Overnight sit-in at Europe spaceport office ends; demonstrators reject Fr govt response; still want CNES to plead their case to govt.
I've read elsewhere that partly discontent is due to locals feeling that the French treat them as second class citizens?
Quote from: Star One on 04/05/2017 02:50 PMI've read elsewhere that partly discontent is due to locals feeling that the French treat them as second class citizens?It's a bit more complex than that (oversea french territories have a complicated status), but the general idea seems about right. In particular, crime rates have reached frightening levels and locals don't feel their safety is assured. But demands include also concerns about health, education and more. All pretty backed up by the statistics. Of course these figures are not new, but there was supposed to be a plan to invest in the government infrastructures here to enable these discrepancies to fade away, and the locals feel that the issue is being neglected by governments. With the presidential elections coming shortly, they both want actions from a government that has not upheld its promises during the last term, and probably also strong signs from the candidates that they actually care about Guyana.
The issue is that the spaceport needs high-skilled employees of which very little come from French Guyana itself.
Indirect jobs - probably a lot (teachers, nannies, the like). High-skill jobs - probably not much. Most come from the Metropole and Europe.
Europe's spaceport: Roadblocks still up, Ariane/Euro Soyuz (& much of Fr Guiana economy) still down. No off-ramp from crisis imminent.
Quote from: Archibald on 04/05/2017 03:47 PMIndirect jobs - probably a lot (teachers, nannies, the like). High-skill jobs - probably not much. Most come from the Metropole and Europe.Has their been consideration of schemes to provide facilities to educate and train locals into the more skilled rolls?
The last days brought a few articles in the press. From those articles, an unchecked.French Guyana is part of France, part of the EU and NATO. It not part of the Schengen zone. Being an EU border makes local imports more difficult and expensive as it would be otherwise. EU citizens can move to and work in French Guyana without restrictions. The reverse is of course also true. Doing this in reality is much harder because of things like:Graduate school?40% of the pupils don't graduate school. At all.15% of the population has access to potable water. The official unemployment number is ~22%, and has been that high for decades. (France ~10%)For those under 25 years the official unemployment number is 46.5%. (France ~24%)Half the GDP of France, 45% higher food prices.Arianespace is the biggest part of the economy. Tourism is next and growing. Forestry, tropical hardwoods, is also big. There is some agriculture at the coast for local consumption and crab fishing mostly for export. Gold mining closes the list.Illegal gold mining is a major and long lasting cross border issue. Crime and serve pollution of the environment.250k people in French Guyana. It is not the poorest oversea department but has the highest murder rate in France, averaging to once a week.26k live in Kourou. Neighborhoods with Arianespace employees are easy to find at night, they are the ones with streetlights.The main demands are: Higher wages, more workplaces, money for social infrastructure [schools, clinics], more support for the farmers, better protection of small local businesses. Additional demands include: more police, deporting illegal immigrants.One of the overarching complaints is that the government did not act on its past promises. This is not the first conflict, just the most visible and longest. The upcoming presidential election adds visibility, the fear that the protests spread into other poor departments adds urgency for the politicians.The clinic and medical situation is one of the old promises, the demand is for something more local than a ticket on the next plane to France for even slightly complicated issues.One observation: When the guys with the balaclavas who are enforcing the strike are the ones demanding more police there is something odd here.Again, sourced via this weeks news and magazine articles and not fact checked. (Turns out that is hard if you don't speak French.)
Illegal gold mining is a major and long lasting cross border issue.
for the reporting, its slightly one sided and with incorrect facts, maybe open a discussion thread somewhere, and use this for actual updates.
How long would this have to go on to impact on the JWST launch, or will whatever other payloads are in front of it have to be juggled round to insure it still launches on time?
Quote from: Star One on 04/07/2017 08:28 AMHow long would this have to go on to impact on the JWST launch, or will whatever other payloads are in front of it have to be juggled round to insure it still launches on time?I was going to say "JWST is still years away from launch" then reminded 2018 is next year (!). Then again, JWST isn't a space probe, it has no launch window.