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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #840 on: 04/04/2017 03:58 PM »
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Rocket Lab ‏Verified account @RocketLabUSA 15m15 minutes ago

Electron standing tall at @RocketLabUSA Launch Complex 1. First test flight in coming months. Stay tuned.

https://twitter.com/RocketLabUSA/status/849280022082981890
That is cool. Still a September launch though!

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #841 on: 04/04/2017 04:39 PM »
It's nice to see a new rocket vertical on a new pad!

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #842 on: 04/04/2017 05:29 PM »
Diminutive, battery powered, plastic rocket.  This will be interesting.

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #843 on: 04/04/2017 06:33 PM »
Diminutive, battery powered, plastic rocket.  This will be interesting.

Using the term "plastic" for carbon composite is not just unnecessarily insulting, it's also misleading at best and inaccurate at worst.

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #844 on: 04/04/2017 06:36 PM »
Diminutive, battery powered, plastic rocket.  This will be interesting.

Using the term "plastic" for carbon composite is not just unnecessarily insulting, it's also misleading at best and inaccurate at worst.


Like calling 787 a "plastic" plane...

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #845 on: 04/04/2017 07:27 PM »
Diminutive, battery powered, plastic rocket.  This will be interesting.

Using the term "plastic" for carbon composite is not just unnecessarily insulting, it's also misleading at best and inaccurate at worst.
Technically he is correct though as it is CFRP - Carbon Fiber Reinforced Plastic or Polymer. Either is accurate.

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #846 on: 04/04/2017 08:06 PM »
Diminutive, battery powered, plastic rocket.  This will be interesting.

Using the term "plastic" for carbon composite is not just unnecessarily insulting, it's also misleading at best and inaccurate at worst.

Not meant as an insult.  The first liquid fueled "plastic rocket" will make history.  LauncherOne is plastic too!

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #847 on: 04/09/2017 03:10 AM »
Diminutive, battery powered, plastic rocket.  This will be interesting.

Using the term "plastic" for carbon composite is not just unnecessarily insulting, it's also misleading at best and inaccurate at worst.


Like calling 787 a "plastic" plane...
F-18is often called "plastic bug"

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #848 on: 04/09/2017 11:32 PM »
Diminutive, battery powered, plastic rocket.  This will be interesting.

Using the term "plastic" for carbon composite is not just unnecessarily insulting, it's also misleading at best and inaccurate at worst.


Like calling 787 a "plastic" plane...
F-18is often called "plastic bug"

Interesting.. given there is so little CF in an F-18.

By comparison, the 787 gets the "plastic plane' moniker by virtue of it being the first commercial aircraft designed to be built using more CF composites than metal. ..which is also one reason (excessive weight) it took so long to get the first few literally off the ground.

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With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #849 on: 04/10/2017 03:18 AM »
More accurate to call it a graphite plane than plastic. Carbon fiber reinforced plastic is still mostly carbon fiber (i.e. graphite fiber).
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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #850 on: 04/11/2017 12:40 AM »
More accurate to call it a graphite plane than plastic. Carbon fiber reinforced plastic is still mostly carbon fiber (i.e. graphite fiber).

Sure.. but (a) "plastic plane" rolls off journo's tongues a little easier than "graphite plane" and (b) after years of sucking on lead pencils, Joe Public probably wouldn't recognise graphite even if he saw it.  ;)
 
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #851 on: 04/12/2017 04:15 PM »
More accurate to call it a graphite plane than plastic. Carbon fiber reinforced plastic is still mostly carbon fiber (i.e. graphite fiber).

Sure.. but (a) "plastic plane" rolls off journo's tongues a little easier than "graphite plane" and (b) after years of sucking on lead pencils, Joe Public probably wouldn't recognise graphite even if he saw it.  ;)
 
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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #852 on: 04/13/2017 01:12 AM »
Carbon plane!

Where you been the last decade or so? Carbon is a dirty word (physically and literally), don'tcha know?!? Think "carbon dioxide", "carbon emissions", "carbon pollution"...

If the general public ever discover RL's shiny black missile is made of carbon[1] and is destined to either (a) burn up in the atmosphere or (b) pollute the Southern Ocean, their PR credits would go negative in a heartbeat.
 

[1] = See what I did there?  I got this thread back on topic!  ;D

« Last Edit: 04/13/2017 01:14 AM by CameronD »
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #853 on: 04/13/2017 02:32 AM »
Carbon plane!

Where you been the last decade or so? Carbon is a dirty word (physically and literally), don'tcha know?!? Think "carbon dioxide", "carbon emissions", "carbon pollution"...

If the general public ever discover RL's shiny black missile is made of carbon[1] and is destined to either (a) burn up in the atmosphere or (b) pollute the Southern Ocean, their PR credits would go negative in a heartbeat.
 

[1] = See what I did there?  I got this thread back on topic!  ;D

I know - 'twas in jest.  "Carbon Plane" will be as successful as a lead zeppelin.  (To mix my metaphors)
« Last Edit: 04/13/2017 02:32 AM by meekGee »
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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #854 on: 04/13/2017 02:40 AM »
Composite
Scaled Composites

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #855 on: 04/13/2017 03:31 AM »
Composite
Scaled Composites

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With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #856 on: 04/13/2017 07:22 AM »
Cyclone hits area of Rocket lab launch site



"Heavy downpours, gale force winds of 150 kph and storm surges up to five metres are predicted to batter the east coast."

"A month’s worth of rain is expected to fall in the space of a day on the east coast, with the ground already sodden and covered in up to a metre of mud and debris."

Simulation of wind shows highest speeds at Mahia peninsula:

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-187.07,-44.68,1514/loc=128.371,-13.984?abcnewsembedheight=400
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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #857 on: 04/16/2017 05:18 AM »
New article, although I don't think any new info, on Rocket Lab & CubeSats:

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/04/how-a-6-million-launch-vehicle-could-transform-the-satellite-business/

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #858 on: 05/11/2017 04:05 PM »
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An exciting day for us as we unveil the mission patch for Its a Test - the first ever orbital launch attempt from a private facility.

https://twitter.com/rocketlabusa/status/862492473771347968

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #859 on: 05/11/2017 07:36 PM »
Rocket Lab has quietly set first test dates in a new NOTAM, 22 May - 3 June:-



NZ 106(T)/17 SOUTH PACIFIC – New Zealand – Hawke Bay, Bounty Islands and Southern Ocean. Rocket Launch and Space Debris

1. A hazardous rocket launch test operation will be taking place between 22 May and 3 June 2017 within the following zones: (Coords follow)

2. A marine reserve area will be in effect within Launch Hazard Area A in accordance with Hawke’s Bay Regional Council Navigation Safety Bylaw 2012 3.8.

3. Rocket Lab Range Control can be contacted in the vicinity of the Mahia Peninsula during launch operations on VHF...

4. Mariners are advised to exercise caution when navigating in and around the areas.

http://www.linz.govt.nz/sites/default/files/media/ntm/files/20170512-nz10-099109.pdf

Here's a plot of the debris boxes, showing flight path:-



Distance to far end of the first box is 1020km downrange, furthest point is 2195km.
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