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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #40 on: 11/15/2011 02:37 PM »
Is the radial port for the airlock really APAS? At one time, it was probe and cone, back when this article was FGB-2, but now its a bit of mystery what mating system will be used for the airlock. Since the airlock is already in orbit, attached to Rassvet, there are no good photos of its docking mechanism, so its all a  mystery to me.

In this MLM A/L preflight photo, an APAS docking collar is clearly visible.

An "APAS docking collar" is the same as a hybrid docking collar or an IDSS docking collar. Although its hard to tell from the image because the collar is covered, it has a similar form factor as the APAS docking collar.

The mating system, however, is missing from the photo, and instead, under a plastic cover, we can see that it doesn't look like an APAS or a hybrid.


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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #41 on: 11/15/2011 03:00 PM »
According to schemes available in L2 documents, the docking system seems to be new. It looks like an APAS, but with four spade-shaped guides instead of three.

I join a snapshot from a L2 document. If it's a bad idea, feel free to delete.
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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #42 on: 11/15/2011 03:02 PM »
This ESA picture confirms.
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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #43 on: 11/23/2011 03:20 PM »
I noticed that on the side of the MLM node facing away from the airlock will be a cupola, not too different from than on Soyuz. This small window will face aft, perhaps giving a better view of vehicles approaching the rear ISS docking port.

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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #44 on: 12/28/2011 12:42 AM »
From space.com:
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In May 2012, Russia will launch the Nauka Multipurpose Laboratory Module (MPLM), a new room to be added onto the space station's Zvezda nadir port, replacing the Pirs docking compartment currently there. Nauka will house science experiments and cargo and will be used for docking, as well as work and rest areas for the crew.

They're off their rocker, right?

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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #45 on: 12/28/2011 04:04 AM »
The launch manifest still has May listed

http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html
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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #46 on: 12/28/2011 09:51 AM »
From space.com:
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In May 2012, Russia will launch the Nauka Multipurpose Laboratory Module (MPLM), a new room to be added onto the space station's Zvezda nadir port, replacing the Pirs docking compartment currently there. Nauka will house science experiments and cargo and will be used for docking, as well as work and rest areas for the crew.

They're off their rocker, right?

Yes, they are. I've heard two indepent sources confirm that launch of Nauka is NET september 2013. And that was over a month ago. The electrical and engineering model of Nauka was delivered to Energia some weeks ago, for integration, scheduled to last into the second half of 2012. Only after that has been done can we expect the flight model of Nauka to be delivered to Energia. And then the whole process begins over again, on the flight model.
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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #47 on: 12/28/2011 05:44 PM »
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/2011/10/19/3806658.shtml

From translate.google.com with edits:

19.10.11 18:37

The Federal Space Agency announced a tender for the establishment of a research module for the ISS. Nearly four billion were rubles allocated  to finish the lab in a project approved for the Russian segment of the station in 2004. The module will be in orbit in the summer of 2013.

On Wednesday, the Federal Space Agency announced a competition to create a multipurpose laboratory module (MLM) for the Russian segment of International Space Station (MSC). The contract price is 3.725 billion rubles, the deadlines - November 2011 - July 2013.

As specified in the tender documentation, it is a "complement to the technical requirements for part of development activities," ISS - MLM "in terms of detail work stages from November this year to launch the new ISS module and its docking with the Russian segment. "When the work is used reserve, created in the course of "OKP" in the period 2006-2011" - stated in the specifications to the competition.

The winner, it seems, can already be called. It's Khrunichev together with RSC "Energia". Khrunichev has been working on the module with since the 1990s.
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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #48 on: 01/04/2012 05:02 PM »
A question about MLM for the experts:

Since the FGB was slated to operate in space for some time and then dock with the Service Module, I am guessing that it carried a very large prop supply. Since the flight maneuver requirements for MLM are probably significantly less than for FGB, I am wondering if the tankage and prop load will be less for MLM, freeing up more mass for cargo and other hardware.

What other differences are there between MLM and FGB, other than the ERA/radiator packages and the different docking ports?

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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #49 on: 01/31/2012 02:37 PM »
Noticed in the Russian launch schedule that some slip has been added from a May launch to a Sept launch?

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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #50 on: 01/31/2012 02:48 PM »
Noticed in the Russian launch schedule that some slip has been added from a May launch to a Sept launch?

Last I heard, MLM was (unofficially) NET December 2013?
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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #51 on: 02/01/2012 10:14 AM »
Noticed in the Russian launch schedule that some slip has been added from a May launch to a Sept launch?


Which is basically confirming what ESA and NLR had already been told by the Russians, some time ago.

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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #52 on: 02/06/2012 02:54 PM »
Does this slip also push back the Node Module? If so, what's the new estimated launch date for NM?

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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #53 on: 03/15/2012 04:55 PM »
There is a discussion in the NK forum about another delay for the MLM. Apparently, Roskosmos has not ordered the launcher for MLM yet, and Energia's design for MLM outfitting is not the same as the Roskosmos requirements.
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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #54 on: 03/15/2012 09:26 PM »
There is a discussion in the NK forum about another delay for the MLM. Apparently, Roskosmos has not ordered the launcher for MLM yet, and Energia's design for MLM outfitting is not the same as the Roskosmos requirements.

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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #55 on: 03/16/2012 12:45 AM »
There is a discussion in the NK forum about another delay for the MLM. Apparently, Roskosmos has not ordered the launcher for MLM yet, and Energia's design for MLM outfitting is not the same as the Roskosmos requirements.


the date slipped the other day.  Now into 2014
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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #56 on: 03/16/2012 06:49 AM »
There is a discussion in the NK forum about another delay for the MLM. Apparently, Roskosmos has not ordered the launcher for MLM yet, and Energia's design for MLM outfitting is not the same as the Roskosmos requirements.


the date slipped the other day.  Now into 2014

Just asked my NLR contact about this. He said the same. Launch NET spring 2014. I will ask my ESA contact as well.

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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #57 on: 03/16/2012 09:59 AM »
There is a discussion in the NK forum about another delay for the MLM. Apparently, Roskosmos has not ordered the launcher for MLM yet, and Energia's design for MLM outfitting is not the same as the Roskosmos requirements.


http://www.rosspending.ru/fk/contract/0025907000259/

What did they do with this one?

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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #58 on: 03/16/2012 05:06 PM »
There is a discussion in the NK forum about another delay for the MLM. Apparently, Roskosmos has not ordered the launcher for MLM yet, and Energia's design for MLM outfitting is not the same as the Roskosmos requirements.


http://www.rosspending.ru/fk/contract/0025907000259/

What did they do with this one?

I dunno, that page does not appear on the web site anymore.

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Re: Will the Russian MLM Ever Actually be Launched?
« Reply #59 on: 03/16/2012 05:12 PM »
Why does the launch keep getting delayed?
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