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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #160 on: 04/29/2017 08:39 AM »
Re my earlier postings about the launch schedule for the Tiangong Complex and supporting spacecraft, I have now realised that the entry for "巡天号光学舱" is a hyperlink (I can't always tell which are hyperlinks because of my sight problems) and that takes you to a page dedicated to Xuntian.   So there are clearly two entries for this satellite.   The "空间站巡天光学舱(XT)" entry is not a hyperlink.

I am attaching a diagram of Xuntian - are there any Chinese speakers who would be kind enough to translate the captions, please?

Have there been any hints of other free-flying modules that will be associated with the Tiangong Complex and will occasionally dock for servicing operations?
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #161 on: 04/30/2017 08:49 AM »
It has just struck me ......... most of the animations showing the dockings of Wentian and Mengtian with Tianhe 1 do not have a Shenzhou docked with the latter.   So will the station be unmanned when the modules are launched and docked or is it simply "artistic licence"?
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #162 on: 04/30/2017 09:05 AM »
It has just struck me ......... most of the animations showing the dockings of Wentian and Mengtian with Tianhe 1 do not have a Shenzhou docked with the latter.   So will the station be unmanned when the modules are launched and docked or is it simply "artistic licence"?

As China has demonstrated automated docking without crew, this could be the plan for the Modular Space Station as well. This also avoids any risk to the crew in case anything goes wrong during docking.
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #163 on: 01/29/2018 10:15 AM »
Here's the updates of core module ( TianHe ) building and experiment progress. It's shown from a documentary on CCTV last weekend (Jan 26th 2018)





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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #164 on: 01/29/2018 10:35 AM »
Thank you for posting the new photos, Sizzy.

Was there any new or updated information in the commentary for the programme?
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #165 on: 01/29/2018 11:03 AM »
Thank you for posting the new photos, Sizzy.

Was there any new or updated information in the commentary for the programme?

TianHe core module has finished assembling work on may 2017, and will be launched on late 2019 after the testing flight of LongMarch 5B.

CNSA is planning Shenzhou 12 manned flight shortly after the core module sent into orbit , the crew members will stay there for 3 months. In 2020-2022 ,there will be another LM5B launch (2 Lab modules) and Shenzhou 13 crew members will stay for 180 days until another crew relay , just like ISS 
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #166 on: 01/29/2018 11:34 AM »
Thank you for those details.

We know that Shenzhou 12 and 13 are both due in 2020 so maybe that will see a crew handover?   Then again, most depictions of the side-mounted modules arriving seem to suggest that there won't be a crew on board at the time (no Shenzhou docked).   I thought that the permanent residencies would begin once the three main modules were docked in 2021 (or 2022).

It will be interesting to see whether the Chinese will try any really long duration visits to the Tiangong Complex.   By the mid-1990s the Russians had decided that their experience was that the optimum residencies for medical/psychological reasons would be around six months (at the time NASA was still extrapolating from Skylab data!).
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #167 on: 01/29/2018 01:21 PM »
Thank you for those details.

We know that Shenzhou 12 and 13 are both due in 2020 so maybe that will see a crew handover?   Then again, most depictions of the side-mounted modules arriving seem to suggest that there won't be a crew on board at the time (no Shenzhou docked).   I thought that the permanent residencies would begin once the three main modules were docked in 2021 (or 2022).

It will be interesting to see whether the Chinese will try any really long duration visits to the Tiangong Complex.   By the mid-1990s the Russians had decided that their experience was that the optimum residencies for medical/psychological reasons would be around six months (at the time NASA was still extrapolating from Skylab data!).

After 2022 we may see Shenzhou 14 (or new kind spaceship) crew handover. Tianzhou cargoship will handover once a year.

Also CNSA planning a new co-orbital telescope and a flyby bus in this progarm.
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #168 on: 01/29/2018 01:44 PM »
In 2020-2022 ,there will be another LM5B launch (2 Lab modules)
Will the two lab modules launched on one LM5B or individually?

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #169 on: 01/29/2018 01:57 PM »
In 2020-2022 ,there will be another LM5B launch (2 Lab modules)
Will the two lab modules launched on one LM5B or individually?

individually

each of lab is 21-22t (LM5B LEO 23T)

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #170 on: 01/29/2018 02:01 PM »
individually

each of lab is 21-22t (LM5B LEO 23T)
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #171 on: 01/30/2018 01:37 PM »
Here's a ground model ,simulating the interior of the future lab module (in 1:1 scale) The module may lift off in 2020-2022
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #172 on: 03/05/2018 09:46 AM »
As noted on the thread of future Chinese launches, the launch of Tianhe 1 has been delayed until 2020.

https://gbtimes.com/launch-of-first-chinese-space-station-module-delayed-to-2020

This still gives the Chinese a good chance of having all three modules docked in orbit and the Tiangong Complex occupied in time for the 20th anniversary of Shenzhou 5 (which flew in October 2003): if that is a consideration for the Chinese, of course!
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #173 on: 03/31/2018 05:05 AM »
Video showing the docking port has been attached to the main body.

http://tv.cctv.com/2018/03/31/VIDEHaoT2LOifqMCBM3mHnBw180331.shtml
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #174 on: 03/31/2018 09:12 PM »
Tianhe-1 - China’s next manned space station

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #175 on: Today at 06:30 AM »
This article has little to actually say about China's manned lunar plans, but it is mainly about the Tiangong Complex.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-04/26/c_137136956.htm
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