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Re: French Guyana protests - discussion and impact on launches
« Reply #80 on: 04/19/2017 08:09 PM »
More about Russians leaving Kourou:

http://avherald.com/h?article=4a7c4013&opt=0

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Re: French Guyana protests - discussion and impact on launches
« Reply #81 on: 04/20/2017 06:50 AM »
Well, we are hitting one month blockade today. It seems that in the administration side, Arianespace is not that much impacted, they signed a new launch contract during a tour in Japan. (https://twitter.com/Arianespace/status/854900914162937857)

Press and radios briefly reporting that the movement and government are close to an agreement which is good news. My 2 cents guess (I'm no insider) is that even if operations start again tomorrow, the Ariane 5 launch would not happen before the end of the month, and as reported here, russian teams are not on site for Soyuz care.

Also I've raised concerns about the Ariane 6 launchpad construction, since this whole program is tight from the beginning.

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Re: French Guyana protests - discussion and impact on launches
« Reply #82 on: 04/20/2017 09:15 AM »
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Update from #kourou agreement might be close, meeting today, possible end in sight #VA236 #CSG

https://twitter.com/dutchspace/status/854976088874897408

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Re: French Guyana protests - discussion and impact on launches
« Reply #83 on: 04/20/2017 11:56 AM »
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Peter B. de Selding‏ @pbdes 1h1 hour ago

Euro spaceport: Roadblocks still up. Movement demands govt decree re additional funds that would bind next govt. (Elections Apr 23/May7).

https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/855008826311012352

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French Guyana protests - discussion and impact on launches
« Reply #84 on: 04/20/2017 12:47 PM »
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Peter B. de Selding‏ @pbdes 1h1 hour ago

Euro spaceport: Roadblocks still up. Movement demands govt decree re additional funds that would bind next govt. (Elections Apr 23/May7).

https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/855008826311012352

That seems a reasonable request considering the fast approaching election.
« Last Edit: 04/21/2017 01:29 PM by Star One »

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Re: French Guyana protests - discussion and impact on launches
« Reply #85 on: 04/21/2017 12:14 PM »
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Euro spaceport: Indications are that govt & Fr Guiana movement may sign deal today that would end month-long roadblocks.

https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/855380585535156224

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Re: French Guyana protests - discussion and impact on launches
« Reply #86 on: 04/21/2017 09:09 PM »
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Peter B. de Selding‏ @pbdes 10m10 minutes ago

Euro spaceport:  Fr govt & protest movement sign accord; month-long paralysis ends, roadblocks removed; launch prep of ~ 10 days can start.

https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/855525996698759169
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Re: French Guyana protests - discussion and impact on launches
« Reply #87 on: 04/21/2017 09:18 PM »
EDIT : source https://www.afp.com/fr/infos/334/vers-la-fin-du-conflit-en-guyane I missread previously, they obtained the 3billion €, apparently.

According to the information I could find, the agreements contains a funding plan of ~3 billion euros in the local infrastructures, as well as some more technical stuff, like the government giving some properties to the local administration and such.
The government was initially proposing 1 billion €, saying that 3 billion € was unrealistic.

Most roadblocks were removed throughout the day, before the final agreement was signed.

Since the protesters obtained most of what they were asking for, and since such a long and strong conflict is very difficult for both the population and the economy, that should be the end of the conflict.
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Re: French Guyana protests - discussion and impact on launches
« Reply #88 on: 04/21/2017 09:52 PM »
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DutchSpace‏ @DutchSpace 20m20 minutes ago

Update from #kourou agreement signed, way foward being planned, #VA236 launch possible early May #CSG

https://twitter.com/DutchSpace/status/855534168486313985

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Re: French Guyana protests - discussion and impact on launches
« Reply #89 on: 04/22/2017 05:42 AM »
SpaceNews write-up:

http://spacenews.com/french-guiana-accord-sets-stage-for-arianespace-resume-launches/

ArianeSpace still expects to do all it's planned launches this year. There was a gap now of a couple of months in their schedule which they'll use to catch up on the threee delayed launches.
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Re: French Guyana protests - discussion and impact on launches
« Reply #90 on: 04/22/2017 09:03 AM »
I've attached a pdf of the signed accord. [source, at the bottom]


Google translate version of the OCR, just cleaned up the formatting slightly:

GUYANA ACCORD
(21 April 2017)

PROTOCOL
POU LAGWIYANN DEKOLÉ

Guyana Agreement
Protocol "Pou Lagwîyann dékolé"
(21 April 2017)


PREAMBLE
On March 28, 2017, two historic marches brought together thousands of Guyanese people in the streets of Cayenne and Saint-Laurent-du-Maroni.
These demonstrations followed years of warning of the state and successive governments by the elected officials and of the demands of the population that intensified in 2017, expressing a feeling of abandonment by the Republic and demanding a just treatment And equitable, of the difficulties and challenges facing Guyana.
The movement reflected both a demand for more consideration by the Republic and the will of the Guyanese to take charge of their destiny to meet these challenges and to value the potentials of their territory.
These demands were expressed in dignity, in a spirit of responsibility and without overflow.
The Prime Minister initially sent an interministerial delegation led by Jean-François CORDET, former prefect of Guyana, to prepare discussions with the Pou Lagwiyann ​​De'kolé Collective. The Prime Minister asked the interior and overseas ministers to go to Guyana to hear the demands of the Collective, to provide immediate solutions to the most urgent problems and to conclude the present Guyana Agreement - Protocol "Pou Lagwiyann ​​dékolé" .

The latter measures measures at different temporalities which, on the one hand, will serve as a seed for the development of the territory, on new bases and which, on the other hand, will reposition Guyana on a trajectory of "real equality >> converges with the rest of the national territory, in accordance with the provisions of article 72-3 of the Constitution, first paragraph.
Indeed, the answers provided by the State have never lived up to the peculiar and real difficulties that Guyana knows, which are not those of other overseas countries and even less those of other French communities, Rightly pointed out the Constitutional Council in its decision n ° 2016-589 QPC of 21 October 2016.

The exceptional population growth of Guyana, the immensity of its territory and the natural resources at its disposal require us to think of its development in different, innovative and adapted terms. This is reflected in the in-depth analysis of the list of demands submitted by the Collective to the two ministers.
The Collective and the elected representatives of this Protocol therefore demand that this unique situation of French Guiana be acknowledged by all.
Multiple claims require a differentiated approach to problem solving.
The importance of the approach and the substantive work of the Collective lies in the fact that it has succeeded in bringing together proposals for solutions emanating from multiple actors representing all facets of the Guyanese society and economy.
These proposals are also based on earlier approaches that have mobilized the active forces of Guyana, as well as its elected representatives, such as the Guidance Document of a "Development Pact for Guyana" of February 1999, the " Agreement on the future of Guyana "of 2001, or the negotiations on the future pact in 2016 (version of 12 September 2016)

They also come from numerous associations, trade unions and various institutions which form the Collective and whose non-exhaustive list is as follows:
The collective of the 500 brothers against delinquency, the association Trop Violans, the collective of the Iguanas of the West, the association Lavi Danbwa, the expropriated collective of Kourou, Citizen-Citizens of Guyana, SNUipp, FSU-Guyana , UNSA Education, MDAF-Guyane, UTEPE, STEG-UTG, CIPF-Guyana, South-Education-Guyana, the citizen teachers movement in western Guyana, standing students, Anowi opo, SNETAA-FO-Guyane, Collective of the Reeds of Mana and Awala-Yalimapo, the collective of the partners and friends of the school, the collective of the socioprofessionals of the economic sectors agricultural sector, The FEDELEC 973, the STVIIUG, the regional chamber of the social and solidarity economy of Guyana, the Culture collective, the STCG, the UGTR, the SDTG, the STIU, the leisure centers collective, the Union des entreprises de West-Guyanese, UTG CMCK, UTG Lighting, Coll Of the socio-professionals of the economic and agricultural sectors, the CCIG, the FTPE, the UTPEG, the UTG / CGT, the GRAFOGUY, Macrabo, Matoupan, Latč nou Gangan, Comou de Matoury, La Savane, IWA, the collective Toukans, CRSA Guyane, the collective for families and youth at risk, the local mission of Guyana, the 2nd chance association, Nexem, the UTG, the association SRDT, the inter-union association of the ARS, The association of practitioners of the Cayenne hospital center, UTG Central, UFAP-Unsa Guyane, the SNPPSUNS, the union of hoteliers - restorers cafetiers and discotheques of Guyana, the collectives A nou balé douvan nou the pot, Lawyers, UFAP-UnsJustice, Amerindian and Bushinenge Advisory Council, Nation T'leuyu, FOAG, ONAG, First Nations Collective; The Collectif LAWA, the collective Apatou, Sous le fromager, U weli, Anou even ke nou even, the forgotten Camopi, Sinnamary bulls, SGSI association, Nou bon ké sa movement, CREAAM, GROS-Guiana , The collective for the development of Art & Culture in French Guiana.
The Collective structured the claims initially listed in a list of demands of more than 400 pages by articulating them into 12 thematic clusters, each cluster having prioritized its requests in the short and medium term. It includes: Education; Theoretical study; Thermodynamics; Land and Taxation; Health, Social and Medico-social; Security and Justice; Issues relating to indigenous and bushinnged peoples; Questions relating to municipalities and local fi nances; Sport and Culture.
After work between the State and the Collective, statements of decisions have been drawn up between the State, represented by the Minister for Overseas France, duly mandated by the Prime Minister and having full powers to sign on behalf and On behalf of the State and the undersigned contracting parties forming part of the Pou Lagwiyann ​​Dékolé Collective

Thus, on 2 April 2017, the French Overseas Minister proposed a first draft of an agreement known as the Guyana Agreement - "Pou Lagwiyann ​​Dékolé" Protocol, containing an emergency plan for Guyana, rejected by the Collective, which considered that This plan of 1.086 billion euros was partly a simple rearrangement of allocations already programmed and that it was not able to catch up the endemic and structural delay of Guyana in terms of sanitary, educational, social and road infrastructures.


The contingency plan proposed by the State was detailed as follows:
° Creation of a security staff under the authority of the prefect;
° A squadron of mobile gendarmes will be based permanently in Guyana;
° Reinforcement of 50 gendarmes and policemen from 2017, then 90 additional gendarmes between 2018 and 2020; They are added to the 70 gendarmes and police already arrived in reinforcement by decision of the Minister of the Interior; The number of reservists in the gendarmerie will increase by 50%; They will increase from 200 to 300, thus promoting local employment and training;
° Entry of the priority security zone of Saint-Laurent-du-Maroni into its operational phase;
° Installation of an ultrasound system at Félix Eboué airport to combat drug trafficking;
° Establishment of mobile dams on National Roads 1 and 2;
° Immediate mobilization of the French diplomatic network to revitalize cooperation with neighboring countries in the field of justice and security, in particular to allow the readmission of convicted foreigners to their countries;
° Establishment of a tribunal de grande instance in Saint-Lament-du-Maroni;
° Construction of a judicial city in Cayenne;
° Construction of a penal institution in Saint-Laurent-du-Maroni for € 50 million;
° Abandonment of the proposed sale of the CMCK to a public sector project;
° Emergency delegation of 20 million euros to the CHAR for payment of its suppliers and 40 million euros to modernize the hospital;
° Allocation of 25 million euros to CHOG to strengthen its investment budget;
° Establishment of an exceptional € 5 million plan for disability policies;
° Assistance to the Collectivité Territoriale de Guyane in the construction of colleges and lycées for € 50 million per year over five years, ie € 250 million;
° Increase from 10 to 15 million euros per year in the state's allocation to municipalities to build schools over 10 years, ie 150 million euros;
° Doubling of the number of speakers in the mother tongue (LLM) in schools from the beginning of 2017;
° Free transfer to the Territorial Collectivity of Guyana and the communes of 250,000 hectares;
° Allocation of 400,000 hectares to indigenous peoples through the public establishment placed with the Great Customary Council of the Amerindian and Bushinue populations;
° Commitment by the State as early as 2017 to the doubling of the Larivot bridge; An envelope of 100 million euros will be dedicated to the works;
° Commitment by the State of a first tranche of the doubling of the RNl between Cayenne and Macouria and the RN2 between Cayenne and Matoury for an amount of 100 million euros;
° Launch of studies of a second tranche of the doubling of the RN1 for an amount of work in the order of 100 million euros;
° Commitment of the State to launch in 2017 the work of elaboration of a fiscal and social pact in Guyana to promote the restart of the economy;
° Payment of a cash advance of 4.5 million euros to the CTG to enable it to settle the invoices of the carriers;
° For fishermen and farmers, payment of aid managed by the Payment Services Agency up to 3.5 million euros for fishermen and 5.5 million euros for farmers and immediate dispatch of a mission Expertise to accelerate aid files and support GTC services;
° Establishment of two nautical facilities (type GRAGE with its crew for the eastern and western borders) and, in the meantime, the immediate use of the interministerial vessel GRAGE intensively against illegal fishing in the East;
° The State immediately notifies the European Commission that the new system of aid specific to the timber industry is subject to the general block exemption regulation (GERD);
° Transformation into an exceptional equilibrium subsidy of a loan of € 53 million granted by the AFD and the Caisse des dépôts et consignations, in order to allow the CTG to pay its bills in respect of Guyanese companies;
° The government will increase the share of CTG in the SRA compensation fund to € 50 million in 2017 and will maintain it at an equivalent level in 2018 and 2019, for a total of € 150 million;
° State payment to the CTG of € 9 million to offset the transfer to the municipalities of the share of the proceeds from dock dues in 2017.


In addition, the draft agreement of Guyana - Protocol "Pou Lagwiyann ​​Dékolé" proposed by the Overseas Minister on 2 April included statements of decisions following workshops initiated by the State during the night of 1 ° 'To 2 April. These statements of decisions have not yet been formally agreed with the Collective.
Moreover, this same draft of the Guyana Agreement - "Pou Lagwiyann ​​dékolé" protocol recalled that the Government could be informed by the Congress of elected representatives of Guyana of a draft of the statutory changes to be replied to in accordance with the provisions of Article 72-4 of the Constitution.
For this reason, the Pou Lagwiyann ​​Dékolé Collective and the elected officials of Guyana then sent the Government an additional request for very urgent measures amounting to € 2.1 billion to fill the gaps in public facilities and to relaunch Opening up of
Isolated communes and the interior of Guyana.
The total cost of emergency measures requested by the Collective and the elected representatives is now € 3.119 billion. This figure is to be compared with the amount of nearly 5 billion €, over a 5-year deadline, proposed by the elected representatives in the framework of their work on the
Pact of the future in its version of September 12, 2016.
On April 4, 2017, a demonstration by the population of the same magnitude as the preceding ones led the Collective to request an audience with the director of the Guyanese Space Center and the president of the National Center for Space Studies By letter of April 9, 2017 addressed to the president of The Prime Minister confirmed clearly the contingency plan for Guyana adopted by the Council of Ministers on 5 April 2017 for an amount of 1.086 billion euros, without prejudice to the tax and social pact and without prejudice Further consideration of additional measures.


On 10 April 2017, in response to their letter, the President of the Republic sent a letter to Parliamentarians saying:
"This contingency plan will have to be supplemented by medium- and long-term measures which will find their place in the convergence plan for Guyana [...]. Complementary proposals which, after consultation with the State, e'las, the collective and other actors of civil society, will be included in the convergence plan. "" The draft protocol proposed to the Collective on Sunday 2 April Could thus be completed to support this approach ".
It follows that the collective analyzed this letter as a call for the resumption of dialogue and an invitation to negotiate an interruption of the movement on the basis:
- a supplement to the Contingency Plan with "additional measures";
- and a return to the draft Guyana Agreement - "Pou Lagwiyann ​​dékolé" protocol of 2 April 2017, which included the possibility for the State to examine a new application for a statutory change to be presented to it by the Congress Of the elected representatives of Guyana.
On 11 April the Collectif sent a letter to the Prime Minister reminding him of the insufficiency of the measures announced and asking him to take a stand on the quantified measures presented in agreement between the elected representatives and the Collective.
By letter dated April 12, 2017, with a view to the interruption of the con fl ict, the Parliamentarians, the President of the Territorial Collectivity of Guyana and the President of the Association of Mayors of Guyana requested an appointment with the President of the Republic, Accompanied by a delegation of
Collective.


THAT IS WHY
The State, represented by the prefect of the Guyana region,

- The president of the territorial community of Guyana,
- The parliamentarians of Guyana,
- The president of the association of mayors of Guyana,
- The Collective "Pou Lagwiyann ​​dékolé", represented by Mr. Davy RIMANE

Agree on the following elements which constitute the Guyana Agreement of 21 April 2017 - Protocol "Pou Lagwiyann ​​dékolé":

O short term:
° The elected representatives and the Collective take note of the Contingency Plan for Guyana drawn up by the Council of Ministers of 5 April 2017 and attached to this Agreement for the amount of 1,086 billion without prejudice to the fiscal and social pact and additional measures;
° The State takes note of the request for additional measures submitted on 4 April 2017 by the elected representatives and the Collective and amounting to 2.1 billion euros. It undertakes to ensure that they are promptly given priority consideration to plan and implement an additional investment and operating plan;
° The State undertakes to cede 250,000 ha of land (private property of the State) free of charge to the Territorial Collectivity of Guyana and the communes. At the end of this transaction, additional free transfers could be envisaged. Moreover, the question of the State's land and its total retrocession will be on the agenda of the States-General of the Guyana Project 2017;
° The elected representatives and the Collective take note of the statements of decision resulting from the work carried out during the night from 1 to 2 April 2017. The unfinished discussions within the clusters of the Collective must be finalized as soon as possible. These records of decisions shall be annexed to this Protocol;
° The State, the elected representatives and the Collective, recalling the terms of the draft agreement of Guyana - Protocol "Pou Lagwiyann ​​Dékolé" of 2 April 2017, drawn up by the State services: "the Government may be Congress of the elected officials of Guyana of a statutory or institutional project to which will be answered in accordance with the provisions of article 72-4 of the Constitution ", agree:
 - That the Government will be the subject of a referral by the Congress of the Elect of Guyana of a draft of the Statute, if necessary, by reference to the draft agreement on the future of Guyana adopted on 29 / 06/2001, and by extension to the Guyana Project. The President of the Territorial Collectivity of Guyana will convene a Congress for the opening of the works of the General States of the Guyana Project in 2017;
 - That, therefore, the Government will have to respond to this project in accordance with the provisions of Article 72-4 paragraph 2 of the Constitution. At the same time, the government is committed to making the necessary arrangements for the publication of a decree convening the Guyanese electorate for a public consultation on the statutory evolution according to a negotiated timetable between the CTG and the State.

O In the medium term:
The Elected, the Collective and the State agree on the future development of the Guyana Project resulting from the work of the States General, which will have longer-term ambitions for Guyana and will be discussed in tripartite format. State - Elected officials - Civil society.

O In any case:
The signatories undertake not to institute any disciplinary, civil, criminal or administrative proceedings (including road traffic offenses) against the participants in the movements of claims from February to April 2017.

This Guyana Agreement - "Pou Lagwiyann ​​Dékolé" Protocol includes this document as well as the Guyana Contingency Plan, annexed decision statements, ministerial letters referring to them and records of decisions, all forming a set of even
Legal value.
This Guyana Agreement - "Pou Lagwiyann ​​dékolé" Protocol is intended to supplement any document or accompanying plan drawn up by Guyanese public authorities. This agreement will be subject to interministerial validation under the aegis of the Prime Minister.
A follow-up committee of this Agreement, consisting of representatives of the State, the parliamentarians of Guyana, the Pou Lagwiyann ​​Dekolé Collective and the territorial communities of Guyana will meet at regular intervals on the initiative of one of the parties , To ensure the implementation of this Agreement.
The proceedings will be communicated to the local and national print and audiovisual media for publication.
Consequently, the Collective decides the lifting of the dams set up in the various communes of Guyana, upon signature of this Agreement by the parties and validation.
This protocol shall be published in the Official Gazette of the French Republic.


Done at Cayenne, on 21 April 2017,
'Signatories

The Prefect of the Guyana region
Martin JAEGER

For the collective << Pou Le Lagwiyann ​​dékolé)
Davy RIMANE

The President of the Territorial Collectivity of Guyana
Rodolphe ALEXANDRE

The Senator of Guyana
Georges PATIENT

The Senator of Guyana
Antonie KARAM

The deputy of the 2nd riding of Guyane
Chantal BERTHELOT

The deputy of the first riding of Guyana
Gabriel SERVILLE

The President of the Association of Mayors of Guxane
David RICHÉ

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Re: French Guyana protests - discussion and impact on launches
« Reply #91 on: 04/22/2017 11:13 AM »
They got the 2.5 billion euros they wanted, albeit there might put some pressure on the new government in may and june.

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Re: French Guyana protests - discussion and impact on launches
« Reply #92 on: 04/22/2017 02:50 PM »
Heard on the radio : Arianespace CEO claims the the protests cost the company around 500 000 €/day and around 10 000 000€ in total.

EDIT : Just remembered, he also added that he feels like Guyana was in a profound crisis, but since the negotiations allowed the protesters to obtain what they asked for, and since 3 billion € to invest is something that guarantees investments in Guyana's infrastructures will happen for a long time, this should bring a lot of stability to the place and guarantee that no such crisis should happen for a long time.

I May go back to the radio's website and try to find the exact quotation, but I think it about sums it up.

2nd EDIT : Managed to find the interview : http://www.francetvinfo.fr/economie/crise-en-guyane/fin-du-conflit-en-guyane-arianespace-a-perdu-500-000-euros-par-jour-pendant-cette-crise-qui-a-dure-plus-d-un-mois_2157583.html

Question : "There is 1bn€ that is assigned and 2bn€ where we have to wait for the next government to validate it, which means that it could start again. Isn't that a problem for your clients ?"
Answer : "I don't think it will start again, because this is a very strong agreement that was signed. This 1bn€ will take some time to be spent and the 2bn€ that are expected is also a prospect that will take some time to happen. So I think that not only the situation will calm down, but it will do so for a long time. It was a very big crisis, but once that crisis is over, you come back much stronger, and that is what I expect to happen here. "

About the cost :
"It is a bit early to evaluate precisely the costs but it is certain that this month will have cost a lot. [...]. It may have cost up to 500 000€/day to Arianespace and all the partners of the space centre. [...] There is one important parameter, which is that if we can operate our 12 launches, which we are still very committed to do, the costs will be fairly limited. It is important both for us and our clients."

Other interesting elements grabbed from the interview :
 - The space centre employs directly 1700 people that live there permanently, and generates 9000 jobs overall, plus the people on mission that come to the space centre whenever there is a launch.
 - It generates 16% of the PIB of French Guyana, 16% of the jobs, and 40% of the private income.
 - Arianespace finances some social stuff like companionship and some student fellowship and is ready to do more if they can afford to. Overall, if it doesn't cost too much money, they are ready to support actions that could allow better relations with their environment,. they are and will continue to seek actions that could be developed in that direction, in coordination with local authorities.
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« Reply #93 on: 04/22/2017 04:56 PM »
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All open. Full🚀operations restart Monday. We express to our dear customers our apologizes & we thank them for their support and patience.

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