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Offline Danderman

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Re: Information about Angara rocket
« Reply #420 on: 01/10/2017 06:24 PM »
I thought that the Briz-KM was out of production due to problems with the Ukrainian guidance system, at least that is the explanation why Eurockot is not available now.

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Re: Information about Angara rocket
« Reply #421 on: 01/10/2017 08:20 PM »
I thought that the Briz-KM was out of production due to problems with the Ukrainian guidance system, at least that is the explanation why Eurockot is not available now.

AFAIK, temporarily out of production for new launch contracts only until Ukrainian hardware is replaced with new Russian hardware. Exact date of this scheduled switch is unknown as to when it will occur. Current batch will allow majority of existing contracted flights to fly.
« Last Edit: 01/10/2017 08:23 PM by russianhalo117 »

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Re: Information about Angara rocket
« Reply #422 on: 01/21/2017 04:51 AM »
According to NPO Energomash RD-191M Engine throttled up by 10% more of the nominal thrust.
This particular LPRE configuration planned to be used on Stage I and Stage II of Angara A5 and
Angara A5V launch vehicles.
Using this engine would increase a payload capacity of standard Angara A5 to LEO up to 25.5 tones.
More details here http://tass.ru/kosmos/3949644
I am impressed - Khrunichev managed to create all KeroLoX propelled LV that is competitive with Chinese Long March 5 that used hydrogen :)
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Re: Information about Angara rocket
« Reply #423 on: 05/23/2017 09:22 PM »
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3304228

"Kommersant" reports that a decision was made at a meeting between Putin and space officials yesterday not to build a second Angara pad at Plesetsk. The money will be diverted to building the sole Angara pad at Vostochnyy (where the number of pads had earlier been reduced from two to one). The Ministry of Defense will take part in building the Vostochnyy pad and in return will be allowed to perform military Angara launches from the new cosmodrome.

It was also decided at the meeting not to build a separate assembly building and a separate payload preparation facility for Angara at Vostochnyy. The existing Soyuz assembly building and satellite preparation facility will be used instead.

All this is the result of serious cutbacks in cosmodrome development in the period until 2025. The originally requested budget of 1 trillion rubles is expected to be reduced to 340 billion rubles in the proposal to be forwarded by Roscosmos to the government shortly. The budget for cosmodrome development until 2025 (which is separate from the Federal Space Program budget) was originally supposed to be approved in late 2015.

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Re: Information about Angara rocket
« Reply #424 on: 05/23/2017 09:40 PM »
1 trillion rubles is expected to be reduced to 340 billion rubles
17.7 billion US dollars is expected to be reduced to 6 billion US dollars.
Very expensive these Angara facilities are.
« Last Edit: 05/23/2017 09:41 PM by koshvv »

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Re: Information about Angara rocket
« Reply #425 on: 05/28/2017 08:58 AM »
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3310777

"Kommersant" reports Angara-A5P is "cancelled" until a super-heavy launcher is created
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Re: Information about Angara rocket
« Reply #426 on: 05/29/2017 08:41 PM »
1 trillion rubles is expected to be reduced to 340 billion rubles
17.7 billion US dollars is expected to be reduced to 6 billion US dollars.
Very expensive these Angara facilities are.
That was the whole cosmodrome cost.

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Re: Information about Angara rocket
« Reply #427 on: 05/29/2017 10:02 PM »
1 trillion rubles is expected to be reduced to 340 billion rubles
17.7 billion US dollars is expected to be reduced to 6 billion US dollars.
Very expensive these Angara facilities are.
That was the whole cosmodrome cost.

During a visit to Vostochnyy yesterday deputy Defense Minister Timor Ivanov said the construction of the Angara pad at the cosmodrome is expected to cost 58 billion rubles, which is about $1 billion. http://tass.ru/kosmos/4289592

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Re: Information about Angara rocket
« Reply #428 on: 05/29/2017 10:28 PM »
1 trillion rubles is expected to be reduced to 340 billion rubles
17.7 billion US dollars is expected to be reduced to 6 billion US dollars.
Very expensive these Angara facilities are.
That was the whole cosmodrome cost.

During a visit to Vostochnyy yesterday deputy Defense Minister Timor Ivanov said the construction of the Angara pad at the cosmodrome is expected to cost 58 billion rubles, which is about $1 billion. http://tass.ru/kosmos/4289592

it should be significantly less that the dolgostroi/nightmare project at 35/1.

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Re: Information about Angara rocket
« Reply #429 on: 05/31/2017 02:17 PM »
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3310777

"Kommersant" reports Angara-A5P is "cancelled" until a super-heavy launcher is created

Roscosmos stopped working on a manned version of Angara launcher.
Роскосмос отказался от пилотируемой версии ракеты «Ангара»

http://kosmolenta.com/index.php/1064-2017-05-30-manned-phoenix

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Re: Information about Angara rocket
« Reply #430 on: 06/01/2017 04:04 AM »
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3310777

"Kommersant" reports Angara-A5P is "cancelled" until a super-heavy launcher is created

Roscosmos stopped working on a manned version of Angara launcher.
Роскосмос отказался от пилотируемой версии ракеты «Ангара»

http://kosmolenta.com/index.php/1064-2017-05-30-manned-phoenix

So, what now? Is that basically an admission that the new crew craft (PTK NP?) is indefinitely delayed? Or what will it launch on? Neither Phoenix/Soyuz-5 or Baiterek or whatever seems to have been given a green light.

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Re: Information about Angara rocket
« Reply #431 on: 06/01/2017 07:12 AM »
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3310777

"Kommersant" reports Angara-A5P is "cancelled" until a super-heavy launcher is created

Roscosmos stopped working on a manned version of Angara launcher.
Роскосмос отказался от пилотируемой версии ракеты «Ангара»

http://kosmolenta.com/index.php/1064-2017-05-30-manned-phoenix

So, what now? Is that basically an admission that the new crew craft (PTK NP?) is indefinitely delayed? Or what will it launch on? Neither Phoenix/Soyuz-5 or Baiterek or whatever seems to have been given a green light.

Discussed in the thread "Russia To Develop A New-Generation Manned Spacecraft"
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=23160.480



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Re: Information about Angara rocket
« Reply #432 on: 01/01/2018 02:48 PM »
Some details about the delays can be found here:-
http://penzatrend.ru/index.php/nsg/item/26352-sekretnye-izdeliya-iz-inostrannyh-komplektuyuschih

Anyone translate?

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Re: Information about Angara rocket
« Reply #433 on: 01/02/2018 02:47 AM »
Bing translation. Seems to be a dispute on the pricing of some electronic components. Not sure how relevant this is to a delay.

"Secret products from foreign components

Dmitry GULIN

«NIIFI» inflated the price of the system for carrier rocket "AngaraA5"

"At the 07.08.2017" SATELLITE is to them. Khrunichev "from JSC" NIIFI "signed a contract for the supply of 20 3 systems with 078. FAS Commission determined that given the existing contracts of JSC "NIIFI" you need to put 20 systems with 078, to pick which require 2 520 pieces electronic and radio devices.

Also found that JSC «NIIFI» includes price 5 systems with 078 contract "jelektroradioizdelija costs in the amount of 4 908 PCs. Thus, the costs for the acquisition of additional 2 388 pieces of electronic and radio devices do not apply directly to the realization of systems with 20 078 ", and their inclusion in the price under the contract did not meet the requirements of the procedure for determining the composition of the costs.
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Re: Information about Angara rocket
« Reply #434 on: 01/02/2018 03:14 PM »
Bing translation. Seems to be a dispute on the pricing of some electronic components. Not sure how relevant this is to a delay.

I think this contains the same details:-
http://solutions.fas.gov.ru/ca/upravlenie-kontrolya-aviatsionnoy-raketno-kosmicheskoy-i-atomnoy-promyshlennosti/29-77535-17

There is something about Angara-A5 №71753 to №71756. There is a dispute about the cost of a component. Khrunichev paid an inflated price to prevent delays in completing №71753? Something like that.
« Last Edit: 01/02/2018 03:14 PM by Stan Black »

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Re: Information about Angara rocket
« Reply #435 on: 01/03/2018 02:56 PM »
There is something about Angara-A5 №71753 to №71756. There is a dispute about the cost of a component. Khrunichev paid an inflated price to prevent delays in completing №71753? Something like that.
Yes. That's basic econonic dispute over hardly surprising behaviour of sole supplier.
Sole component supplier inflated price, Khrunichev bought components at this price to prevent delay and filed complaint to antimonopoly authority. It investigated the case and found that price was inflated unreasonably.

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Re: Information about Angara rocket
« Reply #436 on: 01/16/2018 12:47 PM »
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#Roscosmos reports delivery of two boosters for the 2nd #Angara-5 mission... but two more apparently yet to come. DETAILS: http://www.russianspaceweb.com/angara5-flight2.html#2018

https://twitter.com/RussianSpaceWeb/status/953259891531141121

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