Shuttle Man - 24/9/2007 8:48 AMI am very impressed with L2 and by the caliber of people on there, which is a credit to the quality of the site and sections.
Chris Bergin - 24/9/2007 5:08 AMBottom line, no L2, no site. I wouldn't be able to afford to keep it going without it, period.
Analyst - 26/9/2007 4:48 PMQuoteChris Bergin - 24/9/2007 5:08 AMBottom line, no L2, no site. I wouldn't be able to afford to keep it going without it, period.L2 is great, worth every cent, period. One question Chris: Are you doing this site for a living or do you have a "normal daytime" job. I can't imagine you have unless your days are longer than mine. Maybe like lunar days, but lunar nights are longer too. Are you or have you studied/worked as a (print or TV) journalist before? Simply ignore or delete if this is to private. Thanks!AnalystPS: This thread reminds me of my L2 fee being almost due again. How fast a year goes.
Stowbridge - 27/9/2007 8:47 PMThey are great. Do they create these for most launches? I think with nearly 600 views on this thread, people are missing them in the second post as there's only a handful of people that have downloaded the trailers.
mikes - 1/10/2007 10:16 AM> About how many members are there on L2? I dont have the will or the patience to count manualyWho does? That's what computers are for Cut'n'paste into "wc" tells me 805Mike
Jonty McLee - 8/10/2007 9:34 AMQ) What is that new Historical section about. That is of interest to me, but a sample example like you've done for some of the other sections would be appreciated.
Jonty McLee - 8/10/2007 4:34 PMQ) What is that new Historical section about. That is of interest to me, but a sample example like you've done for some of the other sections would be appreciated.
ShuttleFan75 - 2/11/2007 6:55 PMQuestion Chris, are the presentations something you can download and see on the site only, or can they be downloaded to to the computer?I ask as I would like to be able to read through documents on my laptop, but does that mean I have to be on L2 with the laptop to read them, or can I put them on a CD or datastick and transfer?
Martin FL - 7/11/2007 6:33 PMI know there's always some post flight, but I wanted to publically saw how amazingly good L2 was for this mission. Really had it all, felt like I was at the MMT, and already getting through the STS-122 presentations. Thank you to this site and the amazing sources.
LeeAnne - 10/11/2007 12:51 AM'Don't know where else I should be posting this question, so if itbelongs somewhere else, please forgive... I keep hearing about a "wish list" for L2. Where would I find it to post a wish?Lee Anne
LeeAnne - 10/11/2007 9:12 PMYes, L2 is like walking into the Library of Congress, looking for a book to read. Where do you start??? 8-)I think there ought to be a college course just in how to find stuff in here! WOW!Lee Anne
Chris Bergin - 2/11/2007 1:02 PMQuoteShuttleFan75 - 2/11/2007 6:55 PMQuestion Chris, are the presentations something you can download and see on the site only, or can they be downloaded to to the computer?I ask as I would like to be able to read through documents on my laptop, but does that mean I have to be on L2 with the laptop to read them, or can I put them on a CD or datastick and transfer?Yep, downloadable documents, on to your hard drive. Copy them across to your laptop or whatever you want...just not to other sites.
George CA - 19/11/2007 7:49 PMI see you don't get many PMs Chris Nearly 3000??
AresWatcher - 20/11/2007 5:28 PMChris, love the site, decided to log in and look at L2. Question about the videos. Are they attached like in the second post of this thread, as in are they downloadable, rather than someone you can only play in the screen of the site?
Chris Bergin - 20/11/2007 11:53 AMQuoteAresWatcher - 20/11/2007 5:28 PMChris, love the site, decided to log in and look at L2. Question about the videos. Are they attached like in the second post of this thread, as in are they downloadable, rather than someone you can only play in the screen of the site?Welcome to the site. Yes, they are all downloadable. Nothing is played "in screen" click a download link, download to your hard drive, play as much as you want.
AresWatcher - 4/12/2007 7:01 AMQuoteChris Bergin - 20/11/2007 11:53 AMQuoteAresWatcher - 20/11/2007 5:28 PMChris, love the site, decided to log in and look at L2. Question about the videos. Are they attached like in the second post of this thread, as in are they downloadable, rather than someone you can only play in the screen of the site?Welcome to the site. Yes, they are all downloadable. Nothing is played "in screen" click a download link, download to your hard drive, play as much as you want.Been on for a couple of weeks and I recommend it highly. Going to need an external hard drive!
Just use the Tag Cloud (in top menu) to easily find the videos (or other info) you are looking for. In this case, click Video and then Landing and the videos are right there.
-Mark
cantuezel - 7/12/2007 10:52 PMHi,just registered to L2 restricted site, very nice indeed!. I heard that there are two very nice incockpit videos (besode of many others), one Endeveour(?) reentry vid (2h full time long) with plasma outside and another full time reentry vid.from deorbit til landing.I dont know the Title of the vids (nor the STS No.). Could someone just post the title for that videos so that I am able to search for that vids on the multimedia-section of L2.Thanks in advance!GreetingsCanPS: Respect for the L2-URL, Chris! :laugh:
apollo13 - 9/12/2007 1:06 AMThere is no place to put my user-name, there is no Payment Notes area, do I need my parents to create an account to see the payment notes part?
Jason Davies - 18/12/2007 11:47 PMHow long will the site be shut down for over the holidays? I know a lot of sites do, so wondering how long this one will be?
Chris Bergin - 18/12/2007 6:54 PMQuoteJason Davies - 18/12/2007 11:47 PMHow long will the site be shut down for over the holidays? I know a lot of sites do, so wondering how long this one will be?We're an all year - 24/7 site.
Jim - 19/12/2007 1:06 AMQuoteChris Bergin - 18/12/2007 6:54 PMQuoteJason Davies - 18/12/2007 11:47 PMHow long will the site be shut down for over the holidays? I know a lot of sites do, so wondering how long this one will be?We're an all year - 24/7 site.But most of the aerospace business will be shutdown
Gary - 23/12/2007 6:08 PMI'm in the UK and on L2. Chris made it very easy for me to sign up.The forums are very active when there is a mission or mission troubleshooting but even where there isn't there is a still fresh content.And for your last question - YES.
bobblebob - 23/12/2007 6:57 PMSeriously thinking about signing up to L2 but have a couple of questions if thats ok:1) I live in the UK, will i still be able to pay and sign up?2) How active are the forums over at L2? 3) From what ive read there is alot of info available, will it take over my life and will i get addicted to L2 ?Cheers
AndrewSTS - 5/1/2008 10:15 PMHi. Long time reader and enjoy the articles and how they are always first with the news. Thinking of getting L2 as I'm finding the articles on the ECO troubleshooting very interesting. Are there some presentations on this in L2 that are the sort of thing Space Shuttle managers actually look at in this process?
Longhorn John - 21/1/2008 5:59 PMChris. Long time reader of your articles for a few years, great work, always get the news here first. I want to ask about STS-400 rescue for Hubble, I noticed you have images, but do you have some presentations on this and some on STS-125? Thank you.
Longhorn John - 21/1/2008 3:00 PMThanks. Joined. Very, VERY impressed with the tiny amount I've gotten through so far. I'm going to need a more comfortable chair!
Jamie Young - 2/2/2008 5:01 PMChris, the first screenshots of the L2 Cloud might need an update now, as look a lot more full now, compared to when these were taken.And yes, L2 is amazing and just gets better! :cool:
Firestarter - 7/2/2008 2:23 PMWhat's that on the ticker about hi res debris images? That's impossible for this flight, so I don't understand that, but intrigued, thanks.
paulbacon - 22/2/2008 9:22 PMJust submitted my payment via paypall. How long does it take to active my account so i can get on L2?
NickMilner - 4/3/2008 11:50 AMJust wanted to say hi and ask a quick question. I discovered this place a bit by accident but it's like Aladdin's Cave! I can see my ISP capping my bandwidth in the near future. Now I'm am a complete newbie at this. I have no connection to the aerospace industry whatsoever and am just driven by a long standing but casual interest in space. Hopefully I won't annoy people too much with my ignorant questions, so I'll start right away with:Is there a thread that explains a little bit about what's in the STS-123 Special section? There's a section intro but it just says "As per usual." Is there a FAQ that can help complete and utter newbies like myself?I'll figure it out eventually in any case but at gentle push in the right direction would be appreciated, thanks!
SimonShuttle - 4/3/2008 11:58 AMNot sure what you mean? I'm in L2, and what's in the STS-123 Special is self explanatory, such as the FRR Presentations, Handbooks, Mission Presentations etc. And Aladdin's Cave has nothing on L2 :cool:
Heather - 26/3/2008 7:40 PMHi. I see on the ticker a 1.9 gb video of a VAB and other parts tour? Would it be at all possible to see a sneak preview of that as my brother went crazy saying he wants to see it. He is a big fan of the VAB
Heather - 26/3/2008 2:40 PMHi. I see on the ticker a 1.9 gb video of a VAB and other parts tour? Would it be at all possible to see a sneak preview of that as my brother went crazy saying he wants to see it. He is a big fan of the VAB
pippin - 7/4/2008 8:39 AMWhat happened to the Forum Calendar on L2? I can't see it anymore.
Davinator - 30/4/2008 9:19 PMHey Chris, long time reader and lurker. Do you have anything on crew escape for shuttle in L2? I'm looking for the survival gear and escape procedures. Thank you.
Chris Bergin - 30/4/2008 3:26 PMQuoteDavinator - 30/4/2008 9:19 PMHey Chris, long time reader and lurker. Do you have anything on crew escape for shuttle in L2? I'm looking for the survival gear and escape procedures. Thank you.Yes, including a big one stop document (166 pages) which is probably going to be everything you need on the request.
ANDY_WALLACEGROVE - 21/5/2008 6:52 AMI would be surprised if Boeing or Airbus had their own L2 sites providing such technical data. Of course the cost of entry is significantly lower.
Where did the video go? I click the arrow button and it says the video is no longer available? Is it just me?
Thanks chris.. I agree, it must be me. the direct link to youtube works fine.. probably just software versions on my end.. Thanks for the link
Unmistakable MaxQ signature Great one, that should wake some curiosities!
That's the heck of a promo! Amazed about the amount of videos, docs and images I recognized from the whole forum.Will pass on to a lot of people!
New L2 Promo video. Thanks to the guys at MaxQ!
Did I read the ticker right? "L2 now over 4,000 GB in size." That's over 4 Terabytes!
Hi, I'm thinking of joining L2. I hear mentions of a tag cloud which is like a submenu on top of the L2 sections. Is it this, http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=tags , as it seems to be missing things which must be on L2 from what I see in the article overviews?
Thanks Chris, that completely answers my question! How long does it take to join from time of making payment?
Sorry if this is not obvious, but where do I click for the page to join L2?
Had L2 for a month now and I'm not even 10% through the amazing content on there. Amazing place, heaven for a shuttle fan. Thank you so much for this site.
Chris, what do I need to do to renew when my subscription ends? Is there a way to do this just before it runs out? Don't want to miss even a day on L2, very addictive!!
I only recently got access to L2. My impressions are that the diversity of material is pretty good (Chris said above more sections will come in time), but the level of detail is somewhere between ridiculous and insane. If Wayne Hale has all that stuff in his head (and you know he does, and more), I'm even more impressed than I was before.But that STS-93 video is over-the-top. What that team got done between launch and MECO 8 1/2 minutes later is astonishing to me. And the amount of terror in their voices as multiple things were going wrong simultaneously on a vehicle with people they know on board - zero. I've watched it about 25 times. It's hugely impressive on many levels.The other videos, images, documents and presentations (of which there are tons) are quite nice as well, but as on the main forum, Chris is there to keep it all organized and so L2 acts not as a large pile of raw data (like Googling "Constellation Program" would), but a relatively easy-to-use database of information, people and explanations.
Hi Jay, I am a new user, How would I go about seeing that video you mention in your posting ? Thanks Tim
PLEASE NOTE: THE L2 TICKER IS AN ADVERT WHICH SUMMARIZES WHAT IS ON L2.Most of you have heard of it, a number of you are members on it, but this is an open forum thread to give a better - more up to date - overview, review, Q&A and one stop shop for some of the L2 samples that are dotted around the site for what is a unique subscription service, which we believe is by far the best subscription service for space flight followers.The main signup and overview/intro page: http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/L2/ (this covers most elements, although I will add some screenshots below).Previous thread with questions and comments: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1669&start=1Please feel free to post questions here, or PM me if you wish to contact me personally.L2 is four sections (with more to come in time):1) Mission Special (currently L2 STS-120 Special) - which is an MMT (Management Level) service which reached 1,700 megabytes worth of data during STS-118. 2) Space Flight L2: Shuttle, ISS and current vehicles, the main host area of the L2 Cloud sub menus (see below).3) Space Flight L2: Constellation and Future: Mainly dedicated to Ares/Orion, but also other new vehicles and EELVs etc.4) Space Flight L2: The Ultimate Video Section: Home of the superb re-entry videos, but also includes a number of unique Shuttle related videos, Constellation overview videos, ISS tours etc.Everything on L2 is not available on ANY other site. On the rare occasions we do break news/images etc, and a few weeks later NASA decide to release them publicly, we lock or wipe it off L2. Each section as a request form, which our sources (we have a lot of those) use to send us further L2 information as per request. You can also post further questions on the information in L2 due to the forum format. One of the major strengths of L2 is the large amount of actual space industry on L2 who are happy to answer questions/elaborate on what is contained in there, especially during missions.Nothing on L2 is ITAR, Export Control, SBU or Proprietary.So first, here's a screenshot of the L2 Cloud - a special menu which breaks down specific sections we have a large amount of presentations etc. contained within.Let's show an example.Image 1: The L2 Cloud (which you will see in the top bar menu as an L2 user).Image 2: Member clicks on STS-125 (and goes to that menu).Image 3: Selects the highlighted "thread" and download the full presentation by clicking what is highlighted, which incidentally also works for Orion.New L2 Promo video. Thanks to the guys at MaxQ!
Can anyone help me figure out how to start a paid subscription so I can get access to all areas of L2 ?
It might be a good idea to update the thread with the new forum pages like the tag cloud for L2?