He said ABS-8 will cost “an order of magnitude less” than current-generation geostationary satellites, a feature Choi said is necessary if the satellite industry is to survive the onslaught of terrestrial broadband competition.
He is discussing cost on a per megabit basis.
Ah, yes, I missed that bit in the previous paragraph. Still, I imagine there must be some reduction in the base cost of the satellite to achieve a tenfold decrease in the data throughput cost.
Quote from: Owlon on 06/01/2015 06:04 pmAh, yes, I missed that bit in the previous paragraph. Still, I imagine there must be some reduction in the base cost of the satellite to achieve a tenfold decrease in the data throughput cost.It is already a smaller spacecraft than others. Mass ~cost.
Moore's Law notwithstanding, I wouldn't be suprised to see Cube sats doing the same job at some of the more huge Telecom and Weather sats in the not too distant future. At an altitude of 600Km, most of teh Cube sats would be able to give continious, highly detailed weather info from multiple angles and Telecom sats could network on orbit, providing incredible levels of broadband capibilities.
By end 2017 they should have choice of F9R at considerably lower launch price <$50m or second payload to half price $35m.
Quote from: TrevorMonty on 06/01/2015 07:36 pmBy end 2017 they should have choice of F9R at considerably lower launch price <$50m or second payload to half price $35m.I believe there have been tweets out of SpaceX for negotiations for possible customers for a F9R at the price of ~$40M. Just how real this price is is a question but it jives with conservative eco models for a reused 1st stage (10 times reuse). If ABS goes this raoute as a sole rider they will incurr only a $10M increase in price over their earlier ride cost.
Quote from: Zed_Noir on 06/02/2015 12:59 amQuote from: oldAtlas_Eguy on 06/01/2015 08:16 pmQuote from: TrevorMonty on 06/01/2015 07:36 pmI believe there have been tweets out of SpaceX for negotiations for possible customers for a F9R at the price of ~$40M. Just how real this price is is a question but it jives with conservative eco models for a reused 1st stage (10 times reuse). If ABS goes this raoute as a sole rider they will incurr only a $10M increase in price over their earlier ride cost.If using a F9R with one 702SP satcom. Would the F9R be able to do GSO insertion directly?I don't think the current us has the ability to do the long multi hour coast needed.
Quote from: oldAtlas_Eguy on 06/01/2015 08:16 pmQuote from: TrevorMonty on 06/01/2015 07:36 pmI believe there have been tweets out of SpaceX for negotiations for possible customers for a F9R at the price of ~$40M. Just how real this price is is a question but it jives with conservative eco models for a reused 1st stage (10 times reuse). If ABS goes this raoute as a sole rider they will incurr only a $10M increase in price over their earlier ride cost.If using a F9R with one 702SP satcom. Would the F9R be able to do GSO insertion directly?
Quote from: TrevorMonty on 06/01/2015 07:36 pmI believe there have been tweets out of SpaceX for negotiations for possible customers for a F9R at the price of ~$40M. Just how real this price is is a question but it jives with conservative eco models for a reused 1st stage (10 times reuse). If ABS goes this raoute as a sole rider they will incurr only a $10M increase in price over their earlier ride cost.
Quote from: kevin-rf on 06/02/2015 02:13 amQuote from: Zed_Noir on 06/02/2015 12:59 amQuote from: oldAtlas_Eguy on 06/01/2015 08:16 pmQuote from: TrevorMonty on 06/01/2015 07:36 pmI believe there have been tweets out of SpaceX for negotiations for possible customers for a F9R at the price of ~$40M. Just how real this price is is a question but it jives with conservative eco models for a reused 1st stage (10 times reuse). If ABS goes this raoute as a sole rider they will incurr only a $10M increase in price over their earlier ride cost.If using a F9R with one 702SP satcom. Would the F9R be able to do GSO insertion directly?I don't think the current us has the ability to do the long multi hour coast needed.Nothing that some solar panels and batteries couldm't fixed, if the upper stage have the Delta-Vee available.Just how much extra service life does a 702SP satcom get with a direct GSO insertion?
If using a F9R with one 702SP satcom. Would the F9R be able to do GSO insertion directly?
Quote from: Zed_Noir on 06/02/2015 02:38 amQuote from: kevin-rf on 06/02/2015 02:13 amQuote from: Zed_Noir on 06/02/2015 12:59 amQuote from: oldAtlas_Eguy on 06/01/2015 08:16 pmQuote from: TrevorMonty on 06/01/2015 07:36 pmI believe there have been tweets out of SpaceX for negotiations for possible customers for a F9R at the price of ~$40M. Just how real this price is is a question but it jives with conservative eco models for a reused 1st stage (10 times reuse). If ABS goes this raoute as a sole rider they will incurr only a $10M increase in price over their earlier ride cost.If using a F9R with one 702SP satcom. Would the F9R be able to do GSO insertion directly?I don't think the current us has the ability to do the long multi hour coast needed.Nothing that some solar panels and batteries couldm't fixed, if the upper stage have the Delta-Vee available.Just how much extra service life does a 702SP satcom get with a direct GSO insertion?Batteries alone are sufficient. Maybe a little extra thruster gas.
While problem neither are the hardest too solve. Lox boil off will be the biggest.
I don't think the current us has the ability to do the long multi hour coast needed.