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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1560 on: 01/12/2018 12:52 AM »
SpaceX sure know how to get attention. Alien sightings, classified mysteries, cars to Mars, vertical landings, explosive failures, maiden flights and BFR ambitions.


Any publicity is good publicity as long as you spell my name right...

except journos spell it Spacex ... Space X  etc....
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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1561 on: 01/12/2018 03:08 AM »
SpaceX sure know how to get attention. Alien sightings, classified mysteries, cars to Mars, vertical landings, explosive failures, maiden flights and BFR ambitions.

They're flying maidens? How did I miss that?

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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1562 on: 01/12/2018 05:16 AM »
Full tinfoil hat theory as to what happened to Zuma:

About a year ago, Musk rather publicly resigned from (or elected not to join, not sure of that detail) a business/government relations working group being set up by Trump.  Musk at the time expressed his own very unflattering opinions of Trump.

This part is true.

Trump is the thinnest skinned celebrity in history.

This part, whatever you think of the man, is also demonstrably true.

Now, for the fantasy, er, theory:

Trump decided to "get back" at Musk's slight, and estimation of his character, by arranging the Zuma "accident" and instructing his friends and aides to "stick it to that <expletive deleted> Emon guy" (sic) by blaming the newly-ordered failure on Musk.  Who can't wriggle off the hook on a classified failure.

A move of which Putin would have been proud.

As tinfoil hat theories go, it accounts for what facts are known, and reflects how satellite failures can be turned into launcher failures, as long as you think like a lawyer, not an engineer.  It also means that, if true, we ought to hear all the juicy details when the next set of WH hires resigns and starts flapping its collective lips in a few months...  :D
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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1563 on: 01/12/2018 05:26 AM »
First rule of Zuma.

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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1564 on: 01/12/2018 05:28 AM »
It's the "Periodically Amusing Rocketry Talk and Yammering [PARTY] Thread"


Refactored for recursion:

PARTY And Rocket Talk Yammering

Now how did I just know that Lar was going to like that post.

« Last Edit: 01/12/2018 05:37 AM by Lar »
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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1565 on: 01/12/2018 05:30 AM »
Full tinfoil hat theory as to what happened to Zuma:
  <sorry, citizen, you're not cleared to read that more than once. Report to the nearest disintegration chamber. The computer is your friend.>
The scariest part about that post? It's not inconceivable that is exactly what happened.
« Last Edit: 01/12/2018 05:36 AM by Lar »
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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1566 on: 01/12/2018 05:35 AM »
It's the "Periodically Amusing Rocketry Talk and Yammering [PARTY] Thread"


Refactored for recursion:

PARTY And Rocket Talk Yammering

Now how did I just know that Lar was going to like that post.

I'll see your screenshot and raise you a changed thread title... what does it take for someone to acknowledge my new title?? Geez.
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"We're a little bit like the dog who caught the bus" - Musk after CRS-8 S1 successfully landed on ASDS OCISLY

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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1567 on: 01/12/2018 06:05 AM »
I'll see your screenshot and raise you a changed thread title... what does it take for someone to acknowledge my new title?? Geez.

I don't know, SFHGPTN just doesn't have the same ring.  It's lacking that je ne se quois.
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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1568 on: 01/12/2018 03:21 PM »
<quoted sections deleted>

Itís getting to be an old joke now...
backdoor new title thread method
(Edit: read the title of the post carefully)
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Colonize Mars!

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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1569 on: 01/12/2018 08:27 PM »

I don't know, SFHGPTN just doesn't have the same ring.  It's lacking that je ne se quois.
Jenna said what? :)
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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1570 on: 01/13/2018 03:48 PM »
It's the "Periodically Amusing Rocketry Talk and Yammering [PARTY] Thread"

Clay, should that not have been PARTaY?  (oops, my 90's is showing ;) )
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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1571 on: 01/13/2018 09:29 PM »
Has anyone heard any rumors that Zuma was built from components/designs out of Area 51 and it just flew away on release?
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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1572 on: 01/13/2018 09:58 PM »
Has anyone heard any rumors that Zuma was built from components/designs out of Area 51 and it just flew away on release?

Yes, but the person who whispered that rumor to me, in a dark back alley, was immediately set upon by about a dozen G-men and killed outright.  So I'd be careful spreading that rumor around, if I were you... :D

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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1573 on: 01/13/2018 11:22 PM »
Jeff Bezos has billions to spend on rockets and can go at whatever pace he likes! Wow! What pace is he going at? Well... have you heard of Zeno's paradox?

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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1574 on: 01/14/2018 01:00 AM »
Mmmmmm, Zuma!

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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1575 on: 01/14/2018 08:50 PM »
Meanwhile over in the Zuma thread:
Space is not Highlander.  There can, and will, be more than one.

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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1576 on: 01/14/2018 09:04 PM »
I've noticed that whenever I fail to post something here there is always a scrub, abort, failure, etc that follows. Today I'm making my voice heard so the static fire test is completed tomorrow and we can get on with the future I've been waiting for since the 60's.

Cheeseburgers on Mars!

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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1577 on: 01/14/2018 10:54 PM »
Sigh.... that movie brings back memories. It was the first movie I saw at the Century theaters in San Jose.

Doing any sort of math right now is completely inapropriate!

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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1578 on: 01/14/2018 11:42 PM »
Sorry bro, you're older than dirt (but possibly not older than me).
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Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
« Reply #1579 on: 01/14/2018 11:48 PM »
How does he do it?

I would have bet almost anything that the fill/drain would have it's own direct connection to the main tank to avoid having a split in the feed from the tank to the center engine. Wouldn't this split juncture cause unwanted turbulence and possibly cavitation?

no, because the fluid is not moving in the closed off fill/drain branch.
It is common to branch the fill/drain line off of a feed line.  They don't make a dedicated line into the tank.


8 minutes to come up with a perfect illustration of the point he made, which is economically stated and highly cogent.

8 minutes. ...

Edit: 8 minutes and 50 seconds.
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"I think it would be great to be born on Earth and to die on Mars. Just hopefully not at the point of impact." -Elon Musk
"We're a little bit like the dog who caught the bus" - Musk after CRS-8 S1 successfully landed on ASDS OCISLY

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