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Offline nacnud

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RE: SpaceDev banking on Dream Chaser
« Reply #1 on: 11/17/2005 11:00 AM »
Isn't the HL-20 design based on the soviet BOR design for the Spira space plane?

Is there any indication if the Spiras movable wings have been retained?

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RE: SpaceDev banking on Dream Chaser
« Reply #2 on: 11/17/2005 11:04 AM »
Cool! I demand images :)
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Offline Chris Bergin

RE: SpaceDev banking on Dream Chaser
« Reply #3 on: 11/17/2005 11:06 AM »
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nacnud - 17/11/2005  12:00 PM

Isn't the HL-20 design based on the soviet BOR design for the Spira space plane?

Is there any indication if the Spiras movable wings have been retained?

I'll have to pass on that, but I'm pretty sure the HL-20 didnt...and they seem to be saying they are sticking with that design concept.

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RE: SpaceDev banking on Dream Chaser
« Reply #4 on: 11/17/2005 11:06 AM »
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FransonUK - 17/11/2005  12:04 PM

Cool! I demand images :)

HL-20:

http://oea.larc.nasa.gov/PAIS/HL-20.html


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RE: SpaceDev banking on Dream Chaser
« Reply #5 on: 11/17/2005 12:56 PM »
So why would NASA wish t go with a more expensive, lower capacity vehicle over this one?

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RE: SpaceDev banking on Dream Chaser
« Reply #6 on: 11/17/2005 01:04 PM »
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Justin Space - 17/11/2005  7:56 AM

So why would NASA wish t go with a more expensive, lower capacity vehicle over this one?

NASA is looking for a multi-purpose structure, which can go to the ISS, the Moon and Mars etc. They don't want several different ships for several different missions.
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RE: SpaceDev banking on Dream Chaser
« Reply #7 on: 11/17/2005 02:22 PM »
How does that one land? Like an orbiter or with paracutes?

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RE: SpaceDev banking on Dream Chaser
« Reply #8 on: 11/17/2005 02:35 PM »
Like an orbiter
http://www.astronautix.com/graphics/h/hl20roll.jpg" />

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RE: SpaceDev banking on Dream Chaser
« Reply #9 on: 11/17/2005 02:53 PM »
For control and cross range capability this seems like a no brainer for NASA to use for transportation in LEO.

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RE: SpaceDev banking on Dream Chaser
« Reply #10 on: 11/17/2005 02:58 PM »
Great news. The concept already has some professional development and testing behind it, both by the Russians and Amerians. Hopefully this will be enough to attract investors. Personally it was my favourite choice for a CEV before the recent announcment.

Some Links:
http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/loadFile.do?objectId=1815&objectType=file
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/hl20.htm

Also: http://www.mathworks.com/access/helpdesk/help/toolbox/aeroblks/aero_s12.html

Maybe there will be a return at last on all the past investment by NASA and the US taxpayer.


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RE: SpaceDev banking on Dream Chaser
« Reply #11 on: 11/17/2005 03:09 PM »
Furthermore, I think this idea (HL20) was just too good to waste. Development is probably at the same stage as the Russian Klipper. There's nothing like a bit of competition ;)

Great days ahead...hopefully



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RE: SpaceDev banking on Dream Chaser
« Reply #13 on: 11/17/2005 03:45 PM »
And it actually looks like a Spaceship! Put me down for this!!!

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RE: SpaceDev banking on Dream Chaser
« Reply #14 on: 11/17/2005 04:16 PM »
Excellent news, we should all get behind this and support what SpaceDev want to do. Think of the potential money saved from the CLV project. There's your ticket to get the ISS completed and the CEV off to the Moon by 2018.

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RE: SpaceDev banking on Dream Chaser
« Reply #15 on: 11/17/2005 04:27 PM »
This vehicle has nothing to do with exploring. However I like it. I keeps space tourism happy and if used for crew transport to the ISS then it might help NASA shortcut some of the plans to get more advanced towards the 2018 target. Jury is out, but I'm listening.

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RE: SpaceDev banking on Dream Chaser
« Reply #16 on: 11/17/2005 04:42 PM »
SpaceDev have a good relationship with NASA Ames and I'm sure they'll get a fair shot at showing what they can do with this vechicle. They do need the funding first of all.

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RE: SpaceDev banking on Dream Chaser
« Reply #17 on: 11/17/2005 04:52 PM »
I'm impressed by the way they are looking to use previously designed hardware. Thanks to the images above this post, you can see how this is a good concept.

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RE: SpaceDev banking on Dream Chaser
« Reply #18 on: 11/17/2005 05:13 PM »
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