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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #40 on: 12/13/2011 06:00 PM »
Yeah, doesn't Scaled make those for Orbital?
No.

Scaled makes the Pegasus wings

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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #41 on: 12/13/2011 06:00 PM »
Does this thing only launch a Dragon or a fairing that happens to be the same diameter as the core stage ? Kind of restricts the number of available payloads, right ?

Not only that, but how do you load the crew into the dragon? What happens  to the crew in event of an accident during takeoff? 
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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #42 on: 12/13/2011 06:01 PM »
We need more customers for our current launchers.

You could argue SpaceX gets some of that through this. At least component production-wise.

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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #43 on: 12/13/2011 06:02 PM »
(and they seem to want to get away from gov't launch sites).

How many airports have 12,000 ft runways?
Not many... But still a lot easier to take-off from an airport than launch from a launch site, private or not. One of the strengths of airlaunch.
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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #44 on: 12/13/2011 06:02 PM »
What's your take on this, Jim? Is it a good and economical concept? Will it have payloads?

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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #45 on: 12/13/2011 06:02 PM »
Yeah, doesn't Scaled make those for Orbital?
No.

Scaled makes the Pegasus wings
I'm corrected then.
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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #46 on: 12/13/2011 06:04 PM »
Reminiscent of the last item here: http://buran.ru/htm/molniya7.htm

I find this whole thing a bit puzzling, but it will be interesting to see where it goes.

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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #47 on: 12/13/2011 06:04 PM »
(and they seem to want to get away from gov't launch sites).

How many airports have 12,000 ft runways?
Not many... But still a lot easier to take-off from an airport than launch from a launch site, private or not. One of the strengths of airlaunch.

How many airports can support spacecraft processing and propellant loading?
« Last Edit: 12/13/2011 06:04 PM by Jim »

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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #48 on: 12/13/2011 06:04 PM »
We need more customers for our current launchers.

Maybe, but it's Paul Allen's money and he gets to decide what to spend it on...
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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #49 on: 12/13/2011 06:05 PM »
Allen said in a press release. "We are at the dawn of radical change in the space launch industry. Stratolaunch Systems is pioneering an innovative solution that will revolutionize space travel."

My question is....where are they going to travel TO??

We have no shortage of launchers, a handful of spacecraft are coming online.....

But where is everyone going to go?? I just don't get it I guess....


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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #51 on: 12/13/2011 06:10 PM »
How many airports can support spacecraft processing and propellant loading?

Isn't a better question how many payloads can handle rolling down a runway horizontally while fully fueled?

Jim I think between the lines you appear to be seeing holes you can fly two 747's through here ;)
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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #52 on: 12/13/2011 06:11 PM »
I'm hoping that this takes off from Spaceport America. What a great idea that would be and would get them into hosting orbital operations. If this can be modified for a manned Dragon then I see Virgin Galactic jumping aboard SpaceX Dragon operations. Too soon to tell. 

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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #53 on: 12/13/2011 06:12 PM »
(and they seem to want to get away from gov't launch sites).

How many airports have 12,000 ft runways?
Not many... But still a lot easier to take-off from an airport than launch from a launch site, private or not. One of the strengths of airlaunch.

How many airports can support spacecraft processing and propellant loading?
Not many. :) One wonders, though, if spacecraft integration could be done at Vandenberg and then flown (empty) to another airport before finally taking off, like Pegasus does. Of course, the last airport needs to load the fuel and oxidizer (especially oxidizer).
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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #54 on: 12/13/2011 06:13 PM »
How many airports can support spacecraft processing and propellant loading?

Look at it this way, would this be able to operate out of LAX, which is right next to Boeing and Northrup Grumman or DEN for LM? 

The infrastructure is going to be the same as a pad and launch site.  Will need LOX and RP-1 tanks/spheres next to the runway, there will need to be a "hot pad" so that the launch vehicle can be loaded with the propellants away from other areas and structures.  This same area can be used for spacecraft to launch vehicle mate. 

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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #55 on: 12/13/2011 06:13 PM »
(and they seem to want to get away from gov't launch sites).

How many airports have 12,000 ft runways?
Not many... But still a lot easier to take-off from an airport than launch from a launch site, private or not. One of the strengths of airlaunch.

How many airports can support spacecraft processing and propellant loading?

KSC and Vandenberg come to mind.  Not much else.

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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #56 on: 12/13/2011 06:13 PM »
I see that they spoke about using the aircraft for cargo, too. It's bigger than the an-225, can carry the same payload, but has 25m extra of wingspan (i.e. not good), needs 150m extra of runway, and it's not based of any known design. I still wonder if they could have looked for a better way to tap into the heavy and oversized cargo market of the an-124/225.

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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #57 on: 12/13/2011 06:14 PM »
Isn't a better question how many payloads can handle rolling down a runway horizontally while fully fueled?
Perhaps a completely new kind of payloads - i.e. don't think satellites of today. Just a guess.
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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #58 on: 12/13/2011 06:15 PM »
I'm hoping that this takes off from Spaceport America. What a great idea that would be and would get them into hosting orbital operations. If this can be modified for a manned Dragon then I see Virgin Galactic jumping aboard SpaceX Dragon operations. Too soon to tell. 

I hope KSC and VAFB.  no need add more duplicate facilities.

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Re: Stratolaunch Announcement, Updates and Discussion
« Reply #59 on: 12/13/2011 06:16 PM »
Here is a second question, How can this work over land? Crash landing in a desert? Probably only over the ocean.
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