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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #40 on: 11/23/2013 04:17 PM »
so the link between the sat and the command and control center is lost ====>launch failure .

That wouldn't cause a rocket to explode on the launch pad, as seen with one of the recent Safir failures.

I would add that the Nodong engine that powers the Safir first stage suffers from combustion instabilities.  It is not a very reliable engine (which is why the Soviets discarded it in the first place).  Further, if Iran is using homemade versions of the Nodong engine, I would expect the reliability to be worse than the Soviet/Russian built engines.  Bottom line is that we should not be surprised to see so many failures of Nodong and Shahab-3 missiles, Safir and Unha launchers.

Here it is !

new version ( 42 tons of thrust )

combustion chamber + turbopump + ... upgraded

we had so many problems with the combustion chamber ... exploded in one of the missions !!!

but now !

after so many works ... tests ... etc

we have a stable rocket engine ... with 42 tons of thrust !

& this is not the end !!!

we have another engine under development with 50 tons of thrust !
« Last Edit: 11/23/2013 04:21 PM by Soheil »
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #41 on: 11/23/2013 04:26 PM »
so the link between the sat and the command and control center is lost ====>launch failure .

That wouldn't cause a rocket to explode on the launch pad, as seen with one of the recent Safir failures.

I would add that the Nodong engine that powers the Safir first stage suffers from combustion instabilities.  It is not a very reliable engine (which is why the Soviets discarded it in the first place).  Further, if Iran is using homemade versions of the Nodong engine, I would expect the reliability to be worse than the Soviet/Russian built engines.  Bottom line is that we should not be surprised to see so many failures of Nodong and Shahab-3 missiles, Safir and Unha launchers.

Here it is !

new version ( 42 tons of thrust )

combustion chamber + turbopump + ... upgraded

we had so many problems with the combustion chamber ... exploded in one of the missions !!!

but now !

after so many works ... tests ... etc

we have a stable rocket engine ... with 42 tons of thrust !

& this is not the end !!!

we have another engine under development with 50 tons of thrust !
Can you check your sites to confirm or deny this date:
Thanks Satori. New information is that Tadbir is to be launched by Safir-1B "in the coming days". Tadbir has

* highly advanced navigation and photography facilities
* equipped with devices that will check the effects of space on living organisms (this might be a radiation dosimeter)
* made by the Space Research Laboratory of Tehran Science and Technology University
* possible to capture images with higher precision compared to Navid
my friend in Egypt says that an arabic forum hints maybe a launch NET Monday 25 November 2013 at the earliest but he and I are questioning accuracy of that date.
I'm also heard mention of 25-29 November as possible dates for first attempt.
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RH117
« Last Edit: 11/23/2013 05:39 PM by russianhalo117 »

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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #42 on: 11/23/2013 05:04 PM »
So maybe our friends at the Persian hills here can give the correct launch dates (and times) of the last 3 launches in 2012-13? It would be good for bookkeeping purposes. :)
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #43 on: 11/23/2013 05:21 PM »
As i know ... the rocket preparing for blast-off ... 90% next week ...

But the weather ...  :(

http://www.accuweather.com/en/ir/semnan/210904/weather-forecast/210904
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #44 on: 11/23/2013 05:25 PM »
As i know ... the rocket preparing for blast-off ... 90% next week ...

But the weather ...  :(

http://www.accuweather.com/en/ir/semnan/210904/weather-forecast/210904
Soheil, you and the other posters who live in Iran or in the Region please try to keep us up to date if you find anything new in terms of new news.

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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #45 on: 11/23/2013 05:56 PM »
As i know ... the rocket preparing for blast-off ... 90% next week ...

But the weather ...  :(

http://www.accuweather.com/en/ir/semnan/210904/weather-forecast/210904
Soheil, you and the other posters who live in Iran or in the Region please try to keep us up to date if you find anything new in terms of new news.

Sure ...  ;)

little worried about the launch !

increasing thrust means higher pressure on the engine ...  ???

engine passed all the tests ... but the final exam coming soon ... fly !  ::)
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #46 on: 11/24/2013 10:54 AM »
Any NOTAMs in the area for tomorrow?
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #48 on: 11/24/2013 02:27 PM »
No launch in next 6 months ... because of politics ... I feel really insulted !
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #49 on: 11/24/2013 03:19 PM »
No launch in next 6 months ... because of politics ... I feel really insulted !

Because of this accord?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/24/world/middleeast/talks-with-iran-on-nuclear-deal-hang-in-balance.html?hp&_r=0

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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #50 on: 11/28/2013 05:11 PM »
Surprise ...  :o ;D
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #51 on: 11/28/2013 05:28 PM »
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #52 on: 12/04/2013 09:26 AM »
Surprise ...  :o ;D

What is the surprise please?

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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #53 on: 12/04/2013 03:47 PM »
No launch in next 6 months ... because of politics ... I feel really insulted !

It is because of this accord

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/24/world/middleeast/talks-with-iran-on-nuclear-deal-hang-in-balance.html?hp&_r=0
I think this is the surprise.

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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #54 on: 12/04/2013 03:51 PM »

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Re: Iranian launch schedule
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #56 on: 12/05/2013 05:46 AM »
Thanks Olaf. The relevant quotes are

"Tehran is preparing to orbit two new home-made satellites by the end of the Iranian calendar year (March 20, 2014), a senior official in Iran's Space Agency (ISA) said.

"Tests are being conducted on the two satellites of Sharif and Tadbir before the launching process," Hamid Fazeli said."

So, if these launchers go ahead as planned , it would seem that the Accord does not apply to satellite launches.
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #57 on: 01/01/2014 12:41 AM »
Thanks Olaf. The relevant quotes are

"Tehran is preparing to orbit two new home-made satellites by the end of the Iranian calendar year (March 20, 2014), a senior official in Iran's Space Agency (ISA) said.

"Tests are being conducted on the two satellites of Sharif and Tadbir before the launching process," Hamid Fazeli said."

So, if these launchers go ahead as planned , it would seem that the Accord does not apply to satellite launches.
Most probably in the POV of Iran and its allies. AFAIK, the rest of the world at the UN thinks that the accord applies to satellite launchers because the accord declares them under the realm of military advancement projects as a missile development programme.

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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #58 on: 01/04/2014 10:19 AM »
Completed launches

Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)


2008.08.17 - (?) - Safir-1 - Semnan - test
2009.02.02 - Omid - Safir-1 (2) - Semnan - 18:34
2011.06.15 - Rasad - Safir-1A - Semnan - 9:15:03
2012.02.03 - Navid Elm-o-Sana't - Safir-1B - Semnan - 00:04
2012.05.23 - Fajr #1 - Safir-1B - Semnan - launch failure
2012.09.22 - Fajr #2 - Safir-1B - Semnan - launch failure
2013.02.17-18 - Fajr #3 - Safir-1B - Semnan - launch failure ( the payload injected too early )

Planned launches

Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)


2014
2014.02.03 - Sharif - Safir-1B - Semnan
TBD - Tadbir - Safir-1B - Semnan
TBD - Fajr - Safir-1B - Semnan
TBD - Nahid - Safir-1B - Semnan
TBD - Tolou - Simorgh - Semnan
TBD - Zafar - Simorgh - Semnan
TBD - AutSat (A Test, Amir Kabir-1, RU300) - Simorgh - Semnan
TBD - Mesbah-2 - Simorgh - Semnan

2015
TBD - Pars 2 - TBD - TBD
2015 - IranSat 1 - Simorgh - Semnan

2016
2016 - Pars sepehr - Safir-3A (Qoqnoos/Sepehr) - TBD

2017
TBD - IranSat 2 - Safir-3A (Qoqnoos/Sepehr) - TBD

2018
TBD - IranSat 3 - Safir-3B (?) (Sarir)  - chabahar
TBD - manned launch (suborbital) - TBD - chabahar

Unclear:
TBD - Masud 2 & Rasad 2 - Simorgh - Semnan
TBD - Ayaat - TBD - TBD
TBD - Saar - TBD - TBD
2019-2024 - manned launch (orbital) - TBD - chabahar
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #59 on: 01/04/2014 12:23 PM »
2014.02.03 - Sharif - Safir-1B - Semnan

Are you able to disclose your source for that date?
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