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NASA's last space shuttle external tank to complete Endeavour L.A. exhibit
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-052815a-external-tank-et94-endeavour.html

It's a sight no one thought possible again: a complete NASA space shuttle – the winged orbiter, twin rocket boosters and a massive external tank, all authentic hardware – standing vertical as if the vehicle was about to blast off for space.

But come 2018, that's exactly what the California Science Center will be able to display, thanks to a newly-revealed agreement by NASA to donate its last remaining fuel tank built to launch the space shuttle.

"The ability to preserve an entire stack of flight hardware will make the [center's new] Samuel Oschin Air and Space Center an even more compelling educational experience," said Jeffrey Rudolph, president and CEO of the California Science Center, in an interview with collectSPACE. "It will allow future generations to experience and understand the science and engineering of the space shuttle."


Related photo gallery: NASA's last remaining space shuttle external tank (ET-94)

Previous discussion of ET-94's fate: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=29999.0

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #1 on: 05/28/2015 02:11 PM »
I'm glad that this LWT will be put on display somewhere rather than simply decomposing on its wheeled carrier in a parking lot.

Will SSP T&R funds be used to replace componentry onto ET-94?

The changes from Sept 2012 until May 2015 are marked.  That has to be a record amount of time for the ET's TPS to be exposed to the UV and other environmental factors. 

I assume that the tank wasn't stored in its typical N2 purged state?

I am still in awe that these tanks were essentially filled with cryogenic fluids making the tank weigh 1,687,000lbs at launch. It had an Orbiter and 2 SRBs attached to it, which accelerated man and machine from 0-17,500mph in 510 seconds. With the tank running dry at or about MECO on many occasions. 

Awesome machinery.
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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #2 on: 05/28/2015 03:01 PM »
Will SSP T&R funds be used to replace componentry onto ET-94?
The museum is likely to be on the hook for most/all of the work.  It's probably been a couple of fiscal years since any Shuttle-related money was appropriated.  Not sure there are any funds left over.

The changes from Sept 2012 until May 2015 are marked.  That has to be a record amount of time for the ET's TPS to be exposed to the UV and other environmental factors. 
It's going to be outdoors for a while longer before the barge trip, but I don't believe the tank was moved outside immediately after being returned to horizontal (there is at least one image from 2013 on L2, IIRC).

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #3 on: 05/28/2015 03:31 PM »
Will SSP T&R funds be used to replace componentry onto ET-94?

Most of the feed line and attach point hardware is already at the California Science Center, having previously been donated by NASA for use with the center's planned (but never built) replica tank. The remaining pieces will be handed over with ET-94 and then the science center will be responsible for their installation.

Some cosmetic repairs (foam reapplication) will completed before ET-94 leaves the dock at Michoud. The science center did not provide details as to how that is being handled.

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #4 on: 05/28/2015 05:02 PM »
Local coverage including overview of transportation of the tank.

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NASA gives California Science Center museum last remaining space shuttle fuel tank
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At about 66,000 pounds, it is less than half the weight of Endeavour.

The fuel tank will come to California the same way it was shipped to Kennedy Space Center in Florida — by barge. It will start a journey of 30 to 45 days at sea from NASA's Michoud Assembly Facility in New Orleans, where the fuel tanks were built by Lockheed Martin, and pass through the Panama Canal, ending up in Marina del Rey.

Then it will begin a daylong journey through the streets of Southern California to get to the Science Center near downtown Los Angeles.
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Once the external tank arrives at the Science Center, it will be stored horizontally in a temporary fabric building just north of the temporary home of Endeavour. The museum is hoping to have a transparent section of fabric that will allow visitors to peer at the tank from the outside.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-space-shuttle-20150528-story.html

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #5 on: 05/28/2015 06:32 PM »
ET-94's move to L.A. is slated for no earlier than this November... Can't wait! And I thought the Shuttle Parade of 2012 was just a once-in-forever opportunity.
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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #6 on: 05/28/2015 07:41 PM »
Wow, can't wait. How exciting.  I live here in Marina del Rey, so I'll be sure to be present when it comes.
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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #7 on: 05/29/2015 06:01 PM »
Not gonna lie, all this shuttle talk really makes me miss "The Girls".

I'm happy for CSC though. I can't wait to see a full stack again.

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #8 on: 05/29/2015 06:06 PM »
Did I miss the boosters?  Where are they getting authentic SRBs?

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #9 on: 05/29/2015 07:10 PM »
Did I miss the boosters?  Where are they getting authentic SRBs?

From the former ET/SRB display at the KSC Visitor Center entrance. As I understand it, the booster segments were "real" (Static Test Articles?) but the aft skirts were not (fiberglass?). So it remains to be seen how they will put the whole thing together. I can't imagine you'd want the stack assembled as it would really have been. I envision cutting into the tank somehow and having an internal, steel truss bear the Orbiter load at the attachment points. How long could the thin LH2 tank aluminum reliably carry the Orbiter and be safe in a seismic event?

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #10 on: 05/29/2015 08:09 PM »
The booster hardware is at Armstrong (formerly Dryden):
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-082912b.html

(This is also noted in the current collectSPACE story.  Attached a couple of shots I got when the Endeavour museum ferry stopped there in 2012; it was still in front of the Shuttle hangar at the time...not sure if that's still the case.)

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Yay! ET-94 gets a proper home! Beats being unloved in a MAF car park!

That's very good news.

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #12 on: 06/01/2015 05:29 PM »
Did I miss the boosters?  Where are they getting authentic SRBs?

From the former ET/SRB display at the KSC Visitor Center entrance. As I understand it, the booster segments were "real" (Static Test Articles?) but the aft skirts were not (fiberglass?). So it remains to be seen how they will put the whole thing together. I can't imagine you'd want the stack assembled as it would really have been. I envision cutting into the tank somehow and having an internal, steel truss bear the Orbiter load at the attachment points. How long could the thin LH2 tank aluminum reliably carry the Orbiter and be safe in a seismic event?

THAT is what I'm interested about.

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #13 on: 06/01/2015 05:42 PM »
THAT is what I'm interested about.

CSC have also said they're going to "stack" it horizontally and raise it to vertical, which makes me think even more that there has to be a strongback inside the tank. I don't think an ET will hold an Orbiter in the horizontal. To put it another way, how much weight can you stack on the side of a beer can versus on the top of it?

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #14 on: 06/03/2015 04:23 PM »
THAT is what I'm interested about.

CSC have also said they're going to "stack" it horizontally and raise it to vertical, which makes me think even more that there has to be a strongback inside the tank. I don't think an ET will hold an Orbiter in the horizontal. To put it another way, how much weight can you stack on the side of a beer can versus on the top of it?

That is also a good point.

I can't help but wonder if CSC truly understands what they plan on doing... Or are just speaking words.

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #15 on: 09/05/2015 10:52 PM »
I can't help but wonder if CSC truly understands what they plan on doing... Or are just speaking words.
It'd be downright silly to think that NASA has gone along with all this (not to mention all the people at the museum) without ever asking the question, "Hey, has anyone thought about how this will stay together over the long haul?"
It'd be a given there's a plan of some type there. Let's hope it's not the kind of 'plan' like the USS Intrepid people sold everyone on the Enterprise (building a big structure for it was the promise. A tent is what really came up instead, and their Concorde is still sitting on the dock, after a similar promise was made for that donation as well).  ???
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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #16 on: 11/12/2015 12:01 AM »
Seems to me I read, when this was decided in the summer, that shipping of this tank from Michoud to California Science Center for eventual vertical display attached to Space Shuttle Endeavour, could ocurr as early as 'late this year'.... Any updates from anyone? Thanks!
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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #17 on: 03/03/2016 09:21 AM »
NASA's last space shuttle external tank to cross oceans, L.A. streets for display
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-030316a-external-tank-et94-endeavour.html

NASA's last surviving external tank built to launch the space shuttle is about to embark on its final mission, but instead of rocketing to orbit, the fuel tank will travel by road and ocean to join a retired orbiter on display.

The California Science Center, which last May announced it was receiving NASA's External Tank 94 (ET-94) to mate with the space shuttle Endeavour for a new vertical launch pad-like exhibit to open in 2019, has now set the route and dates for the orange-brown tank's move from New Orleans to Los Angeles.

The journey, which will see the external tank pass through the Panama Canal and navigate the streets of L.A., comes almost three and a half years after Endeavour arrived atop a NASA jumbo jet and completed a similar road trip to the Science Center.


Photo credit: California Science Center/Dennis Jenkins

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #18 on: 03/03/2016 10:26 AM »
What are the other structures in storage in the picture?
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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #19 on: 03/03/2016 02:07 PM »
What are the other structures in storage in the picture?

They are the components of ET-GVTA (Ground Vibration Test Article).

Photo credit: California Science Center/Dennis Jenkins
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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #20 on: 03/03/2016 04:38 PM »
Los Angeles Times coverage of ET-94:

The 66,000-pound fuel tank of a space shuttle, the last of its kind, is on its way to L.A.

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Next month, ET-94 will be pulled on wheels by a specially built truck to a concrete pier in New Orleans. The truck will then move to the tank's backside and, using a specially built front bumper, gently push the tank onto a barge, Albrecht said. On April 12, ET-94 will be launched into the Intracoastal Waterway, where it will be pushed by a river tugboat.

After reaching open sea in the Gulf of Mexico, the river tugboat will be replaced by a 96-foot ocean tugboat. About three-quarters of a mile of braided steel cable will separate boat and barge to absorb shock from the waves, Albrecht said.

The tugboat and barge will travel for seven to nine days, around the clock, at about 6 knots (about 7 mph), Albrecht said. At the Panama Canal, it will wait a day or two in queue before going through six locks — a water staircase that will lift the vessel 85 feet to the level of Gatún Lake in the middle of the canal and then back down to sea level on the Pacific side.

From there, the tugboat will travel for 17 to 20 days to San Diego, where it will clear customs before its expected arrival at Fisherman's Village in Marina del Rey on May 18, according to the Science Center.

The tank — sitting atop dollies on a 42-wheel transportation device — will start its trek along city streets before dawn May 21. It will head to the 90 Freeway, on to Culver and Lincoln Boulevards, then to Westchester Parkway. It will go through Inglewood on Arbor Vitae Street to La Brea Avenue, drive past the Forum on Manchester Boulevard, then north on Vermont Avenue to the museum.

The 16.5-mile trek at about 5 mph is expected to take 16 to 18 hours.

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-shuttle-tank-20160303-story.html

edit: Add route text
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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #21 on: 04/11/2016 03:47 AM »

Last flight-qualified space shuttle fuel tank in existence begins its journey to L.A.


Quote from: Hailey Branson-Potts, Los Angeles Times
The journey began early Sunday when crews delicately pushed the 15-story space shuttle fuel tank from its outdoor perch outside NASA's Michoud Assembly Facility onto an ocean barge bound for Los Angeles.
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At the dock, where there was an Endeavour flag flapping in the wind, the tank was slowly driven over steel plates onto an ocean barge called Gulfmaster I. A white "work tug" boat that helped push the barge against the dock was dubbed the Dani Lynn.


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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #22 on: 04/11/2016 12:59 PM »
Last NASA space shuttle external tank set for LA to L.A. sea voyage (photos)

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A last-of-its-kind, very large artifact from NASA's space shuttle program is set to leave New Orleans this week on an almost 40-day ocean voyage to Los Angeles via the Panama Canal.

The remaining external tank built to fuel a space shuttle's launch into Earth orbit was rolled down a one mile-long (1.6 km) road and onto a barge on Sunday (April 10), two days ahead of its scheduled departure from NASA's Michoud Assembly Facility in Louisiana.

"It is a bittersweet day, [but] at the same time we like to celebrate history of the work that was done by the men and women here," said Bobby Watkins, director of the Michoud Assembly Facility. "With it moving over to California, that is going to open it up for millions of people to come and take a look at it, so we're very proud of that."

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #23 on: 04/11/2016 01:18 PM »
April 08, 2016
MEDIA ADVISORY MA16-001

Final External Tank At Michoud Embarks On New Mission Of Discovery

On Tuesday, April 12, External Tank, ET- 94, NASA’s only remaining space shuttle external tank, is embarking on a new mission of discovery as it journeys to the California Science Center in Los Angeles, where it will inspire visitors as part of the Space Shuttle Endeavour display. Members of the media are invited to participate in a sendoff ceremony for ET-94, as it leaves the port of NASA's Michoud Assembly Facility in New Orleans, on its journey to Los Angeles.

The send-off ceremony, begins at noon CDT, April 12, will include comments from Bobby Watkins, director of Michoud; Jody Singer, deputy director of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama; Parker Counts, former Space Shuttle Program manager; and Jeff Rudolph, president of the California Science Center. There will also be a ceremonial signing of a document transferring the rights to display ET-94 on behalf of NASA.

At 11:30 a.m., prior to the event's start, media will have an opportunity to interview ceremony participants.
Media who want to attend the event should contact Chip Howat at 504-214-6745, no later than 5 p.m. CDT, Monday, April 11.

Journalists attending the ceremony must report to the NASA Building 101 Visitor’s Lobby at 13800 Old Gentilly Road for badging no later than 11 a.m. Tuesday, April 12, to be granted access to the facility. Media will then be escorted into the facility to the event area. Official media credentials with photo identification are required for access.

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #24 on: 04/13/2016 11:59 AM »

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #25 on: 04/13/2016 06:06 PM »

Last space shuttle tank leaves New Orleans — by sea, not air — for its journey to L.A.

Quote from: Hailey Branson-Potts, April 12, 2016, Los Angeles Times
For the next five weeks, ET-94 will be strapped to an ocean barge. It will cross the Panama Canal, ride up the Pacific Coast and dock in Marina del Rey in mid-May. Then, like the space shuttle Endeavour before it ET-94 will ride through Los Angeles streets before arriving at the California Science Center in Exposition Park. There, it will go on permanent display with the Endeavour.

The above article has an attached slideshow of 21 photos, including the tank at sea and aerial shots.

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #26 on: 04/13/2016 06:25 PM »
Last flight-qualified space shuttle external tank sets sail for California museum

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NASA's last-existing, built-for-flight space shuttle external tank was launched Tuesday (Apr. 12) on a 40-day sea voyage from New Orleans to Los Angeles, 35 years to the day after the first such tank fueled the maiden flight of the iconic winged spacecraft.

And for more photos, see:

ET-94 sets sail: NASA's last space shuttle external tank leaves NOLA

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"Today is a milestone in history for Michoud and also for the space shuttle program. We bid farewell to NASA's last flight-certified external tank," said Bobby Watkins, director of the Michoud Assembly Facility. "It's hard to say goodbye but we know it is receiving the proper recognition by going to the California Science Center."

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #27 on: 04/13/2016 08:03 PM »
Last unflown space shuttle fuel tank leaves New Orleans

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Published on Apr 13, 2016
The last remaining unflown space shuttle external fuel tank, ET-94, left NASA's Michoud Assembly Facility in New Orleans, Louisiana on April 12, 2016. The tank will spend six to eight weeks traveling by barge to Los Angeles, California. There, it will be mated to space shuttle Endeavour, which is currently on display at the California Science Center Samuel Oschin Pavilion. A pair of solid rocket boosters will be added, and the completed vehicle will be rotated into launch position for viewing.

ET-94 was delivered to NASA in 2001 for future use on a dedicated science mission for shuttle Columbia. After the loss of Columbia in 2003, investigators dissected various parts of ET-94 to learn more about the foam shedding problem that led to Columbia’s destruction, and the tank never flew, making it the only flight tank left from the program.

Video by Jason Davis / The Planetary Society
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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #28 on: 04/14/2016 04:38 AM »
with pictures out on the water...

Last space shuttle tank leaves New Orleans — by sea, not air — for its journey to L.A.

LA Times April 13, 2016

(Make sure to click on photo gallery at the top and the embedded video halfway down the article).

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-shuttle-tank-move-20160413-story.html
« Last Edit: 04/14/2016 04:41 AM by catdlr »
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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #29 on: 04/14/2016 03:29 PM »
Are there anymore tanks at Michoud that are anywhere NEAR flight-ready? Perhaps someone could give a status of remaining tanks/tank parts at Michoud. Thanks! ;)

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #30 on: 04/15/2016 09:05 PM »
Are there anymore tanks at Michoud that are anywhere NEAR flight-ready? Perhaps someone could give a status of remaining tanks/tank parts at Michoud. Thanks! ;)
I think there are (or had been) a LOX tank and LH tank. Those and a few other parts are visible on satellite imagery from last year. (The complete looking one is ET-94)


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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #31 on: 04/15/2016 10:13 PM »
Are there anymore tanks at Michoud that are anywhere NEAR flight-ready? Perhaps someone could give a status of remaining tanks/tank parts at Michoud. Thanks! ;)
I think there are (or had been) a LOX tank and LH tank. Those and a few other parts are visible on satellite imagery from last year. (The complete looking one is ET-94)
Chris had an article from 2010 that described what was left when ET production stopped.  ET-139 had most of its pieces built, and there are a few dome sections from ET-140 and ET-141.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2010/06/sd-hlv-assessment-highlights-post-shuttle-solution/

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #32 on: 04/15/2016 11:07 PM »
Are there anymore tanks at Michoud that are anywhere NEAR flight-ready? Perhaps someone could give a status of remaining tanks/tank parts at Michoud. Thanks! ;)
I think there are (or had been) a LOX tank and LH tank. Those and a few other parts are visible on satellite imagery from last year. (The complete looking one is ET-94)
Chris had an article from 2010 that described what was left when ET production stopped.  ET-139 had most of its pieces built, and there are a few dome sections from ET-140 and ET-141.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2010/06/sd-hlv-assessment-highlights-post-shuttle-solution/
There's this L2 thread regarding a pending final disposition that I found using the forum's search function: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=29482.0

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #33 on: 04/16/2016 12:16 AM »
Related story:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/09/et-94-fate-unknown-last-remaining-external-tank-maf/

And a thread:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=29999.0

Those piece parts still needed a significant amount of work to become a Shuttle ET -- they're in a similar state to the current state of the piece parts for the first SLS core stage.  There's a lot of production and assembly beyond fabrication.

Robert noted up-thread that the elements that were staged outside with ET-94 at MAF were the Ground Vibration Test Article:
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=37690.msg1499072#msg1499072

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #34 on: 04/18/2016 03:41 PM »
Related story:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/09/et-94-fate-unknown-last-remaining-external-tank-maf/

And a thread:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=29999.0
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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #35 on: 04/25/2016 12:25 AM »
Progress report on ET-94's journey to the California Science Center, dated April 23: Last space shuttle tank reaches Panama Canal for crossing to Pacific

An interesting historical note:
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It is the fifth time in history that a shuttle fuel tank has traversed the famous shipping canal. Four tanks were shipped from the Louisiana factory to Vandenberg Air Force Base in California in the 1980s for polar-orbiting shuttle launches, then were shipped to Florida once the West Coast pad was cancelled by the Pentagon after Challenger.

Which ETs were pre-shipped to Vandenberg?
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« Reply #36 on: 04/25/2016 06:04 PM »
Which ETs were pre-shipped to Vandenberg?

The four external tanks staged at Vandenberg were ET-23 (to which Enterprise was mated), ET-27, ET-33 and ET-34. ET-23 flew on STS-27; ET-27 on STS-34; ET-33 on STS-36; and ET-34 on STS-31.

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #37 on: 04/25/2016 06:07 PM »
Last flight-qualified space shuttle external tank crosses Panama Canal

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A giant space shuttle fuel tank made for an unusual sight Monday (April 25) at the Panama Canal.

The 154-foot-long (47 meter) external tank, riding atop an uncovered flatbed barge, entered the famous waterway on its journey to the California Science Center in Los Angeles, where will be displayed with NASA's retired space shuttle Endeavour.

And for more photos, see:

Crossing oceans: Photos show shuttle external tank at Panama Canal

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The fifth space shuttle external tank to cross the Panama Canal – and the first to do so on an open-air barge — ET-94 is scheduled to take another 17 to 20 days to arrive at Marina del Rey in California. The external tank will then embark May 20 on an overnight road trip to Exposition Park, where the science center is located.

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« Reply #38 on: 04/27/2016 01:47 AM »
An earlier pic of ET-94 before it exited through the Miraflores lock today as it entered Pacific waters...

https://twitter.com/thepanamacanal/status/725031160401682432

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« Reply #39 on: 04/28/2016 04:10 AM »
Space Shuttle External Tank (ET-94) cruising through the Panama Canal!

Published on Apr 26, 2016
The only remaining flight-ready fuel tank from NASA's Shuttle program is well on her way from New Orleans to Los Angeles, via the Panama Canal. Here she is transiting through Lake Gatun, along the Canal route (thanks to GoPro for providing Hero 4 cameras to our mission!).

David Knight has other tank videos at this site:  https://www.youtube.com/user/IncredibleWorldViews/videos

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« Reply #40 on: 04/28/2016 04:21 AM »
found these two videos from the local Panama press..

Shuttle fuel tank Endeavuor passes through the Panama Canal

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Historic step was the fuel tank of the ship Endeavour, which rest in a museum in the United States




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« Reply #41 on: 04/28/2016 09:27 PM »
Current location of Shuttle Tank and Shannon Dann

source: http://californiasciencecenter.org/headlines/mission-26-et-comes-home
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« Reply #42 on: 04/28/2016 10:59 PM »
another panama canal passage video from the The Planetary Society:

Last unflown space shuttle fuel tank transits Panama Canal

Published on Apr 28, 2016
Two modern engineering marvels crossed paths this week in Central America, as the last unflown space shuttle external fuel tank passed through the Panama Canal during a multi-week voyage from New Orleans to Los Angeles.

YouTube Location: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=TLGqPaYdbIA

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« Reply #43 on: 04/29/2016 02:55 AM »
I was wondering if this passage caused any sightseeing along the canal?  Any crowds turn out to watch it??

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« Reply #44 on: 04/29/2016 02:59 AM »

An interesting historical note:
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It is the fifth time in history that a shuttle fuel tank has traversed the famous shipping canal. Four tanks were shipped from the Louisiana factory to Vandenberg Air Force Base in California in the 1980s for polar-orbiting shuttle launches, then were shipped to Florida once the West Coast pad was cancelled by the Pentagon after Challenger.

Which ETs were pre-shipped to Vandenberg?

The four external tanks staged at Vandenberg were ET-23 (to which Enterprise was mated), ET-27, ET-33 and ET-34. ET-23 flew on STS-27; ET-27 on STS-34; ET-33 on STS-36; and ET-34 on STS-31.

So, if those first 4 tanks were returned and flown, wouldn't this be the 9th time an ET has gone through the canal?  How else would they get to Florida?

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« Reply #45 on: 04/29/2016 03:17 AM »
I was wondering if this passage caused any sightseeing along the canal?  Any crowds turn out to watch it??

Check this video of all the curious that came out to see the passage.

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« Reply #46 on: 04/29/2016 07:22 PM »
Current location of Shuttle Tank and Shannon Dann 4/29/2016

source: http://californiasciencecenter.org/headlines/mission-26-et-comes-home

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« Reply #47 on: 05/01/2016 05:01 PM »
I so wish that we had STS operations on both coasts, launching both to the East and to the South.

ET-94 is well past the Panama Canal now.
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« Reply #48 on: 05/01/2016 05:26 PM »
Right now the Shannon Dann is making 7.3 knots.
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« Reply #49 on: 05/03/2016 03:54 AM »
Current location of Shuttle Tank and Shannon Dann 5/02/2016 08:00 PST

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« Reply #50 on: 05/04/2016 02:12 PM »
Off the most Southerly Oaxaca coast of Mexico.  Just about to head North.  Speed: 7.5 knots Heading:248º (as of 4 minutes ago)

She is a model bow, twin screw ABS load line certified tug. Powered by two EMD 8-645-E2 diesel main engines with Reintjes WAV 1651 reduction gears at a ratio of 4.00:1.00 turning via 7 1/2" shafts two 90" diameter by 76" fixed pitch four bladed stainless steel propellers shafts for a rated 2,400 horsepower.
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« Reply #51 on: 05/04/2016 08:23 PM »
Current location of Shuttle Tank and Shannon Dann 5/02/2016 08:00 PST

source: http://californiasciencecenter.org/headlines/mission-26-et-comes-home
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Current location of Shuttle Tank and Shannon Dann 5/06/2016 08:00 PST

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« Reply #53 on: 05/10/2016 05:27 PM »
Getting close to Baja California

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« Reply #54 on: 05/13/2016 06:39 PM »
Current location of Shuttle Tank and Shannon Dann 5/13/2016 08:00 PST

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #55 on: 05/14/2016 01:10 PM »
Space shuttle external tank bound for L.A. museum plays role in sea rescue
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-051416a-external-tank-ocean-rescue.html

The crew of a sunken fishing boat has a space shuttle external tank to thank for their rescue.

Three Americans and one Mexican were on the Maximus, a charter fishing boat, when it sank off the coast of Baja California on Thursday (May 12). Fortunately, its crew was able to make it safely onto a life raft to await the next ship to come along and pluck them out of the Pacific Ocean.

As it just so happened, that next vessel was the Shannon Dann, the towboat transporting NASA's last existing flight-qualified space shuttle external tank (ET) for the California Science Center.

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #56 on: 05/15/2016 12:09 AM »
The Shannon Dann is now passing Ensenada, only about 60 miles south of San Diego.

She's within range of terrestrial AIS receivers now; this one seems to be getting the most updates:
http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:400748/imo:7207748/mmsi:338533000/vessel:SHANNON%20DANN

ETA for the entrance to San Diego Bay is 6AM; looks on track to beat that by several hours.

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« Reply #57 on: 05/15/2016 12:19 PM »
The Shannon Dann is now passing Ensenada, only about 60 miles south of San Diego.

She's within range of terrestrial AIS receivers now; this one seems to be getting the most updates:
http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:400748/imo:7207748/mmsi:338533000/vessel:SHANNON%20DANN

ETA for the entrance to San Diego Bay is 6AM; looks on track to beat that by several hours.
Looks like she's in San Diego.  Speed zero for the last 2 hours.

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« Reply #58 on: 05/15/2016 05:59 PM »
Looks like the Shannon Dann and her cargo docked around 3:30 this morning.  A couple of flyover shots from this morning below.

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« Reply #59 on: 05/16/2016 04:11 AM »
Tugboat hauling space shuttle tank makes dramatic sea rescue

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On May 12, the sportfishing vessel Maximus sank off the coast of Baja California. All four passengers were forced to abandon ship in a small, orange lifeboat. The closest ship was the Shannon Dann, a tugboat towing the last unflown space shuttle external fuel tank to the California Science Center in Los Angeles.

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« Reply #60 on: 05/16/2016 05:18 AM »
Despite the rescue of the Maximus crew, there's been remarkably little coverage of ET-94 here in San Diego.  It's tied up at the 10th Street Terminal and there's a good view from the observation pier at Cesar Chavez Park.  I thought maybe there'd be at least some curious onlookers, but there was only one other photographer when I was there this afternoon.  The harbor police stopped by and asked if we knew what the thing was...  I sure hope it gets more attention up in LA!

For what it's worth, I can say I saw ET-94 today by air, sea, and land.  Overflight photos above; A friend of mine took me out on a sailboat this afternoon, and we were able to come right up alongside the barge:



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« Reply #61 on: 05/16/2016 05:19 AM »
The Shannon Dann, and the view from the pier at Cesar Chavez Park.

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« Reply #62 on: 05/16/2016 08:19 AM »
Great job WheelsStop for the pictures and your coverage.
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« Reply #63 on: 05/17/2016 04:24 PM »
The Shannon Dann got underway this morning around 7:30 PDT and is just outside San Diego Bay at this time.

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« Reply #64 on: 05/17/2016 10:26 PM »
This morning, about 10 miles off the coast of La Jolla.

They're using nearly a quarter mile of towline!

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« Reply #65 on: 05/18/2016 05:25 AM »
...and off into the sunset with Santa Catalina Island in the background.

They look to make port at Marina Del Rey well before sunrise.

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...and off into the sunset with Santa Catalina Island in the background.

They look to make port at Marina Del Rey well before sunrise.

Beautiful photos!

Our very own Philip Sloss is there for this and we'll have an article today.

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« Reply #67 on: 05/18/2016 01:08 PM »
Ahoy! I haven't posted in a while, but I'm watching from my apartment complex on the marina. :) ET tank sighted! The crane/gantry is set up over by Fisherman's Village. I unfortunately only have my camera phone and my binoculars, but feel free to use/modify any photos I post in this thread in an NSF article.
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Ahoy! I haven't posted in a while, but I'm watching from my apartment complex on the marina. :) ET tank sighted! The crane/gantry is set up over by Fisherman's Village. I unfortunately only have my camera phone and my binoculars, but feel free to use/modify any photos I post in this thread in an NSF article.

Awesome! Who needs PTZtv ;D

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« Reply #69 on: 05/18/2016 01:27 PM »
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Thanks again to all for the great photos!

Article by Philip Sloss now the arrival is complete!
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2016/05/et-94-los-angeles-road-trip-csc/

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« Reply #72 on: 05/18/2016 02:51 PM »
I tossed all the photos/videos from my phone this morning in original resolution in a Google Photos album, NSF granted full rights to use.

https://goo.gl/photos/HAJ9L6pkWY25ft4J9
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I tossed all the photos/videos from my phone this morning in original resolution in a Google Photos album, NSF granted full rights to use.

https://goo.gl/photos/HAJ9L6pkWY25ft4J9

Thanks again!

And Mass seemed to like the article ;D

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« Reply #74 on: 05/18/2016 08:24 PM »
local news tibits...

The tank has been off-loaded from the barge and is on the parking lot next to the temporary tent for the Friday evening party prior to the initial tow at midnight Friday.  Public can come over to view but are restricted by a fenced off area.

Space Shuttle External Fuel Tank Arrives in Marina del Rey


KTLA News (they did a video for the 1 p.m. news) I'll try to find this later when they post it. 

http://ktla.com/2016/05/18/space-shuttle-external-fuel-tank-arrives-in-marina-del-rey/

Updated:  select the first video on this page.
http://ktla.com/2016/05/18/ktla-armed-forces-week-the-u-s-coast-guard-and-the-arrival-of-e-t-94/


KNBC News:
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Photos-Shuttle-Fuel-Tank-New-Orleands-to-LA-379689211.html


KCBS News (With video) and Picture below
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/05/18/shuttle-tank-marina-del-rey/
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« Reply #75 on: 05/18/2016 08:34 PM »
some you tube videos:

Space Shuttle Fuel Tank Arrives Marina Del Rey

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Published on May 18, 2016
Space Shuttle Fuel Tank Arrives Marina Del Rey on 5/18

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« Reply #76 on: 05/18/2016 08:36 PM »
copter views of approach....

ET 94 Space Shuttle External Fuel Tank Arrives in LA (5-18-16)

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Published on May 18, 2016
ET-94, will work its way through the streets of Los Angeles County later this week to its final resting place at the Space Museum

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« Reply #77 on: 05/18/2016 08:40 PM »
I've updated my post above "local news reports"  with a video from KTLA news:

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=37690.msg1536136#msg1536136
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« Reply #78 on: 05/18/2016 08:42 PM »
Thanks you all for the great coverage and Philip for the great article! :)
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« Reply #79 on: 05/18/2016 08:42 PM »
Here is the local FOX TV news and video...

FOX Los Angeles News
http://www.foxla.com/news/local-news/142545894-story

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« Reply #80 on: 05/18/2016 08:46 PM »
I plan to drive over this afternoon to visit it, it's just three blocks away.  I'll attempt to take some pictures but I think the ones posted in the thread above and news links will be better.  I do plan to be on site Friday midnight for the start of the move and follow it until it leaves the Marin area.

Upadate:  I had to laugh at my own comment.  Only in Los Angeles do we drive to go somewhere three blocks away.  :o
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« Reply #82 on: 05/18/2016 08:54 PM »
thanks for the lift....

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I plan to drive over this afternoon to visit it, it's just three blocks away.  I'll attempt to take some pictures but I think the ones posted in the thread above and news links will be better.  I do plan to be on site Friday midnight for the start of the move and follow it until it leaves the Marin area.

Upadate:  I had to laugh at my own comment.  Only in Los Angeles do we drive to go somewhere three blocks away.  :o

Cool! The more photos, the better. :)

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« Reply #84 on: 05/18/2016 10:05 PM »
I plan to drive over this afternoon to visit it, it's just three blocks away.  I'll attempt to take some pictures but I think the ones posted in the thread above and news links will be better.  I do plan to be on site Friday midnight for the start of the move and follow it until it leaves the Marin area.

Upadate:  I had to laugh at my own comment.  Only in Los Angeles do we drive to go somewhere three blocks away.  :o

Cool! The more photos, the better. :)

It's hard to beat PSloss pictures he's posting on L2.  He apparently got a Press pass.  I wouldn't be able to get that close until the move on Friday evening.
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« Reply #85 on: 05/19/2016 02:17 AM »
A few more taken this evening. It's kind of far away, so not the best quality. I did catch a playful sea lion in the foreground of the first couple photos, though. ;)
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« Reply #86 on: 05/19/2016 04:50 PM »

For all there in LA:  enjoy the move through the streets--should be quite a spectacle!   Re: final posture in the vertical:  I'm sure glad I visited Endeavour at CSC in her current config--it was great to see the umbilical wells up-close, as well as the TPS, etc etc.

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« Reply #87 on: 05/19/2016 10:54 PM »
Not sure what is in the L2 section but here are some of my images from the off load in LA yesterday.
http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/gallery/nggallery/events/ET-94-journey-to-California-Science-Center

Is anyone else planning on watching it travel through the streets? I'll be around, blue backpack.

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« Reply #88 on: 05/20/2016 12:55 AM »
Some photos I took in Marina del Rey today..

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« Reply #89 on: 05/20/2016 08:33 AM »
Not sure what is in the L2 section but here are some of my images from the off load in LA yesterday.
http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/gallery/nggallery/events/ET-94-journey-to-California-Science-Center

Is anyone else planning on watching it travel through the streets? I'll be around, blue backpack.

I'll be in the area of Mindanao and Lincoln to the Marina Freeway.  Tony De La Rosa.

Those interested in viewing the tank Friday, I've provided an overhead shot where there is a free parking and a short walk.  Don't attempt to park at any other location, either private slip parking for expensive restaurant parking, also CHP is out patrolling for violators.

Take state 90 (The marina freeway) west from the 405, exit at the end, left onto Mindanao, left at Lincoln, right at Fiji Way, parking on the right.
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« Reply #90 on: 05/20/2016 07:00 PM »
Approximate time / locations during the transport.

Leave Marina ­ Approximately 12:01 am, May 21, 2016


Arbor Vitae between Inglewood Ave. and Rosewood Ave. ­ Approximately 8:00 to 9:30 am


Manchester & Vermont ­ Approximately 2:30 to 4:00 pm


Vermont & MLK ­ Approximately 6:30 to 8:00 pm


Expo Park ­ Approximately 7:30 pm to 9:00 pm

Straight driving pace: 5 mph.
Corners are expected to take ~ 30 minutes.

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ET-94's Journey Across Los Angeles and Inglewood and Arrival at the California Science Center

What: "Mission 26: ET Comes Home" still has over 16 miles left to go, through the streets of Los Angeles and Inglewood. ET-94 will be placed on dollies and pulled by a truck to its final destination near the California Science Center's Samuel Oschin Pavilion in a 18-20 hour journey on May 21, 2016. On the way, the external tank will cross over the 405 freeway, and pass landmarks like The Forum.

"Mission 26: ET Comes Home" will come to an official end at the California Science Center, when ET-94 arrives at its future home. The journey will come to a ceremonial end in Exposition Park on Bill Robertson Lane with a photo opportunity as ET-94 crosses a paper chain finish line made by elementary school students at the on-site Alexander Science Center School. The photo opportunity will take place near the intersection of Exposition Park Drive/Bill Robertson Lane, in front of the Los Angeles Coliseum. The sidewalks will be available to all media for the photo opportunity, and for those wanting to view ET-94 before it turns into its future display location next to the California Science Center's Samuel Oschin Pavilion. The public will also have access to the sidewalk on Bill Robertson Lane and Exposition Park Drive. A restricted area for media only will be available across the intersection after 6:15 pm, soon before ET-94 is expected to enter Exposition Park. If you wish to have access to this area, you may show a business card or badge/ID card from your outlet. No credentials of any sort are required for the sidewalks.

Media are also welcome to film on State Drive near the Samuel Oschin Space Shuttle Endeavour Display Pavilion, as ET-94 is placed onto the concrete pads and positioned for display. California Science Center spokespeople will be available in this area for interviews at the conclusion of the operation. Parking for satellite vans will not be available directly next to the Samuel Oschin Space Shuttle Endeavour Display Pavilion -- media parking on State Drive will not be possible past the back doors of the California Science Center, since the area near the pavilion will be used as a work zone. Instead satellite vehicle parking will be available on Exposition Park Drive.

When: Saturday, May 21, 2016
Leave Marina -­ Approximately 12:01 am, May 21, 2016
Arbor Vitae between Inglewood Ave. and Rosewood Ave. ­- Approximately 8:00 to 9:30 am
Manchester & Vermont -­ Approximately 2:30 to 4:00 pm
Vermont & MLK -­ Approximately 6:30 to 8:00 pm
Expo Park -­ Approximately 7:30 pm to 9:00 pm
*Please note these are approximate timeframes when ET-94 may be passing by specific locations. All projected times are subject to change at any point on May 21, 2016, the day of the transport.

Where: The route is as follows –

    Marina Del Rey parking lot to Fiji Way
    Fiji Way to Lincoln (PCH)
    Lincoln to Mindanao Way
    Mindanao Way to CA-90
    CA-90 to Culver Blvd
    Culver Blvd. to Lincoln via transition ramp
    Lincoln to Loyola Blvd
    Loyola Blvd. to Westchester Pkwy
    Westchester Parkway turns into Arbor Vitae St. at Airport Blvd; Arbor Vitae St. to La Brea Ave
    La Brea Ave. to Manchester Blvd
    Manchester Blvd. to Vermont Ave
    Vermont Ave. to Martin Luther King Blvd
    Martin Luther King Blvd. to Exposition Park

The conclusion will be in Exposition Park, Los Angeles

Media are urged to enter the museum property from Figueroa and 39th St/ Exposition Park Drive, and park in the main parking structure, though satellite vans/trucks may park along Exposition Park Drive, along the curb next to the Coliseum. Much of State Drive will be taken up by work vehicles and cordoned off, and parking will not be available west of the back entrance of the Science Center.

Who: California Science Center spokespeople, including President and CEO Jeffrey Rudolph, will be along the route, along with the following astronauts, who will rotate availability throughout the day:

Daniel W. (Dan) Bursch
Andrew J. (Drew) Feustel
Edward Michael (Mike) Fincke
Kenneth T. (Ken) Ham www.AstronautKenHam.com
Kathryn P. (Kay) Hire
Sandra H. (Sandy) Magnus
John D. (Danny) Olivas  www.AstronautDannyOlivas.com | @OMS117
Charles J. (Charlie) Precourt
Garrett E. Reisman www.AstronautGarrettReisman.com | @astro_g_dogg
Richard A. (Rick) Searfoss
Steven R. (Steve) Swanson www.AstronautSteveSwanson.com

General Info: Please visit www.californiasciencecenter.org for more information on "Mission 26:ET Comes Home."

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #92 on: 05/21/2016 05:55 AM »
Visited the ET-94 parking area at sunset before its midnight rollout from Marina Del Rey  Good size crowd of onlookers genuinely interested in the spectacle. Overheard some interesting conversations including "Where do the astronauts sit?" "is this full of fuel?" and "is this the one that blew up?": :P  Well heeled crowd at the California Science Center's Discovery ball included a welcoming committee and some folks whom I'm not certain were actually astronauts.

Got a few interesting shots of hardware detail worthy of documentation as well.

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« Reply #93 on: 05/21/2016 07:45 AM »
Live from Marina del Rey at the parade start!
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« Reply #94 on: 05/21/2016 10:07 AM »
Was at the corner of Lincoln and Mindanao and got these.
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« Reply #97 on: 05/21/2016 10:12 AM »
That's that for me above.  Waited from midnight till 2:45 just to get these.  Truck waited forever at Fiji and Lincoln and then again at this corner.  I walked with it to the next intersection, just before the very tight turn onto the Freeway and than they had to stop again to take down a signal.  Decided to walk home two blocks away (it's cold).  At the rate it's going, it's going to take a long time to get across town.   Lot's of traffic guys, Power, communication works taking down wires, cops, fireman, just a legion of workers to get this baby down the road.
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That's that for me above.  Waited from midnight till 2:45 just to get these.  Truck waited forever at Fiji and Lincoln and then again at this corner.  I walked with it to the next intersection, just before the very tight turn onto the Freeway and than they had to stop again to take down a signal.  Decided to walk home two blocks away (it's cold).  At the rate it's going, it's going to take a long time to get across town.   Lot's of traffic guys, Power, communication works taking down wires, cops, fireman, just a legion of workers to get this baby down the road.

Great work Tony and all!

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« Reply #99 on: 05/21/2016 01:45 PM »
That's that for me above.  Waited from midnight till 2:45 just to get these.  Truck waited forever at Fiji and Lincoln and then again at this corner.  I walked with it to the next intersection, just before the very tight turn onto the Freeway and than they had to stop again to take down a signal.  Decided to walk home two blocks away (it's cold).  At the rate it's going, it's going to take a long time to get across town.   Lot's of traffic guys, Power, communication works taking down wires, cops, fireman, just a legion of workers to get this baby down the road.

Great work Tony and all!
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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #100 on: 05/21/2016 03:56 PM »
At Manchester and La Cienega. Looks like they'll be at CSC around 8pm local. Route map here:

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-space-shuttle-tank-arrives-20160521-htmlstory.html
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« Reply #101 on: 05/21/2016 04:53 PM »
It's just a bit larger than my hat!  Heading East on Arbor Vita near 405 freeway.
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« Reply #102 on: 05/21/2016 06:48 PM »
Followed the rollout of ET-94 from 12:45 AM to 9:30AM walking with the procession for the first two miles and then driving ahead to intercept at key areas with overhead or unique vantages.  Roll at one point was well behind schedule with more obstacles than planned in the route.  Roll is still ongoing and I will catch it again this evening before sunset.

Map study of the route paid off, The reflection of the tank captured in Ballona Creek was due to finding a small bridge paralleling the transit route and walking the extra 1/4 mile to stake it out at 4:50 AM. Despite thousands coming out to watch no one else thought to go there, thus leaving me the only one to obtain that amazing image.

Watching the speeding traffic suddenly slow to a crawl as the bulk of the tank emerged on the bridge over Interstate 405 was amazing, The awesome spectacle captured the imagination of even jaded So Cal commuters.

It seems at one point I was within 10 feet of NSF'er catdlr but did not know it. ;)

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« Reply #103 on: 05/21/2016 06:52 PM »
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« Reply #105 on: 05/21/2016 07:37 PM »
Awesome images Helodriver. I was wondering when I was out there at MdR this morning how many NSF'ers I was in the presence of :)

Noticed in your overhead images that the LOX feedline is missing. Does anyone know if CSC was able to procure one, or if they will have to replace it with a mockup?
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« Reply #106 on: 05/22/2016 12:04 AM »
Wow Helodriver, you must have walk just past me on images 10 and 11 above.  Wish I could have said HI.  Your doing us such a great service with all your input to NSF.   Thanks.
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« Reply #107 on: 05/22/2016 02:29 AM »
Awesome images Helodriver. I was wondering when I was out there at MdR this morning how many NSF'ers I was in the presence of :)

Noticed in your overhead images that the LOX feedline is missing. Does anyone know if CSC was able to procure one, or if they will have to replace it with a mockup?
I read somewhere that NASA still had most of the original removed parts, or equivalent spares, that were also donated along with the tank.

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« Reply #108 on: 05/22/2016 02:39 AM »
here is live video coverage if anyone is interested:

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/ET-94-Endeavour-Space-Shuttle-Fuel-Tank--380283091.html




Live video coverage has ended.  Hope your enjoyed it.
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« Reply #109 on: 05/22/2016 03:31 PM »
Some pics I took during yesterday's parade. I spent the whole day following ET-94 from Arbor Vitae and The Forum in Inglewood to the lawn outside Endeavour's pavilion at the California Science Center. What an adventure!
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« Reply #110 on: 05/22/2016 08:57 PM »

Fantastic!  The photos here are better than the feature display they have at CSC about bringing Endeavour from LAX--once again a "like" doesn't convey my/our appreciation to all!  Felt like I was there (as a photographer, the reflection shots are my fav, not that it matters).
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« Reply #111 on: 05/22/2016 09:26 PM »
One last batch of ET-94 chasing pics from the move up Vermont Avenue to the Expo center. Would have posted these last night but after 30 hours of straight awake time, I needed the break. :)  overall it was an excellent adventure, taking me to LA neighborhhds Id never visited, meeting fellow space geeks, astronauts, and being near (if not actually directly meeting) fellow NSFers.

The image of the tank crossing in front of the Challengers youth club I found particularly poignant.
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« Reply #112 on: 05/22/2016 09:28 PM »
Last ones. Had to be in at least one after that epic day. :)

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« Reply #113 on: 05/22/2016 10:08 PM »
Hi Helodriver,  Thanks for your picture (#024).  Now I'll recognize you for the next time.  Probably when a FS Falcon arriving on a barge at San Pedro.  Enjoyed your shots and angles.  Makes the event personal.  Tony
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« Reply #114 on: 05/23/2016 12:56 AM »
Thanks to all of you who documented this fascinating spectacle for those of us who live way too far away to come and see it for ourselves.

I will say, I was impressed by one of my local TV channels here in Minneapolis, this morning.  On their local news, they not only had a short item on ET-94's parade through the streets, the banner that ran under the story and on the "coming up" bumper read "ET-94 Moves to New Home."  It's refreshing to see a local news organization that doesn't feel the need to talk down to its viewers, since most news directors would dumb it down to "Space Shuttle Fuel Tank Rolls Through Streets" or something like that.

I do wish I had been able to be there.  It's something like this that gives you a better feel for the actual size of this hardware!
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« Reply #115 on: 05/23/2016 01:21 AM »
Great to see the folks turn out and express the continued "Shuttle-love"! :-* I can't see anything on the horizon as a space vehicle that will have the same effect on the average citizen. I've been fortunate to have seen the entire human space flight history live as it happened. That's one good thing about being older I guess... Thank you to all for the great coverage and maybe some day I'll get to see the finished exhibit. Well done! :)
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« Reply #116 on: 05/23/2016 03:10 AM »
Just thought I'd share a few more pictures since I took about 200 in all yesterday..
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« Reply #117 on: 05/23/2016 03:26 AM »
Just thought I'd share a few more pictures since I took about 200 in all yesterday..

Thanks TheFallen,  these are great as well.  Like how you get the public evolved in your shots.  The one from the roof top was fun.
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« Reply #118 on: 05/23/2016 02:47 PM »
The external tank has arrived! What's next for L.A. space shuttle display
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-052316a-et94-external-tank-what-next.html

"After everyone got a few hours sleep, the move continued this morning," wrote Dennis Jenkins, the Science Center's project director for its space shuttle Endeavour display, in an email sent on Sunday. "We now have ET-94 [parked] in its temporary storage location beside the pavilion housing Endeavour."

"[A] permanent fence will go up on Tuesday (May 24), then we will begin restoring the tank so that it can take its place in the Samuel Oschin Air and Space Center," Jenkins said.


(Our photo gallery from Saturday's move can be found here:  Space shuttle external tank completes road trip to CA Science Center.)

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« Reply #119 on: 05/23/2016 02:52 PM »
The ET-94 at the California Science Center- The Temporary Installation

http://ktla.com/2016/05/23/the-et-94-at-the-california-science-center-the-temporary-installation/
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« Reply #120 on: 05/23/2016 07:13 PM »
Great fun watching the move and Helodriver it was great to meet you, looking forward to seeing you at future events.

Some more pictures: http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/gallery/nggallery/events/ET-94-journey-to-California-Science-Center/page/2

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« Reply #121 on: 05/25/2016 12:14 AM »
Awesome pictures from everyone!  I am waiting for one of you to say that the other one actually capture them on film by accident!

I hope to see this display once it is finally set up, but a part of me still wishes this tank would have been used on a flight, and we had ended up on STS-136!

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« Reply #122 on: 06/03/2016 08:09 PM »
time lapse video...

Space shuttle fuel tank arrives in Los Angeles

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Published on Jun 3, 2016
The last remaining unflown space shuttle external fuel tank, ET-94, arrived at the California Science Center in Los Angeles on May 21 after a 41-day journey that began at NASA's Michoud Assembly Facility in New Orleans.

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #123 on: 06/05/2016 11:56 PM »
Went to the California Science Center again this morning to attend a free screening of the IMAX film "A Beautiful Planet," as well as to check out ET-94 at its current location...now fenced off so it can begin undergoing refurbishment
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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #124 on: 06/06/2016 02:02 AM »
Went to the California Science Center again this morning to attend a free screening of the IMAX film "A Beautiful Planet," as well as to check out ET-94 at its current location...now fenced off so it can begin undergoing refurbishment
Well its the last flight rated ET on earth, but there is still the ET STA at MAF that can be reassembled with a bit of work and given away. Smithsonian Institute has discussed some interest in the last few years in acquiring ET STA for future display. They have yet to start fundraising to bring it to the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center | National Air and Space Museum at Dulles International Airport, Chantilly, VA. There is also not currently an assigned space for it.

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #125 on: 06/06/2016 02:45 PM »
The tank parts at Michoud are from the GVTA (Ground Vibration Test Article). The STA is in Green Cove Springs, Fla., awaiting funding for transport and display by the Wings of Dreams Museum.

MPTA (Main Propulsion Test Article) is at U.S. Space & Rocket Center in Huntsville, Ala. on display with Pathfinder.
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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #126 on: 06/07/2016 03:23 AM »
The tank parts at Michoud are from the GVTA (Ground Vibration Test Article). The STA is in Green Cove Springs, Fla., awaiting funding for transport and display by the Wings of Dreams Museum.

MPTA (Main Propulsion Test Article) is at U.S. Space & Rocket Center in Huntsville, Ala. on display with Pathfinder.
thanks for the correction

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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #127 on: 06/26/2016 08:07 PM »
The tank parts at Michoud are from the GVTA (Ground Vibration Test Article). The STA is in Green Cove Springs, Fla., awaiting funding for transport and display by the Wings of Dreams Museum.

MPTA (Main Propulsion Test Article) is at U.S. Space & Rocket Center in Huntsville, Ala. on display with Pathfinder.

I can confirm the ET's still in Green Cove Springs rusting unhappily in a marina on it's trailer.

I came driving around a corner on my way home from St. Augustine today and was all: "HOLY SHEEP DIP! WTF IS A SHUTTLE ET DOING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD IN BUMBLF*CK FLORIDA?!?"

Here's a recent news blurb about it:
http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/organizations/nasa/failure-to-launch-full-scale-shuttle-external-tank-stuck-at-green-cove/

Once this thing is refurbished, I'd love to see doors at the fore and aft with a gangway running through the middle. It'd be great to tour one of these giants from the inside!
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Re: External Tank 94 (ET-94) to complete Endeavour exhibit
« Reply #128 on: 06/27/2016 06:01 PM »
I can confirm the ET's still in Green Cove Springs rusting unhappily in a marina on it's trailer.

ET-STA was on outdoor display for 19 years prior to leaving for Green Cove in April 2013. Aluminum doesn't rust; it may have corroded, but any corrosion would likely have been halted years ago.

Aluminum is actually very prone to corrosion. However, aluminum corrosion is aluminum oxide, a very hard material that actually protects the aluminum from further corrosion. Aluminum oxide corrosion also looks a lot more like aluminum (dull gray to powdery white in color), so it isn't as easy to notice as rusted iron.
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