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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #580 on: 07/20/2017 03:21 pm »
Soyuz MS-05 with Soyuz FG
fairing No. R15000-078 (that could be Soyuz FG with serial number R15000-058)

https://www.energia.ru/en/iss/iss52/photo_07-19_1.html

A tender for insurance says the rocket cost 773,600,000 and the fairing 78,940,000.
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/download/download.html?id=33183628
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/documents.html?regNumber=31705325383
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #581 on: 07/25/2017 01:43 pm »
I'm not sure, but it could be R15000-58
« Last Edit: 07/25/2017 01:50 pm by Alter Sachse »
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #582 on: 07/25/2017 03:09 pm »
I'm not sure, but it could be R15000-58

Third stage might be different than lower two stages since RKTs Progress is still working through the engine swap backlog created by the Soyuz-U launch failure last year. AFAIK, Blok-I should be back to normal manufacturing flows before the end of this year.

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #583 on: 08/01/2017 08:49 am »
The contract for three Soyuz-2-1a rockets for Progress-MS has been amended. An additional item includes 11 sets of videocameras to be fitted to rockets and fairings. It shows these pairings.

11А511У-ПВБ9М136С11С517А2.0000-09М136С
11А511У-ФГ12М137С11С517А3.0000-012М137С
11А511У-ФГ1М139С11С517А3.0000-01М146С
11А511У-ФГ5М139С11С517А2.0000-02М145С
11А511У-ФГ6М139С11С517А2.0000-03М145С
14А14-1а18М137С11С517А2.0000А1-018М137С
14А14-1а19М137С11С517А2.0000А1-019М137С
14А14-1а20М137С11С517А2.0000А1-020М137С
14А14-1а4М140С11С517А2.0000А1-01М145С
14А14-1а5М140С11С517А3.0000А1-04М146С
14А14-1а6М140С11С517А3.0000А1-06М146С
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/44fz/filestore/public/1.0/download/rgk2/file.html?uid=555F9C12E52D0014E0530A86120DAAF0

Progress-MS is going up on Soyuz-FG, and Soyuz-MS on Soyuz-2-1a rockets.

Progress-MS fairing
11С517А2

Soyuz-MS fairing
11С517А3

Soyuz-U rocket
11А511У-ПВБ

Soyuz-FG rocket
11А511У-ФГ

Soyuz-2-1a rockets
14А14-1а

 
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #584 on: 09/02/2017 12:00 pm »
Soyus 2 1A for Kanopus V no. 3 and 4 was on 1./2.09. by train to Vostochniy sent.
Soyuz 2 1B for Meteor 2-1 is still being tested.
https://www.roscosmos.ru/24001/

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #585 on: 09/05/2017 01:38 pm »
fairing for Soyuz FG (Soyus-MS 06)
U15000-083
« Last Edit: 09/05/2017 01:43 pm by Alter Sachse »
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #586 on: 09/05/2017 03:01 pm »
fairing for Soyuz FG (Soyus-MS 06)
U15000-083

Factory serial number 12М137С
https://www.roscosmos.ru/media/gallery/big/24014/6287113938.jpg

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #587 on: 09/05/2017 05:23 pm »
fairing for Soyuz FG (Soyus-MS 06)
U15000-083

Factory serial number 12М137С
https://www.roscosmos.ru/media/gallery/big/24014/6287113938.jpg
According to the "system" would be the rocket U15000-063
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #588 on: 09/08/2017 02:50 pm »
Soyuz FG U15000-063 (№У15000-063) Soyuz MS-06 no. 734 (№734):

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #589 on: 09/08/2017 04:35 pm »
I will never understand the logic of the sequence  ???.
Last 10 Soyuz-FG launches:
052
054
055
057
056
059
060
065
058
063
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #590 on: 09/08/2017 05:02 pm »
I will never understand the logic of the sequence  ???.
Last 10 Soyuz-FG launches:
052
054
055
057
056
059
060
065
058
063

The logic is a readiness of given rocket to given launch. Also you remember that after Soyuz-U failure in December 2015 it was decided to change engines on all third stages. Some rockets were on Baikonur and their third stages were to be returned to factory.
I understand already. Delta or Atlas it is similar.
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #591 on: 09/20/2017 09:00 pm »
Trying to summarize all available information.

Serial numbers of Soyuz rockets with known full serial numbers of 11Д55 engines obtained from various photos and videos.

Thank you. I think I now understand the numbering I saw in a couple of tenders.

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«Поставка ДУ осуществляется в рамках следующих ГК:
- партия 23№3,4 - ГК №353-1130/14/459 от 29.12.14г.;
- партия 24№1,2,3 - ГК №353-С081/14/344 от 24.10.14г.;
Сведения по источнику финансирования поставки ДУ партии 24№4 и партии 25№1,2,3 будут сообщены дополнительно после заключения госконтракта»
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/download/download.html?id=13316893
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/documents.html?noticeId=2342603

Is 23/3 engine with serial number 5358923213, 23/4 is 5358923214?

The rockets covered by those contracts are:-

№353-1130/14/459
Soyuz-FG for Soyuz-MS spacecraft
У15000-063 (12/137)
У15000-064 (1/139)

№353-С081/14/344
Soyuz-2.1a for Progress-MS spacecraft
У15000-028 (18/137)
У15000-029 (19/137)
У15000-030 (20/137)

But that slightly conflicts with some handwritten information in that document.

It looks like there was a lot of change in the 137-series; and now even those engines are not being used?

The other document is here:-
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/download/download.html?id=13148794
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/documents.html?noticeId=2313082

It refers to п. 43 №3 to п. 43 №6, п. 44 №1 to п. 44 №6, п. 45 №1 to п. 45 №6, upto п. 47 №1.

Six in each set, block? For п. 43 №4 was it engine with the serial number 5357243614?
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #592 on: 10/09/2017 03:05 pm »
Progress MS-07
yes it is U15000-029
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #593 on: 10/09/2017 03:48 pm »
http://russianspaceweb.com/soyuz-ms.html#2017
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Cosmonaut launches to move to the 2.1a variant of the Soyuz rocket

A seemingly easy step of transferring the Soyuz MS spacecraft from the older FG rocket variant to the newer Soyuz-2-1a launcher turned out to be much more difficult than had been anticipated. In the aftermath of the Progress M-27M accident in 2015, engineers suspected potential structural and dynamics problems in the joint stack of the transport spacecraft and the third stage of the Soyuz-2-1a rocket. Because the lives of cosmonauts were at stake, Roskosmos adopted a very conservative and gradual transfer program with many tests and extensive analysis along the way.

On Dec. 28, 2016, Roskosmos officially approved the transfer of cosmonaut launches to the Soyuz-2-1a rocket. According to the plan, a Soyuz-2-1a rocket would be used to launch the Soyuz MS-12 (No. 742) spacecraft with a crew onboard in March 2019, after a series of ground tests. The second trial mission carrying the Soyuz MS-13 (No. 743) spacecraft with a crew was scheduled for September 2019. Because these two missions would expend a pair of Soyuz-2-1a rockets previously assigned to cargo flights, on June 2, 2017, Roskosmos authorized a plan to switch the launch of Progress MS-10 (No. 440) cargo ship on Oct. 11, 2018, and Progress MS-11 (No. 441) scheduled for Feb. 6, 2019, to Soyuz-FG rockets originally intended for those manned launches.

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #594 on: 10/10/2017 06:18 pm »
December 22 - Kanopus-V n.º3, Kanopus-V n.º 4
In the rollout video you can see the serial number of the Soyuz 2.1a:
N15000-002
At the first launch in Vostochniy the Soyuz 2.1a with the serial number R15000-001 was used.
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #595 on: 10/11/2017 05:42 am »
The Soyuz 2.1b for Meteor 2-1 could have the serial number N15000-001. (?)
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #596 on: 10/11/2017 03:23 pm »
The Soyuz 2.1b for Meteor 2-1 could have the serial number N15000-001. (?)

That would be my guess too.

This document indicates that the line item on the contract, for the production of this rocket, has been accepted or completed. (Someone help me with the wording, please.)
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/44fz/filestore/public/1.0/download/rgk2/file.html?uid=5B432D42B74200B4E0530A86120D8AA7
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/epz/contract/contractCard/document-info.html?reestrNumber=4770238802716000060
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #597 on: 10/12/2017 05:42 am »
Anybody identified the Fairing Serial Numbers that match assigned factory serial numbers: unknown for Kanopus-V n.º3, Kanopus-V n.º 4 and 28/135 for Meteor 2-1??

December 22 - Kanopus-V n.º3, Kanopus-V n.º 4
In the rollout video you can see the serial number of the Soyuz 2.1a:
N15000-002
At the first launch in Vostochniy the Soyuz 2.1a with the serial number R15000-001 was used.
The Soyuz 2.1b for Meteor 2-1 could have the serial number N15000-001. (?)

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #598 on: 10/16/2017 03:42 pm »
FYI:
http://russianspaceweb.com/soyuz-ms-soyuz2-1a.html
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Cosmonaut launches to move to the 2.1a variant of the Soyuz rocket

The introduction of the Soyuz MS series coincided with the effort to transfer Russian manned launches to the Soyuz 2-1a rocket variant. The move would allow Russia to retire the Soyuz-FG launch vehicle which used Ukrainian flight control avionics. The new integrated Soyuz-2-1a launch vehicle with the Soyuz-MS spacecraft received the industrial designation 371KK35.

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #599 on: 11/04/2017 08:06 pm »
There is some recent discussions about a yet to be approved proposal to immediately retire the Soyuz-2.1a variant upon the last Soyuz-MS flight to ISS leaving only Soyuz-2.1b and Soyuz-2.1v variants remaining until they are replaced via presumably new variants of Soyuz-5 containing 0 to 4 strap-on boosters or SHLV.
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