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Re: Subcommittee Hearing on NASA's FY14 Budget Proposal
« Reply #20 on: 04/24/2013 06:39 pm »
I'm am not aware are current answers.
 
Agrees a moon landing is good.  We can only do so much.
 
We don't have funds for a moon mission, only the Asteroid.
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JWST:  over weight? possible two years behind 
 
That's not the info I'm getting.
 
Mr. Smith I keep coming up with news breaks.
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Re: Subcommittee Hearing on NASA's FY14 Budget Proposal
« Reply #21 on: 04/24/2013 06:44 pm »
Question about inspiring schoolkids......

Went into recess.
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Re: Subcommittee Hearing on NASA's FY14 Budget Proposal
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Re: Subcommittee Hearing on NASA's FY14 Budget Proposal
« Reply #24 on: 04/24/2013 07:04 pm »
Mr Smith on JWST being a year behind?

Bolden: "That is not correct. We're 14 months ahead. I've not heard anything...."

Mr Smith: "But I read it was 11 months behind!"

Bolden: "I'd appreciate a source on that. It's a serious news break if that's true".

(Who reported they are 11 months behind? My article yesterday said they are on schedule)

This is what the GAO report said about JWST:

Design/Technology Issues
The project is currently experiencing issues with the expected mass of the spacecraft and technical issues on several instruments that are requiring a significant amount of time to address and have impacted instrument deliveries. For example, the spacecraft is currently over its mass allocation due to greater than expected increases in the estimated weight of the electrical wiring harnesses and other structures that make up the spacecraft. Project and contractor officials have focused on reducing spacecraft mass because it is the least mature subsystem and can more easily accommodate design changes that will be necessary to address the issue.

ISIM
[Integrated Science Instrument Module] is experiencing technology and engineering challenges that resulted in the use of 18 of ISIM’s 26 months of schedule reserve and the addition of a third test cycle to test replacement detectors in three instruments. Only two instruments were delivered on plan by September 2012. The other two instruments are estimated to be delivered at least 11 months late due to additional issues found during test and integration and workmanship issues. As a result, the test schedule for the ISIM has been delayed by 17 months. Another technical challenge associated with ISIM is the development of the cryo-cooler system that removes heat and cools one of the instrument detectors and heat shield.

Test and Integration Issues
Project officials reported that the JWST schedule has 14 months of funded reserve, which meets Goddard guidance for schedule reserve; however, only 7 of the 14 months will likely be available for the project’s last three of five complex integration and test efforts. GAO’s prior work shows that it is during integration and test where problems are commonly found and schedules tend to slip. Given that JWST has a challenging integration and test schedule, this could particularly be the case. Currently, NASA’s plan for project oversight calls for one independent system integration review about 13 months before launch. While this is consistent with what NASA requires for its projects, this approach may not be sufficient for a project as complex as JWST and may be inadequate to ensure key technical and management issues are identified early enough to be addressed within the project’s current schedule.


It also included this note that indicates NASA Project Office was made aware of these comments:

Project Office Comments
The JWST project provided technical comments to a draft of this assessment, which were incorporated as appropriate. Project officials also commented that, other than the delayed delivery of two instrument, the project completed all external milestones for fiscal year 2012. They added that meeting these milestones reflects performance in line with the rebaseline plan.


GAO Report - NASA Assessments of Selected Large-Scale Projects GAO-13-276SP (April  2103)
http://www.gao.gov/assets/660/653866.pdf
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Re: Subcommittee Hearing on NASA's FY14 Budget Proposal
« Reply #25 on: 04/24/2013 07:07 pm »
Palazzo started off the meeting by saying that he wasn't happy about the increase in space technology in the FY 2014 budget.

Edwards was complaining about the increase in funding for commercial crew.

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Re: Subcommittee Hearing on NASA's FY14 Budget Proposal
« Reply #26 on: 04/24/2013 07:18 pm »
Sounds like Charlie has been reading the redacted WH version of the GAO report.  :D
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Re: Subcommittee Hearing on NASA's FY14 Budget Proposal
« Reply #27 on: 04/24/2013 07:20 pm »
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Re: Subcommittee Hearing on NASA's FY14 Budget Proposal
« Reply #28 on: 04/24/2013 07:22 pm »
On the issue of James Webb, see pages 21 and 22 for more specifics. It seems that the delays might eat into some of the reserves:
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Re: Subcommittee Hearing on NASA's FY14 Budget Proposal
« Reply #29 on: 04/24/2013 07:25 pm »
And they are back.

Mr Brooks likes the asteroid mission. Says it's a reason we need SLS (:))

Says SLS is continuing to receive less money than required, but Commercial Crew is helping three companies (uh oh).

Why the big increase for Commercial Crew and not SLS?

Bolden: If I added the $300m increase for Commercial Crew to SLS you wouldn't know it. We are trying to get close to the level the President asked for commercial crew.

Gerst has said "this" is the money we need for the 2017 mission and EM-2, and we don't need more money for that.

Mr Brooks: Commercial Crew downselect?

Bolden: We said we would promote competition as long as possible. This Spring we'll issue a draft RFP. Next Spring we'll announce the commercial crew supplier (is that news??) We can't carry three vendors, but if we go to one, there is no competition. It would be just like we are with the Russians.

Mr Brooks: Asking about "commercial" element of commercial crew. Is there a private market.

Bolden: I will make an effort to get some of the commercial companies to provide what they sent to their board of directors.
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Re: Subcommittee Hearing on NASA's FY14 Budget Proposal
« Reply #30 on: 04/24/2013 07:25 pm »
Q SLS has received less than the authorized levels
 
no increase in SLS but a major increase for CC?
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Switched the focus back to CC, we need the cash for that.
 
We don't need the money for the Asteroid program (can't believe he is saying this in public)
 
Draft request for proposal spring.
 
He wants competition.
 
Q will CC have NASA as the only customer.
 
A) no public will use it.....
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« Reply #31 on: 04/24/2013 07:25 pm »
Wow. Now that's a hat! :)

Asking about STEM.
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Re: Subcommittee Hearing on NASA's FY14 Budget Proposal
« Reply #32 on: 04/24/2013 07:30 pm »
Bolden mentioned that with $820M, we would probably have enough money for 1.5 commercial crew providers.

Edit: Bolden mentioned this at 46 minutes 40 second of the archived video.
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Re: Subcommittee Hearing on NASA's FY14 Budget Proposal
« Reply #33 on: 04/24/2013 07:30 pm »
Q: Smithsonian cuts etc.
Answer: is that his agency is good and content will be available to everyone.
 
Who oversees STEM
 
The President
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Re: Subcommittee Hearing on NASA's FY14 Budget Proposal
« Reply #34 on: 04/24/2013 07:34 pm »
We did not have a lunar mission in our portfolio.
 
The Lander for the moon would cost 8 billion.
 
Advantage of asteroid mission on the road to Mars.
 
Push technology......
 

 
 
"I don't need new tech to go to the moon, I need money".
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« Reply #35 on: 04/24/2013 07:36 pm »
Mr Stewart asking about NASA goals.....why EM-2 asteroid versus manned moon mission?

Bolden: EM-2 does not replace anything. If we went back to replicate CxP Lunar Missions.....Altair would cost $8-10 billion (wow!). SEP and asteroid missions have been worked on already.

SLS and Orion were made for this capability.

Another question about asteroid versus lunar for stepping stone to Mars.

Bolden: Asteroid mission helps more, cause we need to work on SEP. Mentions VASIMR! Want to go to deep space.

Mr Stewart asking about tech for Lunar.

"We did the moon six times. I don't need any new tech for the moon, I need money. I need new tech for asteroids. We've already started investing in that tech. We have a tech roadmap from NRC. This wasn't an overnight thing. We didn't just think this up. We've been working on this for decades.

Intimates Obama's speech at KSC was like JFK's speech at Rice University, when Obama announced NEA by 2025, Mars by 2035! :D
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« Reply #36 on: 04/24/2013 07:38 pm »
NOAA stuff.....everyone asking about their piece of the pie.

Bolden somehow managed to insert another statement about EM-2.

And more about research.

Exploration Space Suit.

Bolden: It will replace the EMU. Operates in less than 1G. Looks like Buzz Lightyear the one I've seen. Better on the joints. It's a new development.
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Re: Subcommittee Hearing on NASA's FY14 Budget Proposal
« Reply #37 on: 04/24/2013 07:42 pm »
New EMU for Mars
 
Not chosen as yet.
 
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« Reply #38 on: 04/24/2013 07:49 pm »
Mr Posey says Bolden is the best straight-talking admin he's dealt with (I guess across agencies).

On EM-2 cost.

Bolden: EM-2 is a different take on the Keck Study outline.  They didn't have the vehicles and went further out to the rock.

On the alternative moon missions:

Bolden: CxP numbers makes it three times more expensive. Altair cost number quoted at $8-10 billion.

They want a copy of that cost estimate.

Bolden: "You could use SLS to go to the moon."

Anything salvageable from the $9 billion CxP roadmap to nothing.

Bolden notes Orion. And Ares I-X.....forgot about that! :)

Mr Posey going after the JFK comment. "It inspired a nation". "When the asteroid mission was announced, I heard crickets. Why?"

Bolden: We were at war then. Civil issues and so on.
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Re: Subcommittee Hearing on NASA's FY14 Budget Proposal
« Reply #39 on: 04/24/2013 07:49 pm »
Q 2.6 billon for a Asteroid mission
 
A we don't disagree, but we have a different program
 
We expect less costs and have info this summer.
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