Okay, so yesterday I had the chance to watch the movie in the local cinema.It's not a bad movie, but it's also not a great one. A typical modern movie with excessive use of graphic effects, way too much action. The good thing is that it's following the traditions of the franchise - jedi, sith, and the characters are compatible with their background. However, the storyline is an incoherent mess. As a result, this movie, although not that bad, is a perfect representation of why I hate modern trends. My eye is satiated, but my brain is hungry for a good story.
Well, I saw it again today with a friend. He had not seen it yet, and while he felt disappointed, I actually enjoyed it a bit more, but still not enough to call it anywhere near the best Star Wars movie. I am hoping, Episode 9 brings everything together, and will make this movie seem better. But that should not be necessary. I think Empire Strikes Back was a great middle of a trilogy. And frankly, I like Attack of the Clones a lot more than this movie as a middle.
Oh I think you aren't aware how controversial The Empire Strikes Back was to some Star Wars fans... What's all these new force powers? Levitation? Ghosts? Why is the empire still around after the death star was destroyed? The list goes on.Films that change the direction of a series of films (for better or worse) are always more controversial. Many - but not all - are appreciated more in hindsight.
Quote from: Ronpur50 on 12/19/2017 09:38 pmWell, I saw it again today with a friend. He had not seen it yet, and while he felt disappointed, I actually enjoyed it a bit more, but still not enough to call it anywhere near the best Star Wars movie. I am hoping, Episode 9 brings everything together, and will make this movie seem better. But that should not be necessary. I think Empire Strikes Back was a great middle of a trilogy. And frankly, I like Attack of the Clones a lot more than this movie as a middle. Oh I think you aren't aware how controversial The Empire Strikes Back was to some Star Wars fans... What's all these new force powers? Levitation? Ghosts? Why is the empire still around after the death star was destroyed? The list goes on.Films that change the direction of a series of films (for better or worse) are always more controversial. Many - but not all - are appreciated more in hindsight.
Quote from: Lars-J on 12/19/2017 10:07 pm...I think you aren't aware how controversial The Empire Strikes Back was to some Star Wars fans... What's all these new force powers? Levitation? Ghosts? Why is the empire still around after the death star was destroyed? The list goes on.Films that change the direction of a series of films (for better or worse) are always more controversial. Many - but not all - are appreciated more in hindsight.Really? I remember myself and my friends seeing it several times that summer when we first got our driver's licenses! I don't remember anything about it being controversial. I read all the articles in Starlog back then, as that was my only source of news for science fiction. I don't remember anything negative or any of those questions. We were in awe of it, even more than the original....then we got ewoks 3 years later. The only debate we had was Darth Vader lying to Luke about being his father. Maybe my circle of knowledge missed the controversy.
...I think you aren't aware how controversial The Empire Strikes Back was to some Star Wars fans... What's all these new force powers? Levitation? Ghosts? Why is the empire still around after the death star was destroyed? The list goes on.Films that change the direction of a series of films (for better or worse) are always more controversial. Many - but not all - are appreciated more in hindsight.
I don't expect anything like real physics in a Star Wars movie, but still..[spoilers]forget it. i cant get the spoiler thing to work[/spoilers]
Quote from: Ronpur50 on 12/20/2017 01:31 amQuote from: Lars-J on 12/19/2017 10:07 pm...I think you aren't aware how controversial The Empire Strikes Back was to some Star Wars fans... What's all these new force powers? Levitation? Ghosts? Why is the empire still around after the death star was destroyed? The list goes on.Films that change the direction of a series of films (for better or worse) are always more controversial. Many - but not all - are appreciated more in hindsight.Really? I remember myself and my friends seeing it several times that summer when we first got our driver's licenses! I don't remember anything about it being controversial. I read all the articles in Starlog back then, as that was my only source of news for science fiction. I don't remember anything negative or any of those questions. We were in awe of it, even more than the original....then we got ewoks 3 years later. The only debate we had was Darth Vader lying to Luke about being his father. Maybe my circle of knowledge missed the controversy. [1] -- in ESB, starting at the departure from Hoth and the point where our heroes were separated, their stories dilate in time. Han and Leia spend, apparently, just a few hours in their flight from the Star Destroyers, and by the time they decide they ought to head for Cloud City, Luke has been training with Yoda for an apparent period of months. As I say, that structural problem bothered more people than anything else, I think.
[image text quote]Space bombers do not work that way.[/image text quote]
I liked it, alot, as Luke said in the trailer, 'this isn't going to go the way you think'.For those picking holes with falling bombs or similar well I have problems with artificial and anti gravity, superluminal flight, spacecraft that fly like aeroplanes, laser swords and space wizards, who cares though, it's a movie!
Quote from: nacnud on 01/01/2018 08:20 pmI liked it, alot, as Luke said in the trailer, 'this isn't going to go the way you think'.For those picking holes with falling bombs or similar well I have problems with artificial and anti gravity, superluminal flight, spacecraft that fly like aeroplanes, laser swords and space wizards, who cares though, it's a movie!The criticism around the bombs baffles me. Not only for the reason you said, but...there's gravity inside the ships, right? And that's where the bombs are...