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Re: Pad 39A - Transition to SpaceX Falcon Heavy debut - Thread 3
« Reply #680 on: 01/06/2018 02:54 PM »
CRS-14 launching from SLC-40.  Will be interesting to see if any F9 launch from 39A in the first half of 2018.
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Launching from SLC-40.  Will be interesting to see if any F9 launch from 39A in the first half of 2018.

Why wouldn't they?
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Re: Pad 39A - Transition to SpaceX Falcon Heavy debut - Thread 3
« Reply #682 on: 01/06/2018 03:02 PM »
Launching from SLC-40.  Will be interesting to see if any F9 launch from 39A in the first half of 2018.

Why wouldn't they?
I believe because of the not insignificant amount of work required to reconfigure the frame back to a single stick (and then back again for the next FH launch).
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Re: Pad 39A - Transition to SpaceX Falcon Heavy debut - Thread 3
« Reply #683 on: 01/06/2018 03:06 PM »
Launching from SLC-40.  Will be interesting to see if any F9 launch from 39A in the first half of 2018.

Why wouldn't they?
I believe because of the not insignificant amount of work required to reconfigure the frame back to a single stick (and then back again for the next FH launch).
actually conversion back and forth is relatively quick and straight forward. FH post launch evaluation and pad inspection and the unknowns post FH-01 is the main reason of uncertainty for 39A schedule.

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Re: Pad 39A - Transition to SpaceX Falcon Heavy debut - Thread 3
« Reply #684 on: 01/06/2018 03:14 PM »
Launching from SLC-40.  Will be interesting to see if any F9 launch from 39A in the first half of 2018.

Why wouldn't they?

SpaceX needs to finish the modifications to 39A once Falcon Heavy lifts off on its first flight( finish taking down the RSS, install CAA, extend the FSS, add hammerhead crane). I don't remember reading anywhere if the extension of the FSS and hammerhead crane is still in the works or where in the priority list it is for SpaceX. I imagine the priority for SpaceX with 39A is finish taking down the RSS and then getting it ready Dragon v2/crew demo mission. The extension of the FSS and the crane depends on if SpaceX still sees money to be made for Air Force missions that require vertical integration. I just don't know if SpaceX would want to do that post-CAA installation. But it does look like the CAA will be installed on the RSS's hinge point according to the renders. So it would be out of the way for those modifications.

39A's utilization will now drastically decrease with 40 back up. So unless needed to help with the manifest, 39A will only be used for FH, crew missions, and missions that require vertical integration if that is still in the plans.

Launching from SLC-40.  Will be interesting to see if any F9 launch from 39A in the first half of 2018.

Why wouldn't they?

SpaceX needs to finish the modifications to 39A once Falcon Heavy lifts off on its first flight( finish taking down the RSS, install CAA, extend the FSS, add hammerhead crane). I don't remember reading anywhere if the extension of the FSS and hammerhead crane is still in the works or where in the priority list it is for SpaceX. I imagine the priority for SpaceX with 39A is finish taking down the RSS and then getting it ready Dragon v2/crew demo mission. The extension of the FSS and the crane depends on if SpaceX still sees money to be made for Air Force missions that require vertical integration. I just don't know if SpaceX would want to do that post-CAA installation. But it does look like the CAA will be installed on the RSS's hinge point according to the renders. So it would be out of the way for those modifications.

39A's utilization will now drastically decrease with 40 back up. So unless needed to help with the manifest, 39A will only be used for FH, crew missions, and missions that require vertical integration if that is still in the plans.

I haven't seen anything new about extending the FSS or adding a crane in a while, maybe they decided not to, or just use a heavy-duty construction crane.
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Re: Pad 39A - Transition to SpaceX Falcon Heavy debut - Thread 3
« Reply #686 on: 01/06/2018 03:37 PM »
Launching from SLC-40.  Will be interesting to see if any F9 launch from 39A in the first half of 2018.

Why wouldn't they?

SpaceX needs to finish the modifications to 39A once Falcon Heavy lifts off on its first flight( finish taking down the RSS, install CAA, extend the FSS, add hammerhead crane). I don't remember reading anywhere if the extension of the FSS and hammerhead crane is still in the works or where in the priority list it is for SpaceX. I imagine the priority for SpaceX with 39A is finish taking down the RSS and then getting it ready Dragon v2/crew demo mission. The extension of the FSS and the crane depends on if SpaceX still sees money to be made for Air Force missions that require vertical integration. I just don't know if SpaceX would want to do that post-CAA installation. But it does look like the CAA will be installed on the RSS's hinge point according to the renders. So it would be out of the way for those modifications.

39A's utilization will now drastically decrease with 40 back up. So unless needed to help with the manifest, 39A will only be used for FH, crew missions, and missions that require vertical integration if that is still in the plans.

I haven't seen anything new about extending the FSS or adding a crane in a while, maybe they decided not to, or just use a heavy-duty construction crane.

Me neither. But I think the hype/attention has been on FH and COTS that no one has bothered to ask about their original plans for the mods for 39A in relation to the extension and adding a hammerhead crane.

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Re: Pad 39A - Transition to SpaceX Falcon Heavy debut - Thread 3
« Reply #687 on: 01/06/2018 03:54 PM »


I haven't seen anything new about extending the FSS or adding a crane in a while, maybe they decided not to, or just use a heavy-duty construction crane.

 Or, something like this.
 I know where they can find one.
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Re: Pad 39A - Transition to SpaceX Falcon Heavy debut - Thread 3
« Reply #688 on: 01/08/2018 04:06 AM »
What is the status or modifications of LC-39A looking right Now any pics. Available too show. Same ohh same ohh. 

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Re: Pad 39A - Transition to SpaceX Falcon Heavy debut - Thread 3
« Reply #689 on: 01/09/2018 12:45 AM »
Grazing the #FalconHeavy hashtag on Twitter.

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Re: Pad 39A - Transition to SpaceX Falcon Heavy debut - Thread 3
« Reply #690 on: 01/09/2018 01:00 AM »
Grazing the #FalconHeavy hashtag on Twitter.

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Re: Pad 39A - Transition to SpaceX Falcon Heavy debut - Thread 3
« Reply #691 on: 01/09/2018 03:30 AM »
Grazing the #FalconHeavy hashtag on Twitter.

What was the date on those tweets?  I think those photos must be from days ago, certainly the vertical one, because over in the main FH Demo updates thread, it was shown being lifted up to vertical (halfway there) tonight under darkness.

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CRS-14 launching from SLC-40.  Will be interesting to see if any F9 launch from 39A in the first half of 2018.

I guess it'll depend on how long it takes to install the Crew Access Arm for the Dragon 2 demo missions?  still, I can't see it taking that many months if they've shut the pad down after FH for a while....  If FH launches right at the end of January/beginning of February, that still leaves the rest of Feb, March, April- should be plenty of time to do any modification, and Demo 1 is in what, July now? So I'd think that they'd do some launches in the remaining months between FH, Crew Arm instillation and DM 1...? Especially if they actually want to reach the goal of 30 launches or so for the year...

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Re: Pad 39A - Transition to SpaceX Falcon Heavy debut - Thread 3
« Reply #693 on: 01/09/2018 04:12 AM »
Grazing the #FalconHeavy hashtag on Twitter.

The top image is from January 8, the bottom image is from December 28 (though the Falcon Heavy is once again vertical at 39A as we speak)

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Re: Pad 39A - Transition to SpaceX Falcon Heavy debut - Thread 3
« Reply #694 on: 01/09/2018 08:20 PM »
What was the date on those tweets? ... Also, see my signature below on how to properly post photos from Twitter here :)
I put attribution and dates in there. Didn't realize the need for attribution.

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