me why the NOTAM zones did not cover, at least, the impact zone of the 1st stage.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 08/19/2014 03:57 PM
2 interesting NOTAMs
Quote
A1409/14 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.B215: N4027.9E09724.1-NUKTI. 2.G470: BIKNO-DUNHUANG VOR'DNH'. FL000 - FL999, 20 AUG 03:40 2014 UNTIL 20 AUG 04:40 2014. CREATED: 19 AUG 14:57 2014
Quote
A1408/14 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.Y3: TUSLI-DUMIN. 2.W112: ADMUX-TUSLI. 3.L888:TONAX-LEBAK. 4.Y1:MAGOD-N3507.6E10005.6. FL000 - FL999, 20 AUG 02:00 2014 UNTIL 20 AUG 02:50 2014. CREATED: 19 AUG 14:48 2014
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Star One on 08/20/2014 07:50 PM
This article seems appropriate to this thread regarding this recent test.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-secretly-conducts-second-flight-test-of-new-ultra-high-speed-missile/

Be interested to hear whether people agree with its analysis or not as it would be nice too hear a second opinion on the matter.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 08/21/2014 07:47 AM
This article seems appropriate to this thread regarding this recent test.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-secretly-conducts-second-flight-test-of-new-ultra-high-speed-missile/

Be interested to hear whether people agree with its analysis or not as it would be nice too hear a second opinion on the matter.
Seasoned Chinese blogger kktt also believes this was the second test flight of WU-14 reentry glide vehicle due to the similarity of the NOTAM with that for the January 9, 2014 event
http://liuqiankktt.blog.163.com/blog/static/12126421120147113174826/
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Star One on 08/21/2014 12:51 PM

This article seems appropriate to this thread regarding this recent test.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-secretly-conducts-second-flight-test-of-new-ultra-high-speed-missile/

Be interested to hear whether people agree with its analysis or not as it would be nice too hear a second opinion on the matter.
Seasoned Chinese blogger kktt also believes this was the second test flight of WU-14 reentry glide vehicle due to the similarity of the NOTAM with that for the January 9, 2014 event
http://liuqiankktt.blog.163.com/blog/static/12126421120147113174826/

Thank you for that secondary source.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: weedenbc on 08/21/2014 01:24 PM
I think there's enough evidence to suggest that China is doing some degree of testing of hypersonics, but beyond that I wouldn't put a lot of faith in the rest of the claims made in the Gertz piece.

Gertz claims that these two tests prove this is a "high priority" system for China and Fisher claims that they pose a "near-term strategic threat" to the US. However, the US has also done multiple tests of hypersonic glide vehicles (as Gertz points out towards the end) yet Prompt Global Strike is far from a top priority of the US and the technology has a long ways to go before it will be militarily useful. Details:
http://fas.org/sgp/crs/nuke/R41464.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypersonic_Technology_Vehicle_2

As far as the claim that this test "accelerates China’s development timeline exponentially", I don't think the person cited understands what exponential means. It's also not clear to me what piece of this is related to China's ASAT testing, other than just firing off rockets.

American testing and development of hypersonics and PGS has caused significant concern in Russia and China, but of course the US position is that those technologies don't pose a threat to those countries:
http://carnegieendowment.org/2013/10/04/conventional-prompt-global-strike-and-russia-s-nuclear-forces
http://poniforum.csis.org/blog/blurred-lines-the-threat-of-conventional-prompt-global-strike-to-

Yet then we see in the Gertz piece a quote from Fuell stating that the US has "great concern...if [China] were to apply the same technology and capability with a conventional warhead or even just without a warhead because of the kinetic energy that it has."

I know plenty of smart people on China that have concluded this is largely just China mirroring and hedging - China is interested in this technology because the US is interested in it. It sees the US investing money and effort and so concludes that there must be something of value there.

As is usually the case with China, divining "the truth" in all this can be extremely difficult.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Star One on 08/21/2014 01:50 PM
Again thank you for your analysis, that piece I linked to did seem to carry a particular bias in its prospective so I was interested to hear a secondary view on it.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: weedenbc on 08/22/2014 05:04 PM
Also see this story:

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1578756/chinas-second-test-nuclear-armed-hypersonic-glider-fails

I think an interesting question is what rocket they're using for this. I would not be surprised to find that it was a variant of an existing mobile ballistic missile, perhaps even the DF-21.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Star One on 08/22/2014 05:26 PM
Thanks for the link it looks like they are having as much trouble as the US has had in the past with their various hypersonic tests.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: jcm on 08/22/2014 05:51 PM
Also see this story:

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1578756/chinas-second-test-nuclear-armed-hypersonic-glider-fails

I think an interesting question is what rocket they're using for this. I would not be surprised to find that it was a variant of an existing mobile ballistic missile, perhaps even the DF-21.

For a military test I would indeed have expected this.
But the DF-21 is solid propellant, no? This vehicle is clearly N2O4 based, so the suggestion that it is CZ-2C seems reasonable.
Which makes me wonder... perhaps another interpretation is that this is a civilian hypersonic spaceplane-technology
test flight (like the Soviet BOR-5 suborbital mini-shuttle test flights) - that would make more sense with the use of the
space launch vehicle. I'm not saying that this interpretation is *more* likely than the military reentry vehicle one, but we don't know what the Pentagon is basing its analysis on and they are obviously going to lean to the military assumption  if there is any ambiguity. "Wu-14" looks like a US military designation to me (14th kind of launch vehicle from the site that the US military calls Wuzhai), the Chinese bloggers are probably just riffing off Gertz, so I don't think we have any evidence either way for the exact nature of the payload.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: weedenbc on 08/22/2014 06:01 PM
I'm not sure if it uses solid or liquid. I know the US version (DARPA's HTV) uses a Minotaur IV as the booster (which is in turn based on the Minuteman ICBM) and I just assumed that China would using something similar considering the very similar flight profile.

Given that the hypersonic technology is "DARPA hard", I'm really skeptical about this being any sort of commercial activity. I haven't seen anything like this from any of the US commercial spacelaunch companies, so it's really hard to imagine it coming from a Chinese company.

Most likely the US assessment is based off the flight profile. It would be pretty easy for them to track the rocket launch and then the hypersonic glide using IR sensors. And that is a very unique profile that sets it apart from space launches as well as ballistic missile tests.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: jcm on 08/22/2014 06:06 PM
I'm not sure if it uses solid or liquid. I know the US version (DARPA's HTV) uses a Minotaur IV as the booster (which is in turn based on the Minuteman ICBM) and I just assumed that China would using something similar considering the very similar flight profile.

Given that the hypersonic technology is "DARPA hard", I'm really skeptical about this being any sort of commercial activity. I haven't seen anything like this from any of the US commercial spacelaunch companies, so it's really hard to imagine it coming from a Chinese company.

Most likely the US assessment is based off the flight profile. It would be pretty easy for them to track the rocket launch and then the hypersonic glide using IR sensors. And that is a very unique profile that sets it apart from space launches as well as ballistic missile tests.

I wasn't saying commercial, but civil government space, with the glide portion representing a space shuttle reentry - not clear to me that is set apart from the weapon profile.

And DF-21 is solid, AFAIK the only liquid large vehicles in use are the Long March series.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: weedenbc on 08/22/2014 06:19 PM
I wasn't saying commercial, but civil government space, with the glide portion representing a space shuttle reentry - not clear to me that is set apart from the weapon profile.

I'm not sure there is such a thing as "civil government spaceflight" in China, but in any case my impression is that this is a noticeably different sort of "glide" from either the Shuttle or something like the X-37B. From what I've been told, it more or less "skips" through the upper atmosphere to try and maintain altitude instead of moving along a smooth, constantly descending glide path. Another clue that they are different is that a re-entry glide is  basically a solved problem whereas this hypersonic glide seems to be very difficult.

But honestly, it's hard to tell for certain given the limited information available.

And DF-21 is solid, AFAIK the only liquid large vehicles in use are the Long March series.

Right - I mentioned the DF-21 because I assumed the Chinese would be using a solid booster for this application like the US is with the Minotaur. Was there a reference to them using a liquid booster somewhere that I missed?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Kryten on 08/22/2014 06:24 PM
Right - I mentioned the DF-21 because I assumed the Chinese would be using a solid booster for this application like the US is with the Minotaur. Was there a reference to them using a liquid booster somewhere that I missed?
Look back at page 9; debris's been found from an apparent suborbital flight of a liquid-fueled booster. This test is the best match.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: jcm on 08/22/2014 06:25 PM


Right - I mentioned the DF-21 because I assumed the Chinese would be using a solid booster for this application like the US is with the Minotaur. Was there a reference to them using a liquid booster somewhere that I missed?

The BFRC   (Big F**g Red Cloud) in the images of the first stage crash site is a clue.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: weedenbc on 08/22/2014 06:28 PM
Ok, now I've got it. Somehow I missed that whole post entirely. So yeah, liquid-fueled rocket  :)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 08/22/2014 07:04 PM
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Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Star One on 08/22/2014 07:18 PM
This article makes it quite clear that the attempted hypersonic launch was military in nature.

http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20140822/192253295/Chinas-Hypersonic-Aircraft-Fails-Second-Test-Launch.html
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 08/23/2014 06:53 AM
This article makes it quite clear that the attempted hypersonic launch was military in nature.

http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20140822/192253295/Chinas-Hypersonic-Aircraft-Fails-Second-Test-Launch.html
The original article on the reported WU-14 test failure by the South China Morning Post is at
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1578756/chinas-second-test-nuclear-armed-hypersonic-glider-fails
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: weedenbc on 09/04/2014 05:56 PM
A really good open source analysis of this launch (and what a spectacular failure it was) was just posted here:

http://lewis.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/7443/crashing-glider-hidden-hotspring
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Star One on 09/04/2014 06:08 PM

A really good open source analysis of this launch (and what a spectacular failure it was) was just posted here:

http://lewis.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/7443/crashing-glider-hidden-hotspring

Impressive piece of analysis so thanks for posting the link.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Kryten on 09/04/2014 09:28 PM
A really good open source analysis of this launch (and what a spectacular failure it was) was just posted here:

http://lewis.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/7443/crashing-glider-hidden-hotspring
The implication of booster failure makes no sense at all. All existing long-march series vehicles have almost identical first and second stages, differing only by slight engine variants or tank stretches. But the Chinese performed a launch (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=34397.0) the day after this test! That's not enough time to even find the cause of a failure, nevermind fix it.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: hop on 09/05/2014 03:29 AM
The implication of booster failure makes no sense at all.
Less sense than the Chinese intentionally dropping a booster with a bunch of hypergolics on board in a populated area, well outside of their published notams? Within view of a luxury resort where people would take pictures and post them on the net?
Quote
All existing long-march series vehicles have almost identical first and second stages, differing only by slight engine variants or tank stretches. But the Chinese performed a launch (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=34397.0) the day after this test! That's not enough time to even find the cause of a failure, nevermind fix it.
That depends on the failure. It might have been obviously connected to something specific to the test.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 09/09/2014 09:17 PM
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Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: jcm on 09/10/2014 03:18 AM
The implication of booster failure makes no sense at all.
Less sense than the Chinese intentionally dropping a booster with a bunch of hypergolics on board in a populated area, well outside of their published notams? Within view of a luxury resort where people would take pictures and post them on the net?
Quote
All existing long-march series vehicles have almost identical first and second stages, differing only by slight engine variants or tank stretches. But the Chinese performed a launch (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=34397.0) the day after this test! That's not enough time to even find the cause of a failure, nevermind fix it.
That depends on the failure. It might have been obviously connected to something specific to the test.

An obvious possibility is a fairing failure  - if the (very mission specific) nose crumples, the rocket is toast but
it's clearly not a rocket issue
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 09/16/2014 11:39 AM
Activity planned to-night:
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Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Stan Black on 09/16/2014 09:26 PM
The implication of booster failure makes no sense at all.
Less sense than the Chinese intentionally dropping a booster with a bunch of hypergolics on board in a populated area, well outside of their published notams? Within view of a luxury resort where people would take pictures and post them on the net?
Quote
All existing long-march series vehicles have almost identical first and second stages, differing only by slight engine variants or tank stretches. But the Chinese performed a launch (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=34397.0) the day after this test! That's not enough time to even find the cause of a failure, nevermind fix it.
That depends on the failure. It might have been obviously connected to something specific to the test.

An obvious possibility is a fairing failure  - if the (very mission specific) nose crumples, the rocket is toast but
it's clearly not a rocket issue

How much commonality is there between these rockets; they are manufactured at two locations? Also fairing failure did not stop a CZ2E?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 09/21/2014 05:01 PM
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Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 09/21/2014 05:27 PM
A1782 seems not to be related to A1783?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 09/24/2014 06:21 AM
Missile out of Jiuquan? Or....  :-\

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Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 10/12/2014 04:47 PM
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Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: plutogno on 11/08/2014 03:08 PM
this paper has a few info of hypersonic vehicle shapes tested in China (even including some wind tunnel model pics): The stability analysis of rolling motion of hypersonic vehicles and its validations

http://phys.scichina.com:8083/sciGe/EN/abstract/abstract509421.shtml
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 12/13/2014 02:35 PM
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Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 01/17/2015 07:12 PM
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Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 01/26/2015 04:12 PM
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Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: JimO on 05/31/2015 08:43 PM
Was there a Chinese space launch May 23?

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20150526000061&cid=1101
On May 23, internet users from different parts of northwestern China including Ningxia, Shaanxi and Inner Mongolia said they witnessed an unidentified flying object in the sky, with many suspecting it to be a new spacecraft or missile, reports state-run Global Times. The event took place the night of May 23.

ADD Five photos..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/peoplesdaily/article-3097803/Theories-abound-thousands-spot-bizarre-pattern-sky-China.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

No videos. Still might be an a/c contrail.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/01/2015 04:31 AM
Was there a Chinese space launch May 23?

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20150526000061&cid=1101
On May 23, internet users from different parts of northwestern China including Ningxia, Shaanxi and Inner Mongolia said they witnessed an unidentified flying object in the sky, with many suspecting it to be a new spacecraft or missile, reports state-run Global Times. The event took place the night of May 23.

ADD Five photos..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/peoplesdaily/article-3097803/Theories-abound-thousands-spot-bizarre-pattern-sky-China.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

No videos. Still might be an a/c contrail.

Sounds like a missile test to me given the list of places, and that the contrail seems to be towards the NW. Someone might check the NOTAM for that day to clear things up.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Satori on 06/04/2015 10:59 AM
Was there a Chinese space launch May 23?

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20150526000061&cid=1101
On May 23, internet users from different parts of northwestern China including Ningxia, Shaanxi and Inner Mongolia said they witnessed an unidentified flying object in the sky, with many suspecting it to be a new spacecraft or missile, reports state-run Global Times. The event took place the night of May 23.

ADD Five photos..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/peoplesdaily/article-3097803/Theories-abound-thousands-spot-bizarre-pattern-sky-China.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

No videos. Still might be an a/c contrail.

Sounds like a missile test to me given the list of places, and that the contrail seems to be towards the NW. Someone might check the NOTAM for that day to clear things up.

Nothing new about this event?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/07/2015 06:26 AM
Something out of Taiyuan flying straight west that should had happened already:

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JUN 04:01 2015. CREATED: 05 JUN 03:00 2015


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JUN 04:05 2015. CREATED: 05 JUN 02:59 2015
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 06/11/2015 06:18 PM
Seems to be this one: http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-conducts-fourth-test-of-wu-14-strike-vehicle/
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 07/08/2015 04:55 PM
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Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 07/18/2015 08:34 AM
3 zone closures on the 20th pointing north-west from TSLC - I presume that this isn't spaceflight related.  ;)

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Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 07/18/2015 01:21 PM
and another one to add to the list
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Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 07/19/2015 12:44 PM
Moved up by about an hour or so:

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Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Satori on 08/12/2015 12:45 PM
According to armyrecognition.com, China may have conducted an ICBM (DF-41) test on August 5, 2015.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Skyrocket on 08/12/2015 12:57 PM
According to armyrecognition.com, China may have conducted an ICBM (DF-41) test on August 5, 2015.

Reportedly it was a dual launch of a DF-41 and a DF-5
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Nighthawk on 08/14/2015 08:47 AM
According to armyrecognition.com, China may have conducted an ICBM (DF-41) test on August 5, 2015.
Hey guys,
I really doubt the plausibleness of such report, which reads as:

"According to sources in China citing several witnesses, an ICBM was successfully tested for the fourth time on August 5 2015. If the reports are accurate, this means that..."

There are no other report on this with independent source - at least to my knowledge - not to mention whether the sources/witnesses are accurate. No report from Washington Free Beacon, which may have direct intelligence feed from the pentagon.

Firing an ICBM into the sky is not something easy to conceal; DF-41 is a solid motor design with plume highly visible on the ground. We haven't seen any amateur photo of plume or 'UFO' either.

*update*
yes now the Free Beacon report ::)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 08/17/2015 01:38 PM
A2271/15 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N403148E1042317-N402324E1051854-N394106E1050741-N394926E1041236 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 19 AUG 03:23 2015 UNTIL 19 AUG 04:05 2015. CREATED: 17 AUG 10:22 2015
A2272/15 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N411543E0955700-N411001E0970820-N405356E0970556-N405935E0955454 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 19 AUG 03:25 2015 UNTIL 19 AUG 04:00 2015. CREATED: 17 AUG 10:25 2015
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Satori on 08/22/2015 09:04 AM
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-conducts-fifth-test-of-hypersonic-glide-vehicle/

China this week carried out another test of a new high-tech hypersonic glide vehicle, an ultra high-speed missile designed to deliver nuclear weapons and avoid defenses.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 08/22/2015 04:06 PM
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-conducts-fifth-test-of-hypersonic-glide-vehicle/ (http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-conducts-fifth-test-of-hypersonic-glide-vehicle/)

China this week carried out another test of a new high-tech hypersonic glide vehicle, an ultra high-speed missile designed to deliver nuclear weapons and avoid defenses.

Apparently the above NOTAMs for August 19 (A2271 & A2272) were linked to this reported Wu-14 test
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 08/23/2015 01:40 PM
Actually the Wu-14 test was delayed one day and occurred on August 20 UTC (Wednesday August 19 EDT)
http://liuqiankktt.blog.163.com/blog/static/12126421120157221428539/
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 10/12/2015 04:00 PM
A2905/15 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.B330: YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-MORIT. 2.W66:  DENGKOU VOR 'DKO'-EJINAQI VOR'JNQ'. 13 OCT 10:20 2015 UNTIL 13 OCT 11:40 2015. CREATED: 12 OCT 13:50 2015
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 10/15/2015 09:23 PM
Imaged on Oct 14, 12:15 Beijing time:

(http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/a2f5d2d3jw1ex0jioeb53j20dc0hs3z7.jpg)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 10/21/2015 04:13 PM
A3038/15 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.B330: YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-GOBIN. 2.W66:  DENGKOU VOR 'DKO'-GOBIN. 22 OCT 10:20 2015 UNTIL 22 OCT 11:30 2015. CREATED: 21 OCT 12:53 2015

A3106/15 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.B330: YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-GOBIN. 2.W66:  EJINAQI VOR 'JNQ'-GOBIN. 26 OCT 08:55 2015 UNTIL 26 OCT 10:00 2015. CREATED: 25 OCT 12:49 2015
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 10/30/2015 06:27 PM
A missile launch or a satellite reservation?

A3208/15 - THE SEGMENT MEPEP-LUVAR OF ATS RTE Y2 CLSD. 31 OCT 23:50 2015 UNTIL 01 NOV 01:00 2015. CREATED: 30 OCT 09:35 2015
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 10/30/2015 07:36 PM
You also have this one:
A3212/15 -  THE SEGMENT NUKTI-N4027.9E09724.1 OF ATS RTE B215 CLSD. 31 OCT 04:00 2015 UNTIL 31 OCT 04:50 2015. CREATED: 30 OCT 14:04 2015
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 10/30/2015 07:59 PM
A missile launch or a satellite reservation?

A3208/15 - THE SEGMENT MEPEP-LUVAR OF ATS RTE Y2 CLSD. 31 OCT 23:50 2015 UNTIL 01 NOV 01:00 2015. CREATED: 30 OCT 09:35 2015
This one could correspond to an SSO satellite launch from JSLC (example of flight path is that for SJ 11-2)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 10/31/2015 09:16 AM
New area aligned with TSLC (missile launch?)
A3215/15 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED: 10KM ENLARGE OUTSIDE FROM THE AREA BOUNDED BY N393556E1082653-N392550E1092109-N391005E1091611-N392009E1082206 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. SFC - UNL, 03 NOV 10:30 2015 UNTIL 03 NOV 10:55 2015. CREATED: 31 OCT 04:09 2015
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 10/31/2015 07:10 PM
An edited NOTAM for the morning of November 1 (local time) compatible with SSO sat launch from JSLC
(fairings from CZ-2D have fallen in this area)

A3217/15 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1. Y2: MEPEP-LUVAR. 2. L888: MUMAN-SANLI. 31 OCT 23:40 2015 UNTIL 01 NOV 01:00 2015. CREATED: 31 OCT 14:16 2015
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: limen4 on 11/02/2015 03:59 PM
A missile launch or a satellite reservation?

A3208/15 - THE SEGMENT MEPEP-LUVAR OF ATS RTE Y2 CLSD. 31 OCT 23:50 2015 UNTIL 01 NOV 01:00 2015. CREATED: 30 OCT 09:35 2015

It seems an ABM test where the Korla test range was involved belongs to this NOTAM. Impressive images can be seen at http://bbs.tiexue.net/post2_9849825_1.html.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 11/02/2015 06:05 PM
Here too, for forum members: http://www.9ifly.cn/forum-8-1.html

Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 11/15/2015 07:02 PM
A3380/15 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N410757E0961423-N410211E0973233-N402956E0972807-N403540E0961034 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 16 NOV 02:06 2015 UNTIL 16 NOV 02:45 2015. CREATED: 15 NOV 12:56 2015
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 11/20/2015 09:32 PM
A3416/15 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N411543E0955700-N411001E0970820-N405356E0970556-N405935E0955454 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 23 NOV 04:55 2015 UNTIL 23 NOV 05:35 2015. CREATED: 18 NOV 08:56 2015
A3415/15 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N403148E1042317-N402324E1051854-N394106E1050741-N394926E1041236 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 23 NOV 04:53 2015 UNTIL 23 NOV 05:40 2015. CREATED: 18 NOV 08:53 2015
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 11/30/2015 02:39 AM
DF-ZF (formerly WU-14) test on 23 November.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-again-tests-nuclear-hypersonic-missile/
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: beidou on 11/30/2015 06:40 PM
DF-ZF (formerly WU-14) test on 23 November.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-again-tests-nuclear-hypersonic-missile/

Does anyone know what ZF stand for? I guess DF is for Dongfeng, which is relatively obvious.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Skyrocket on 11/30/2015 07:33 PM
DF-ZF (formerly WU-14) test on 23 November.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-again-tests-nuclear-hypersonic-missile/

Does anyone know what ZF stand for? I guess DF is for Dongfeng, which is relatively obvious.

is "DF-ZF" the designation only of the reentry vehicle or of the whole missle?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: russianhalo117 on 12/01/2015 02:28 AM
DF-ZF (formerly WU-14) test on 23 November.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-again-tests-nuclear-hypersonic-missile/

Does anyone know what ZF stand for? I guess DF is for Dongfeng, which is relatively obvious.

is "DF-ZF" the designation only of the reentry vehicle or of the whole missle?
my guess is gonna be the later
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 12/03/2015 06:51 AM
NOTAMed area for Dec 4 aligned with TSLC
A3553/15 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N404100E1015512-N401152E1045504-N394016E1044540-N395330E1031232-N40 2046E1001301-N405240E1002036 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 04 DEC 03:22 2015 UNTIL 04 DEC 04:13 2015. CREATED: 03 DEC 07:17 2015
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 12/12/2015 05:11 PM
A3639/15 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.Y1: MAGOD-LUSMA. 2.Y3: RUSDI-DUMIN. 3.W112: AKTOB-ADMUX. 4.L888: TONAX-LEBAK 5.G470: AKTOB-DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'-BIKNO. 13 DEC 10:30 2015 UNTIL 13 DEC 11:40 2015. CREATED: 12 DEC 11:49 2015
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 12/18/2015 05:37 PM
A3694/15 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1. W66:  NUKTI-EJINAQI VOR 'JNQ'. 2. B215: NUKTI-N4027.9E09724.1. 3. G470: DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'-BIKNO. 19 DEC 03:10 2015 UNTIL 19 DEC 04:10 2015. CREATED: 18 DEC 12:58 2015
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 12/20/2015 01:07 PM
A3697/15 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1. Y3: RUSDI-DUMIN. 2. W112:AKTOB-ADMUX. 21 DEC 05:50 2015 UNTIL 21 DEC 06:15 2015. CREATED: 20 DEC 12:36 2015
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 12/23/2015 06:46 AM
NOTAMed areas for Dec 24 aligned with TSLC

A3710/15 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N393550E1082320-N392412E1093133-N385755E1092351-N390928E1081603 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 24 DEC 01:50 2015 UNTIL 24 DEC 02:28 2015. CREATED: 23 DEC 06:29 2015
A3711/15
-  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N410036E0875239-N410036E0890405-N403340E0890350-N403340E0875254 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 24 DEC 01:56 2015 UNTIL 24 DEC 02:34 2015. CREATED: 23 DEC 06:31 2015
A3712/15 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N411549E0864343-N412450E0865605-N410918E0871600-N410020E0870338 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 24 DEC 01:56 2015 UNTIL 24 DEC 02:32 2015. CREATED: 23 DEC 06:33 2015
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 12/26/2015 07:55 PM
A3742/15 -  ALL ACFT SHALL BE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE AREA WITHIN A CIRCLE CENTERED AT DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH' WITH RADIUS OF 60KM. 27 DEC 01:45 2015 UNTIL 27 DEC 02:45 2015. CREATED: 26 DEC 13:03 2015

A3741/15 -  THE SEGMENT DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'-BIKNO OF ATS RTE G470 CLSD. 27 DEC 01:45 2015 UNTIL 27 DEC 02:45 2015. CREATED: 26 DEC 12:54 2015

A3740/15 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N401715E0935522-N401715E0943746-N403934E0943746-N403934E0935522-N40 3516E0931655-N402429E0931641 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 27 DEC 01:55 2015 UNTIL 27 DEC 02:35 2015. CREATED: 26 DEC 09:05 2015
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 12/31/2015 10:25 AM
"China Confirms Recent Anti-Satellite Test"
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-confirms-recent-anti-satellite-test/

Quoting http://digitalpaper.stdaily.com/http_www.kjrb.com/kjrb/html/2015-12/07/content_325861.htm?div=-1 (in Chinese)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: weedenbc on 12/31/2015 01:36 PM
Gertz' headline overstates the "confirmation" of the test, but that interview makes it very clear that China is absolutely developing kinetic hit-to-kill technology to take out exoatmospheric targets.

From Google translate:

Quote
Zhou Derong said atmospheric interceptor missile hit a kinetic interceptor missiles, rocket-propulsion systems and as a kinetic kill vehicle warhead composed tremendous kinetic energy generated by means of high-speed flight warhead by direct collision to destroy military targets outside the atmosphere weapons systems, mainly used to intercept ballistic missiles and other military targets, such as satellites. Kinetic energy interceptor missiles outside the atmosphere the key is whether the kinetic kill vehicle to the target height, can accurately capture and targets. There are six key technologies: First rocket propulsion technology, and second, capturing precise steering characteristics of the signal information technology goals, the third is the processing seeker information and high-speed signal processor technology, the four is to determine velocity kinetic kill itself and the attitude of the inertial measurement unit and technology, five are used to calculate kinetic kill vehicle guidance and flight path correction calculation of high-speed data processor and technology, six are making rapid mobility of kinetic kill vehicle attitude and orbit control systems and technology.

Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Liss on 01/14/2016 04:56 PM
Something of interest?

Quote
A0048/16 - THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.Y1: SADAN-MAGOD. 2.L888: SADAN-TONAX. 3.W112: HOTAN VOR 'HTN'-ADMUX. 15 JAN 11:15 2016 UNTIL 15 JAN 12:26 2016. CREATED: 14 JAN 13:32 2016

A0047/16 - THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.L888: TONAX -MUMAN. 2.B215: NUKTI-JIAYUGUAN VOR 'CHW'. 3.W112: JIAYUGUAN VOR 'CHW'- ADMUX. 4.Y3:RUSDI-DUMIN. 5.G470: DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'-UPDOP. 6.Y1:MAGOD- LUSMA. 15 JAN 11:16 2016 UNTIL 15 JAN 12:26 2016. CREATED: 14 JAN 13:27 2016
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: beidou on 01/23/2016 11:33 PM
A0078/16 NOTAMN
Q) ZLHW/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/3957N09552E024
A) ZLHW B) 1601230217 C) 1601230256
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N394302E0951309-N401020E0951309-N401020E0963113-N394302E0963113
BACK TO START.
VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Phillip Clark on 03/01/2016 02:15 PM
Is it about time to give this thread another name?   For example "Chinese sub-orbital launches".
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 04/10/2016 02:33 PM
A0707/16 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N394230E1074214-N393220E1083634-N390050E1082634-N391057E1073237 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. SFC - UNL, 12 APR 01:10 2016 UNTIL 12 APR 01:20 2016. CREATED: 10 APR 08:28 2016
A0708/16- A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N394719E1070819-N393428E1081615-N390301E1080607-N391546E1065840 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. SFC - UNL, 12 APR 01:10 2016 UNTIL 12 APR 01:20 2016. CREATED: 10 APR 08:30 2016

Corresponds probably to Taiyuan activity April 12, 01:10-01:20 UTC
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Satori on 04/10/2016 02:36 PM

Corresponds probably to Taiyuan activity April 12, 01:10-01:20 UTC

There were rumors of a possible orbital launch from Taiyuan this month.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/10/2016 02:58 PM

Corresponds probably to Taiyuan activity April 12, 01:10-01:20 UTC

There were rumors of a possible orbital launch from Taiyuan this month.

Except that they never go north-west.  ;)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: anik on 04/10/2016 02:59 PM
There were rumors of a possible orbital launch from Taiyuan this month

Yes, but not in this direction.

Maybe it is DF-ZF.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Satori on 04/10/2016 03:18 PM

Corresponds probably to Taiyuan activity April 12, 01:10-01:20 UTC

There were rumors of a possible orbital launch from Taiyuan this month.

Except that they never go north-west.  ;)

Ah! Didn't noticed that! Thanks!
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 04/10/2016 03:37 PM
Or could it be Jiuquan activity ::)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Satori on 04/19/2016 05:15 PM
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-flight-tests-multiple-warhead-missile/

"China conducted another flight test of its newest and longest-range intercontinental ballistic missile last week amid growing tensions with the United States over the South China Sea.

Pentagon officials told the Free Beacon the flight test of the new road-mobile DF-41 missile took place Tuesday with two multiple, independently targetable reentry vehicles, or MIRVs, that were monitored in flight by U.S. military satellites and other regional sensors."
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Satori on 04/21/2016 05:02 PM
Another hypersonic test?

0851/16 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:

N411543E0955700-N411001E0970820-N405356E0970556-N405935E0955454

BACK TO START. GND - UNL,

22 APR 02:55 2016 UNTIL 22 APR 03:30 2016.

CREATED:21 APR 08:39 2016

A0850/16 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:

N403148E1042317-N402324E1051854-N394106E1050741-N394926E1041236

BACK TO START. GND - UNL,

22 APR 02:54 2016 UNTIL 22 APR 03:35 2016.

CREATED:21 APR 08:37 2016

A0854/16 - THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD:

1.B215: NUKTI-N4027.9E09724.1.

2.A596: YABRAI VOR 'YBL'- DENGKOU VOR 'DKO'.

22 APR 02:50 2016 UNTIL 22 APR 04:05 2016.

CREATED: 21 APR 13:39 2016
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: plutogno on 04/27/2016 05:41 AM
Xinhua on Twitter is reporting the successful launch of a Kunpeng-1B sounding rocket from Hainan island
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Lewis007 on 04/27/2016 07:17 AM
Xinhua on Twitter is reporting the successful launch of a Kunpeng-1B sounding rocket from Hainan island

Here's the Xinhua news report with some additional photos.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2016-04/27/c_135316409.htm
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: baldusi on 04/27/2016 11:25 AM
So they are getting range practice with sounding rockets before orbital launches like they do in Alcantara?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Phillip Clark on 04/27/2016 03:03 PM
So they are getting range practice with sounding rockets before orbital launches like they do in Alcantara?

The first flights of sounding rockets that I recall from Hainan Island were the Weaver Girl rockets in the late 1980s.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Skyrocket on 04/27/2016 04:13 PM
So they are getting range practice with sounding rockets before orbital launches like they do in Alcantara?

AFAIK, the Hainan sounding rocket site is not the Wenchang orbital launch site. The sounding rockets are launched near the city of Danzhou.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: jcm on 04/27/2016 06:04 PM
Strictly this is a Tianying-3F two-stage sounding rocket with a Kunpeng-1B science payload, acccording to http://news.xinhuanet.com/politics/2016-04/27/c_128938185.htm
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 05/10/2016 09:06 PM
A1053/16 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED WI THE AREA:N392157E1085844-N391420E1095332-N385824E1094951 -N390601E1085502 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. SFC - UNL, 12 MAY 02:40 2016 UNTIL 12 MAY 03:20 2016. CREATED: 10 MAY 11:17 2016
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 05/11/2016 09:54 AM
A1058/16 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N4040E09438-N4017E09438-N4017E09355-N4040E09355 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 12 MAY 02:32 2016 UNTIL 12 MAY 03:15 2016. CREATED: 11 MAY 01:54 2016
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 05/11/2016 06:19 PM
Worth noting that the 2 previous NOTAMed areas are aligned with TSLC...
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: jcm on 05/15/2016 05:16 PM
So they are getting range practice with sounding rockets before orbital launches like they do in Alcantara?

AFAIK, the Hainan sounding rocket site is not the Wenchang orbital launch site. The sounding rockets are launched near the city of Danzhou.

Good point. But not that near Danzhou, if the NOTAM at http://www.chinaspaceflight.com/sounding-rocket/2016-04-27.html is to be believed:  19 31 N  109 07 E near the town of Xifangcun.
There's really not much near those coordinates, but a sounding rocket site doesn't have to be big.
There's a location at 19 31 49  N   109 07 26 E which has something that could be the assembly
building and the antenna seen in the background of some of the pictures. It's been substantially
developed since an earlier Google image in 2003 and indeed the only picture I have of the ZN-1 launches
show a mobile trailer and a very bare site.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 05/16/2016 07:07 PM
A1100/16 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N4040E09438-N4017E09438-N4017E09355-N4040E09355 BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 17 MAY 02:37 2016 UNTIL 17 MAY 03:24 2016. CREATED: 16 MAY 06:24 2016
A1102/16 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.G470: DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'-BIKNO. 2.THE SEGMENTS WITHIN A CIRCLE CENTERED AT DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH' WITH RADIUS OF 40KM. 17 MAY 02:30 2016 UNTIL 17 MAY 03:10 2016. CREATED: 16 MAY 13:27 2016
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: limen4 on 05/17/2016 07:27 PM
So they are getting range practice with sounding rockets before orbital launches like they do in Alcantara?

AFAIK, the Hainan sounding rocket site is not the Wenchang orbital launch site. The sounding rockets are launched near the city of Danzhou.

Good point. But not that near Danzhou, if the NOTAM at http://www.chinaspaceflight.com/sounding-rocket/2016-04-27.html is to be believed:  19 31 N  109 07 E near the town of Xifangcun.
There's really not much near those coordinates, but a sounding rocket site doesn't have to be big.
There's a location at 19 31 49  N   109 07 26 E which has something that could be the assembly
building and the antenna seen in the background of some of the pictures. It's been substantially
developed since an earlier Google image in 2003 and indeed the only picture I have of the ZN-1 launches
show a mobile trailer and a very bare site.

Yes, I can confirm that it is the launch area of the facility. If you follow the way eastwards beyond the highway you will find the administrative area of the facility at 19.528639°N, 109.133598°E. Tracking antennas are located in north-eastern direction at  19.557770°N, 109.141760°E. Finally it should be said that Xifangcun belongs to the city of Danzhou. It is the reason why the whole facility is sometimes referred as the China Academy of Sciences Hainan Danzhou Sounding Rocket Unit.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 06/03/2016 06:40 PM
A1291/16 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.B330: YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-MORIT. 2.A596: YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-DENGKOU VOR 'DKO'. FL000 - FL999, 04 JUN 12:40 2016 UNTIL 04 JUN 13:30 2016. CREATED: 03 JUN 14:14 2016
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 06/04/2016 07:23 PM
A1297/16 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.A596: YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-DENGKOU VOR 'DKO'. 2.B330: YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-MORIT. 3.W66:  ATBUG-EJINAQI VOR 'JNQ'. 4.B215: YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-YINCHUAN VOR 'YHD'. 04 JUN 21:50 2016 UNTIL 04 JUN 22:20 2016. CREATED: 04 JUN 11:51 2016
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 06/22/2016 09:54 AM
A1466/16 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N401808E0944257-N404248E0982052-N410926E1054055-N410453E1073638-N40 5513E1084226-N400814E0955838 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 26 JUN 07:17 2016 UNTIL 26 JUN 07:50 2016. CREATED: 22 JUN 06:36 2016
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/22/2016 10:30 AM
A1466/16 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N401808E0944257-N404248E0982052-N410926E1054055-N410453E1073638-N40 5513E1084226-N400814E0955838 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 26 JUN 07:17 2016 UNTIL 26 JUN 07:50 2016. CREATED: 22 JUN 06:36 2016

Some say that this is actually the landing zone for the next generation crew spacecraft prototype capsule to be launched on the Long March 7.  ;)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Tombo25 on 08/11/2016 08:10 PM
Have found this notam, covers a large area of China, any ideas?

A2031/16 NOTAMN
Q) ZXXX/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/4006N09916E577
A) ZBPE ZLHW ZWUQ B) 1608120022 C) 1608120057
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED
BY:N384229E1113228-N390320E1113944-N412940E0865851-N410849E0865118,
BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: beidou on 08/11/2016 09:29 PM
Probably a missile test.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 12/09/2016 05:05 PM
Here are some conjectures concerning potential missile tests on December 6, 7 and 8

http://www.eastpendulum.com/interception-antimissile-nouvel-essai-6-decembre (http://www.eastpendulum.com/interception-antimissile-nouvel-essai-6-decembre)
http://www.eastpendulum.com/balistique-lancement-7-decembre (http://www.eastpendulum.com/balistique-lancement-7-decembre)
http://www.eastpendulum.com/balistique-3eme-tir-de-df-15c-3-jours (http://www.eastpendulum.com/balistique-3eme-tir-de-df-15c-3-jours)
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 12/11/2016 11:43 AM
A3178/16 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N405240E1002036-N404101E1015512-N401152E1045504-N394016E1044540-N39 5330E1031232-N402046E1001301 BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 12 DEC 04:37 2016 UNTIL 12 DEC 05:42 2016. CREATED: 11 DEC 09:04 2016
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 12/22/2016 04:42 PM
A3261/16 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD 1. B215: N4027.9E09724.1-NUKTI. 2. G470: BIKNO-DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'. 3. W187: DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'-NUKTI. 4. W191: DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'-MOVBI. 23 DEC 02:10 2016 UNTIL 23 DEC 03:10 2016. CREATED: 22 DEC 13:28 2016
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 12/25/2016 06:56 PM
A3280/16 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1. W66:  NUKTI-EJINAQI VOR 'JNQ'. 2. W187: DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'-NUKTI. 3. B215: N4027.9E09724.1-NUKTI. 4. G470: BIKNO-DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH' 5. W191: DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'-MOVBI. 26 DEC 02:50 2016 UNTIL 26 DEC 03:40 2016. CREATED: 25 DEC 13:02 2016
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 12/27/2016 07:56 PM
A3294/16 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.B215: NUKTI- JIAYUGUAN VOR 'CHW'. 2.G470: BIKNO - DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'. 3.W187: DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH' - NUKTI. 4.W191: DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'- MOVBI. 28 DEC 02:55 2016 UNTIL 28 DEC 04:05 2016. CREATED: 27 DEC 13:34 2016
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 12/29/2016 03:55 PM
A3302/16 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.W187: DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'-NUKTI. 2.B215: N4027.9E09724.1-NUKTI. 3.W188: LIKMI-GOVSA. 4.G470: BIKNO-DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'. 5.W191: DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'-MOVBI. 30 DEC 02:10 2016 UNTIL 30 DEC 03:10 2016. CREATED: 29 DEC 12:13 2016

First of 2017:
A0003/17 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.Y1: MAGOD-DUMIN. 2.G470:BIKNO-DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH' 3.W187:OBDEG - NUKTI 4.W191:DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'-MOVBI 5.W192:DUMIN -RUSDI 6.W112:ADMUX-AKTOB. 02 JAN 10:52 2017 UNTIL 02 JAN 11:52 2017. CREATED: 01 JAN 13:32 2017

Second:
A0052/17 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1. B215: N4027.9E09724.1-NUKTI. 2. G470: BIKNO-DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'. 3. W187: DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'-NUKTI. 4. W191: DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'-MOVBI. 06 JAN 07:10 2017 UNTIL 06 JAN 08:10 2017. CREATED: 05 JAN 11:40 2017

A0054/17 -  THE SEGMENTS(IN LANZHOU CONTROL AREA) WITHIN THE AREA CENTERED AT GOBIN [41° 24' 54.00" N 102° 48' 24.00" E] WITH RADIUS OF 100KM CLSD. 06 JAN 04:50 2017 UNTIL 06 JAN 05:50 2017. CREATED: 05 JAN 13:54 2017 
 
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: jcm on 02/01/2017 12:07 AM
The FreeBeacon is reporting a DF-5C launch from Taiyuan with 10 MIRVs on Jan 15.  Anyone have notams for that?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 02/01/2017 07:54 AM
The FreeBeacon is reporting a DF-5C launch from Taiyuan with 10 MIRVs on Jan 15.  Anyone have notams for that?
Hi Jonathan, have a look at
http://www.eastpendulum.com/essai-balistique-lancement-du-15-janvier-2017
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 02/01/2017 08:07 AM
Link to Free Beacon article on that Jan 15 test
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-tests-missile-10-warheads/
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: plutogno on 04/14/2017 07:26 PM
an informative AWST article on Chinese hypersonic research
http://aviationweek.com/technology/china-takes-wraps-national-hypersonic-plan?NL=AW-05&Issue=AW-05_20170414_AW-05_985&
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 04/15/2017 07:13 AM
From the article, there was a scramjet test in December 2015. Picture below. Anybody recognise the launch vehicle?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: Skyrocket on 04/15/2017 09:52 AM
I haven't figured it out - stage one looks like the booster of the Tianying-3F sounding rocket.  But it might be also the booster of some large anti-aircraft-missile (like several western sounding rockets, too). I need to dig a little bit deeper into Chinese missiles.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: limen4 on 04/17/2017 05:00 PM
Maybe a (variant of) TY-7 sounding rocket. Only one simplified image is available.
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 06/09/2017 06:15 AM
A1337/17 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.W187: NUKTI-DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'. 2.W191: DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'- MOVBI. 3.G470: DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH'- BIKNO. 4.B215: NUKTI - N4027.9E09724.1. 09 JUN 07:50 2017 UNTIL 09 JUN 08:50 2017. CREATED: 08 JUN 16:00 2017
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 06/24/2017 07:44 PM
A1575/17 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.Y1: MAGOD-DUMIN 2.W192: DUMIN -RUSDI 3.W112: ADMUX-AKTOB 4.W187: OBDEG - TUSLI- DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH' 5.G470: UPDOP-AKTOB - DUNHUANG VOR 'DNH' 6.V6: AKTOB -JIAYUGUAN VOR 'CHW' 7.B215: N4027.9E09724.1 - YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-N3846.1E10455.5 8.B330: N3824.7E10322.7- YABRAI VOR 'YBL'- GOBIN 9.A596: YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-DENGKOU VOR'DKO'. 0125-0215 0725-0815, 25 JUN 01:25 2017 UNTIL 25 JUN 08:15 2017. CREATED: 24 JUN 13:07 2017
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: SmallKing on 07/23/2017 02:47 PM
Korla, Xinjiang around 22:00L
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: SmallKing on 07/23/2017 02:52 PM
Korla, Xinjiang around 22:00L
Maybe corresponded with
Quote
   
A2052/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED WITHIN A CIRCLE
CENTERED AT
N4136.6E08608.4 WITH RADIUS OF 100KM, VERTICAL LIMITS: GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 23
JUL 13:50 2017 UNTIL 23 JUL 15:00 2017 ESTIMATED. CREATED: 22 JUL 16:24 2017

A2051/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N342316E0963313-N343516E0962713-N341800E0971836-N334310E0971948
BACK TO START.
VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 23 JUL 14:30 2017 UNTIL 23 JUL 15:30 2017.
CREATED: 22 JUL 15:21 2017
   
A2050/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N333915E0974317-N335107E0973206-N341829E0980332-N333705E0985450-N33
1637E0985726-N325715E0983459 BACK TO START.
VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 23 JUL 14:16 2017 UNTIL 23 JUL 15:16 2017.
CREATED: 22 JUL 15:20 2017
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: SmallKing on 07/24/2017 01:26 AM
Korla, Xinjiang around 22:00L
Maybe corresponded with
Quote
   
A2052/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED WITHIN A CIRCLE
CENTERED AT
N4136.6E08608.4 WITH RADIUS OF 100KM, VERTICAL LIMITS: GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 23
JUL 13:50 2017 UNTIL 23 JUL 15:00 2017 ESTIMATED. CREATED: 22 JUL 16:24 2017

A2051/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N342316E0963313-N343516E0962713-N341800E0971836-N334310E0971948
BACK TO START.
VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 23 JUL 14:30 2017 UNTIL 23 JUL 15:30 2017.
CREATED: 22 JUL 15:21 2017
   
A2050/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N333915E0974317-N335107E0973206-N341829E0980332-N333705E0985450-N33
1637E0985726-N325715E0983459 BACK TO START.
VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 23 JUL 14:16 2017 UNTIL 23 JUL 15:16 2017.
CREATED: 22 JUL 15:20 2017
Some pictures taken in the same time in Jiuquan
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: SmallKing on 07/24/2017 01:46 AM
Korla, Xinjiang around 22:00L
Maybe corresponded with
Quote
   
A2052/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED WITHIN A CIRCLE
CENTERED AT
N4136.6E08608.4 WITH RADIUS OF 100KM, VERTICAL LIMITS: GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 23
JUL 13:50 2017 UNTIL 23 JUL 15:00 2017 ESTIMATED. CREATED: 22 JUL 16:24 2017

A2051/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N342316E0963313-N343516E0962713-N341800E0971836-N334310E0971948
BACK TO START.
VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 23 JUL 14:30 2017 UNTIL 23 JUL 15:30 2017.
CREATED: 22 JUL 15:21 2017
   
A2050/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N333915E0974317-N335107E0973206-N341829E0980332-N333705E0985450-N33
1637E0985726-N325715E0983459 BACK TO START.
VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 23 JUL 14:16 2017 UNTIL 23 JUL 15:16 2017.
CREATED: 22 JUL 15:20 2017
More magnificent witnessed in Jingmen, Hubei
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: jcm on 07/24/2017 04:52 AM
Korla, Xinjiang around 22:00L

L means UTC+6, or the generic Chinese UTC+8  ?
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: SmallKing on 07/24/2017 04:56 AM
Korla, Xinjiang around 22:00L

L means UTC+6, or the generic Chinese UTC+8  ?
UTC+8
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 08/03/2017 08:57 AM
More details on the July 23 launch at
http://liuqiankktt.blog.163.com/blog/static/121264211201762495336818/
and at:
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-carries-flight-test-anti-satellite-missile/
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: jcm on 08/25/2017 11:30 PM
Report of Chinese DF-4 missile launch from Taiyuan http://thediplomat.com/2017/08/chinese-peoples-liberation-army-rocket-force-flight-tests-older-df-4-icbm/
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 09/23/2017 11:57 AM
A2930/17 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N393150E0951435-N393150E0963503-N395941E0963503-N395941E0951435 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 24 SEP 02:32 2017 UNTIL 24 SEP 03:18 2017. CREATED: 23 SEP 06:57 2017
Title: Re: Chinese sub-orbital launches
Post by: input~2 on 11/06/2017 07:31 AM
A3320/17 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N405240E1002036-N404100E1015512-N401152E1045504-N394016E1044541- N395330E1031232-N402046E1001301BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 06 NOV 08:02 2017 UNTIL 06 NOV 08:55 2017. CREATED: 05 NOV 08:56 2017