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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #260 on: 01/09/2018 12:26 PM »
"Despite Yourself" was excellent. Directed by "Next Generation" vet Jonathan Frakes. Major story-advancing here, playing into rumors and conjecture which began last fall. But with a shocking plot development I don't think anyone saw coming.

That's my TV for tonight sorted then! :)

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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #261 on: 01/09/2018 08:25 PM »
I found this episode very enjoyable!!

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« Reply #262 on: 01/09/2018 11:13 PM »
I think getting to the Mirror universe is where theyíve wanted to take the show all along.  That this was the idea they wanted to explore this season that the place isnít some holiday camp but would actually be an utter nightmare.

[spoiler]I am increasingly certain Lorca is from the mirror universe and his whole plan was to get bank there to overthrow the emperor.[/spoiler]
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« Reply #263 on: 01/10/2018 04:19 PM »
Further to the above Iíve since read they originally planned to jump to the MU in episode 4, but realised you had to know the characters better first so put it back.

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« Reply #264 on: 01/13/2018 07:45 PM »
Re-watched it again and my theory from the beginning of this thread has proved to be true... If you don't want to spoil it for yourself don't go back to read what I wrote... ;)
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« Reply #265 on: 01/15/2018 05:48 PM »
New episode was pretty awesome... 8)
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« Reply #266 on: 01/15/2018 08:39 PM »
New episode was pretty awesome... 8)

Agreed.  Now I wonder if the Emperor is descended from Hoshi Sato.

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« Reply #267 on: 01/16/2018 03:38 PM »
New episode was pretty awesome... 8)

Agreed.  Now I wonder if the Emperor is descended from Hoshi Sato.

I'm pretty sure that the Emperor and the Empress Hoshi I are only coincidentally of generally-neighbouring ethnic heritage.
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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #268 on: 01/16/2018 05:31 PM »
New episode was pretty awesome... 8)

Agreed.  Now I wonder if the Emperor is descended from Hoshi Sato.

I'm pretty sure that the Emperor and the Empress Hoshi I are only coincidentally of generally-neighbouring ethnic heritage.

Probably, but it would have made a nice tie in to Enterprise, like they have done with the Defiant.  And I don't think the Terran Empire has a dynasty of Emporers.  Just who overthrows the previous one.
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« Reply #269 on: 01/16/2018 09:00 PM »
New episode was pretty awesome... 8)

Agreed.  Now I wonder if the Emperor is descended from Hoshi Sato.

I'm pretty sure that the Emperor and the Empress Hoshi I are only coincidentally of generally-neighbouring ethnic heritage.

Probably, but it would have made a nice tie in to Enterprise, like they have done with the Defiant.  And I don't think the Terran Empire has a dynasty of Emporers.  Just who overthrows the previous one.

It certainly has better uniforms than the normal Trekverse shown in the show so far.

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« Reply #270 on: 01/16/2018 10:18 PM »
I can handle one or two mirror episodes per season... but if the rest of this season is in the mirror universe I'm going to stop watching.
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« Reply #271 on: 01/17/2018 06:22 AM »
I can handle one or two mirror episodes per season... but if the rest of this season is in the mirror universe I'm going to stop watching.

Best you turn off now then because the few remaining episodes are all MU as far as I am aware.

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« Reply #272 on: 01/18/2018 04:25 PM »
I can handle one or two mirror episodes per season... but if the rest of this season is in the mirror universe I'm going to stop watching.

Best you turn off now then because the few remaining episodes are all MU as far as I am aware.

It sure looks like that.

I'm not crazy about the mirror universe stuff but I like the darker aspects and flawed characters. It seems to me this could have been done within the confines of current Star Trek timeline.


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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #273 on: 01/22/2018 03:00 AM »
OK, I did not see that coming!  But I should have!

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« Reply #274 on: 01/22/2018 06:21 PM »
Based on my experience with my mother, I suspect that many older fans foresaw this from fairly on. The signs were all there.
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« Reply #275 on: 01/23/2018 03:42 AM »
Yep, it is pretty obvious when I go back and look.  It makes me wonder where the counter part to him is.

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« Reply #276 on: 01/23/2018 03:44 AM »
I also like how the Terran Empire is looking very Roman.  I have read theories on that before, but it looks like they are confirming that. 

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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #277 on: 01/24/2018 06:32 AM »
I also like how the Terran Empire is looking very Roman.  I have read theories on that before, but it looks like they are confirming that. 

I was thinking about that and have been wondering whether that the divergence point between the Mirror Universe and the Prime Time Line may have been in the early 4th Century AD when the Emperor Constantine selected a single religion for his empire. In our universe (and most fictional ones), he selected Christianity, impelling the spreading Judeo-Christian concepts of ethics and morality throughout most of the Old World. Maybe in the Mirror Universe he selected a more bloodthirsty group like the Cult of Mithras, leading to a global culture that reflected the bloodier and more chauvinistic elements of Roman culture.
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« Reply #278 on: 01/29/2018 01:33 AM »
Good episode... I'll leave it at that...
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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #279 on: 01/29/2018 08:16 PM »
In truth, I wasn't impressed. It felt... shallow and empty. Whilst I retained a curiosity as to what would happen next, I felt no stake in the outcome beyond that mild curiosity.

Even the action scenes felt like they were from another franchise, more like Star Wars or even the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
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