Author Topic: Rokot – Three Gonets-M (blok № 14); Kosmos-2504 – March 31, 2015 (13:47:56 UTC)  (Read 53189 times)

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TLEs out for three payloads and the Briz-M - nothing yet for a putative 4th payload.
Briz-M in 1170 x 1504 km disposal orbit, rest in 1494 x 1506 km, so looks like mission success for the Gonets and Briz.
I recall that Kosmos-2499 took a while to be discovered and cataloged.

Was the second special payload given a Kosmos designation?
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TLEs out for three payloads and the Briz-M - nothing yet for a putative 4th payload.
Briz-M in 1170 x 1504 km disposal orbit, rest in 1494 x 1506 km, so looks like mission success for the Gonets and Briz.
I recall that Kosmos-2499 took a while to be discovered and cataloged.

Was the second special payload given a Kosmos designation?
yes, number is Kosmos-2504.
« Last Edit: 03/31/2015 07:38 pm by russianhalo117 »

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Short launch video...


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There is also a launch video posted on the Russian Ministry of Defence faceboo page at https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1599862353589848&fref=nf

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TLEs out for three payloads and the Briz-M - nothing yet for a putative 4th payload.
Briz-M in 1170 x 1504 km disposal orbit, rest in 1494 x 1506 km, so looks like mission success for the Gonets and Briz.
I recall that Kosmos-2499 took a while to be discovered and cataloged.

Was the second special payload given a Kosmos designation?
yes, number is Kosmos-2504.
Thanks for the Information.

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A fifth object has been catalogued in an orbit close to that of object D (could be Kosmos-2504 in an orbit close to that of Briz-KM)
2015-020E/40556 in 1172 x 1506 km x 82.49°

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The object currently classified as 40555/2015-020D is transmitting at the same radio frequency as COSMOS-2491 and COSMOS-2499. It is highly likely that 40555/2015-020D is COSMOS-2504.

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Kosmos-2504 has begun manuevers in orbit.
On Apr 9 the orbit was raised by about 3 km. Further changes continued on Apr 13-14.
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There appears to have been a rendezvous between Kosmos-2504 and the Briz-KM upper stage around April 16, with the Briz-KM eventually ending up in a higher orbit.

Here's an update on the website of Anatoly Zak, who speculates there may have been some kind of physical contact between the two objects.

http://www.russianspaceweb.com/Cosmos-2504.html

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Kosmos-2504 is article 14Ф153?

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Оказание услуг по подготовке и запуску РКН «Рокот» 14А05-АС11М № 72526 с блоком космических аппаратов 372 АС71М (КА «Гонец-М» № 21,22,23, КА14Ф153)  с космодрома «Плесецк»
http://tsenki.com/upload/iblock/da1/План%20закупок%20ЦЭНКИ%20на%202015%20год%20версия%209.xlsx
http://tsenki.com/partners_customers/purchases/guidelines/
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As noted by Anatoliy and Igor in other forums, Kosmos-2504 made a major orbit change on Jul 3.

On Jul 3 around 0710 orbit changed from 1172 x 1506 km to 1117 x 1455 km
Later on Jul 3 this was tweaked to 1119 x 1452 km  (or,  might be just a more accurate measurement)

The Briz-KM stage is still in a 1172 x 1506 km orbit, no change since the Apr 14 orbit perturbation noted by Anatoliy.

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https://twitter.com/RussianSpaceWeb/status/855419791791857665
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#Russia's mystery satellite comes back to life, supposedly! Details: http://russianspaceweb.com/Cosmos-2504.html#2017 … #Kosmos2504

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From 30 Mar 2017 till 20 Apr 2017 K2504 has descended in several paces by 500 km in perigee height.
This message reflects my personal opinion based on open sources of information.

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The suspected inspector satellite Kosmos-2504 and its predecessor Kosmos-2499 (both launched piggyback with Gonets-M and Strela-3M satellites on the Rokot booster) have engines built by OKB Fakel called K50-10.6. See this list of satellites carrying engines developed by OKB Fakel :

http://www.fakel-russia.com/images/content/o_kompanii/letnaya_istoriya/KA_s_oborudovaniem.pdf

They are the only two satellites in the list with this particular type of engine. According to the list, the satellites have an "electric engine unit (ERDU) with the K50-10.6". In this OKB Fakel leaflet (in English) the K50-10.6 is described as a thermal catalytic engine burning hydrazine:

http://www.fakel-russia.com/images/content/products/fakel_tkd_en_print.pdf

The only other reference I can find to the the K50-10.6 thrusters is in an article about cooperation between OKB Fakel and NPO Lavochkin in the 3/2015 issue of the NPO Lavochkin magazine "Vestnik". It is mentioned in a photo caption in a section called "electric thermal catalytic hydrazine engines". 

https://www.laspace.ru/upload/iblock/a81/a81ab7a06d732871d12138a11250f4cd.pdf
(see p. 35)

However, the picture actually seems to show the K50-10.1 engine rather than the K50-10.6, so this should not be interpreted as evidence that the K50.10-6 is flown on a Lavochkin-built satellite.






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Last year there were some reports that Cosmos 2504 had performed a relatively close (~1 km) approach to a piece from the Fengyin-1 #3 destruction.   Has anyone identified which piece of debris this was, please?   Of course the orbital inclination difference alone would have made any encounter a brief one.
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Last year there were some reports that Cosmos 2504 had performed a relatively close (~1 km) approach to a piece from the Fengyin-1 #3 destruction.   Has anyone identified which piece of debris this was, please?   Of course the orbital inclination difference alone would have made any encounter a brief one.


The claim was 1999-025DPP
-  and the closest approach I can find was 90 km at 0427 UTC Apr 21
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And I don't believe a iota it could be intentional.
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I think: a chance encounter.
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