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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1220 on: 04/03/2013 09:43 pm »
Emergency repress... More mass.

More than suits plus all the ancillary equipment to keep them going plus the larger/heavier seats to handle them? And more importantly, suits are probably more volume than repress, and that's more much more critical in a reentry vehicle.

It just boils down to: If you need to wear a suit in you pressure vessel, it's not a very good pressure vessel.
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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1221 on: 04/03/2013 10:15 pm »
Emergency repress... More mass.

More than suits plus all the ancillary equipment to keep them going plus the larger/heavier seats to handle them? And more importantly, suits are probably more volume than repress, and that's more much more critical in a reentry vehicle.

It just boils down to: If you need to wear a suit in you pressure vessel, it's not a very good pressure vessel.
Might as well question the oxygen masks in jet liners. They serve the same purpose. It's just that jet liners don't travel above the Armstrong Limit (~19km).
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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1222 on: 04/04/2013 05:16 am »
I've started a thread on "Pressure Suits in Capsules". I think this is an interesting topic that pertains to more than just the CST-100.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31552.0
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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1223 on: 04/05/2013 10:01 pm »
RELEASE : 13-098
 April 5, 2013
 
NASA Commercial Crew Partner Boeing Completes Launch Vehicle Adapter Review
 
 
HOUSTON -- The Boeing Company of Houston, a NASA Commercial Crew Program (CCP) partner, has successfully completed a preliminary design review (PDR) of the component that would connect the company's new crew capsule to its rocket.

The review is one of six performance milestones Boeing has completed for NASA's Commercial Crew Integrated Capability (CCiCap) initiative, which is intended to make available commercial human spaceflight services for government and commercial customers. The company is on track to complete all 19 of its milestones during CCiCap.

Boeing is one of three U.S. companies NASA is working with during CCiCap to set the stage for a crewed orbital demonstration mission around the middle of the decade. Future development and certification initiatives eventually will lead to the availability of human spaceflight services for NASA to send its astronauts to the International Space Station.

The component that was reviewed is called the Launch Vehicle Adapter. The critical structure is being designed by United Launch Alliance (ULA) to join Boeing's Crew Space Transportation-100 (CST-100) spacecraft to ULA's Atlas V rocket, just above the rocket's second stage.

"Solid systems engineering integration is critical to the design of a safe system," said Ed Mango, NASA's CCP manager. "Boeing and all of NASA's partner companies are working to build in proper systems integration into their designs. This review with Boeing and their partner ULA was a good review of the current state of these important design interfaces."

In recent weeks, teams from NASA, Boeing and ULA met at ULA's headquarters in Denver, Colo., to assess requirements and capabilities to safely launch people into low-Earth orbit from U.S. soil once again. The PDR was a culmination of early development and preliminary analysis to demonstrate the design is ready to proceed with detailed engineering.

"The PDR was an outstanding integrated effort by the Boeing, ULA and NASA teams," said John Mulholland, vice president and program manager of Boeing Commercial Programs. "The ULA design leverages the heritage hardware of the Atlas V to integrate with the CST-100, setting the baseline for us to proceed to wind tunnel testing and the Launch Segment-level PDR in June."

In addition to the Launch Vehicle Adapter PDR, Boeing recently completed two additional CCiCap milestones, including the Engineering Release (ER) 2.0 software release and the Landing and Recovery Ground Systems and Ground Communications design review.

The ER 2.0 software release was completed Jan. 25 in Boeing's Avionics and Software Integration Facility Lab in Houston. This test laid the foundation for the software structure to control and fly the spacecraft, as well as communicate with pilots and ground systems.

The landing and recovery ground systems and ground communications design review Jan. 16 to 18 in Titusville, Fla., established the baseline plan for equipment and infrastructure needed for CST-100 spacecraft ground communications and landing and recovery operations.

For more information about NASA's Commercial Crew Program and its aerospace industry partners, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/commercialcrew

 
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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1224 on: 04/08/2013 03:24 pm »
Boeing Completes Preliminary Design Review for Connection Between CST-100 Spacecraft and Rocket

3rd on-schedule Commercial Crew milestone of 2013
 
HOUSTON, April 5, 2013 – The structure that will join the Boeing [NYSE: BA] Crew Space Transportation (CST)-100 spacecraft to an Atlas V rocket has successfully completed a preliminary design review, another step toward the return of humans to space on a U.S. vehicle.

This is the third milestone under the company’s Commercial Crew Integrated Capability (CCiCap) agreement with NASA that Boeing achieved on schedule.

The structure, known as the Launch Vehicle Adapter, is being designed by United Launch Alliance (ULA), which also makes the Atlas V. Completion of this milestone means detailed engineering of the adapter can begin as progress toward the first two CST-100 test flights, as early as 2016, continues.

“This review was an outstanding integrated effort by the Boeing, ULA and NASA teams,” said John Mulholland, vice president and program manager of Boeing Commercial Crew Programs. “It sets the baseline for us to proceed to wind tunnel testing and the launch segment review in June.”

Boeing completed two additional CCiCap milestones earlier this year: the Engineering Release 2.0 software release, which lays the groundwork for spacecraft control and communications, and the Landing & Recovery Ground Systems and Ground Communications design review, which establishes a plan for the equipment and infrastructure needed for ground communications and landing and recovery operations.

Boeing's Commercial Crew Program includes the design, manufacture, test and evaluation, and demonstration of an integrated Commercial Crew Transportation System – comprised of the CST-100 spacecraft, launch vehicle, and ground and mission operations – for NASA's Commercial Crew Development program. The Boeing system will provide crewed flights to the International Space Station and also support the Bigelow Aerospace orbital space complex. The program is based on Boeing's experience and innovation evolved from more than 50 years of human spaceflight and nearly 100 years of commercial aviation.
 
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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1225 on: 04/08/2013 04:52 pm »
Do we have an up to date image of the whole CST-100/Atlas V stack? The only images I've seen running alongside this announcement are old.

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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1226 on: 04/10/2013 04:36 pm »
RELEASE : 13-098
 April 5, 2013
 
NASA Commercial Crew Partner Boeing Completes Launch Vehicle Adapter Review
 
 
HOUSTON -- The Boeing Company of Houston, a NASA Commercial Crew Program (CCP) partner, has successfully completed a preliminary design review (PDR) of the component that would connect the company's new crew capsule to its rocket.

The review is one of six performance milestones Boeing has completed for NASA's Commercial Crew Integrated Capability (CCiCap) initiative, which is intended to make available commercial human spaceflight services for government and commercial customers. The company is on track to complete all 19 of its milestones during CCiCap.

Boeing is one of three U.S. companies NASA is working with during CCiCap to set the stage for a crewed orbital demonstration mission around the middle of the decade. Future development and certification initiatives eventually will lead to the availability of human spaceflight services for NASA to send its astronauts to the International Space Station.

The component that was reviewed is called the Launch Vehicle Adapter. The critical structure is being designed by United Launch Alliance (ULA) to join Boeing's Crew Space Transportation-100 (CST-100) spacecraft to ULA's Atlas V rocket, just above the rocket's second stage.

"Solid systems engineering integration is critical to the design of a safe system," said Ed Mango, NASA's CCP manager. "Boeing and all of NASA's partner companies are working to build in proper systems integration into their designs. This review with Boeing and their partner ULA was a good review of the current state of these important design interfaces."

In recent weeks, teams from NASA, Boeing and ULA met at ULA's headquarters in Denver, Colo., to assess requirements and capabilities to safely launch people into low-Earth orbit from U.S. soil once again. The PDR was a culmination of early development and preliminary analysis to demonstrate the design is ready to proceed with detailed engineering.

"The PDR was an outstanding integrated effort by the Boeing, ULA and NASA teams," said John Mulholland, vice president and program manager of Boeing Commercial Programs. "The ULA design leverages the heritage hardware of the Atlas V to integrate with the CST-100, setting the baseline for us to proceed to wind tunnel testing and the Launch Segment-level PDR in June."

In addition to the Launch Vehicle Adapter PDR, Boeing recently completed two additional CCiCap milestones, including the Engineering Release (ER) 2.0 software release and the Landing and Recovery Ground Systems and Ground Communications design review.

The ER 2.0 software release was completed Jan. 25 in Boeing's Avionics and Software Integration Facility Lab in Houston. This test laid the foundation for the software structure to control and fly the spacecraft, as well as communicate with pilots and ground systems.

The landing and recovery ground systems and ground communications design review Jan. 16 to 18 in Titusville, Fla., established the baseline plan for equipment and infrastructure needed for CST-100 spacecraft ground communications and landing and recovery operations.

For more information about NASA's Commercial Crew Program and its aerospace industry partners, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/commercialcrew
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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1227 on: 05/31/2013 08:04 pm »
Boeing Completes New Spacecraft, Rocket Milestones
May 31, 2013

The Boeing Company of Houston, a NASA Commercial Crew Program (CCP) partner, recently performed wind tunnel testing of its CST-100 spacecraft and integrated launch vehicle, the United Launch Alliance (ULA) Atlas V rocket. The testing is part of NASA's Commercial Crew Integrated Capability (CCiCap) initiative, intended to make commercial human spaceflight services available for government and commercial customers.

Boeing and ULA also worked together to test a newly developed component of the Atlas V's Centaur upper stage. Boeing now has completed two of eight performance milestones under CCiCap and is on track to have completed all 19 of its milestones around mid-2014.

"The Centaur has a long and storied past of launching the agency's most successful spacecraft to other worlds," said Ed Mango, NASA's CCP manager at the agency's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. "Because it has never been used for human spaceflight before, these tests are critical to ensuring a smooth and safe performance for the crew members who will be riding atop the human-rated Atlas V."

The wind tunnel testing, which began in March and wrapped up in May at NASA's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, Calif., were the first interface tests of Boeing's spacecraft, launch vehicle adaptor and launch vehicle. A scale model of the integrated spacecraft and rocket was placed in Ames' 11-foot diameter transonic wind tunnel. The data gathered provides Boeing with critical information it needs to ensure its system is safe for launching crews to low-Earth orbit.

The Centaur liquid oxygen-feed duct line was tested in March in Murrieta, Calif., to characterize how liquid oxygen moves from the stage's oxygen tank to its two engines where the propellant will be mixed with liquid hydrogen to create thrust. The Centaur, which takes over after the Atlas V first stage runs low on propellants, will push the spacecraft to its intended orbit. The Centaur has an extensive and successful history of delivering spacecraft to their destinations, including carrying NASA's Curiosity science rover to Mars.

"The CST-100 and Atlas V, connected with the launch vehicle adaptor, performed exactly as expected and confirmed our expectations of how they will perform together in flight," said John Mulholland, Boeing vice president and program manager for Commercial Programs.

http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/commercial/crew/boeing_ula_lox.html

Image Caption: Shown is the integrated model at NASA's Ames Research Center. The model is a 7 percent model of the Boeing CST-100 spacecraft, launch vehicle adaptor and launch vehicle. Image credit: Boeing

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« Reply #1228 on: 05/31/2013 11:16 pm »
Boeing Completes New Spacecraft, Rocket Milestones
May 31, 2013

The Boeing Company of Houston, a NASA Commercial Crew Program (CCP) partner, recently performed wind tunnel testing of its CST-100 spacecraft and integrated launch vehicle, the United Launch Alliance (ULA) Atlas V rocket. The testing is part of NASA's Commercial Crew Integrated Capability (CCiCap) initiative, intended to make commercial human spaceflight services available for government and commercial customers.

Boeing and ULA also worked together to test a newly developed component of the Atlas V's Centaur upper stage. Boeing now has completed two of eight performance milestones under CCiCap and is on track to have completed all 19 of its milestones around mid-2014.

"The Centaur has a long and storied past of launching the agency's most successful spacecraft to other worlds," said Ed Mango, NASA's CCP manager at the agency's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. "Because it has never been used for human spaceflight before, these tests are critical to ensuring a smooth and safe performance for the crew members who will be riding atop the human-rated Atlas V."

The wind tunnel testing, which began in March and wrapped up in May at NASA's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, Calif., were the first interface tests of Boeing's spacecraft, launch vehicle adaptor and launch vehicle. A scale model of the integrated spacecraft and rocket was placed in Ames' 11-foot diameter transonic wind tunnel. The data gathered provides Boeing with critical information it needs to ensure its system is safe for launching crews to low-Earth orbit.

The Centaur liquid oxygen-feed duct line was tested in March in Murrieta, Calif., to characterize how liquid oxygen moves from the stage's oxygen tank to its two engines where the propellant will be mixed with liquid hydrogen to create thrust. The Centaur, which takes over after the Atlas V first stage runs low on propellants, will push the spacecraft to its intended orbit. The Centaur has an extensive and successful history of delivering spacecraft to their destinations, including carrying NASA's Curiosity science rover to Mars.

"The CST-100 and Atlas V, connected with the launch vehicle adaptor, performed exactly as expected and confirmed our expectations of how they will perform together in flight," said John Mulholland, Boeing vice president and program manager for Commercial Programs.

http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/commercial/crew/boeing_ula_lox.html

Image Caption: Shown is the integrated model at NASA's Ames Research Center. The model is a 7 percent model of the Boeing CST-100 spacecraft, launch vehicle adaptor and launch vehicle. Image credit: Boeing

Hmm..... does it mean that the baseline Atlas V configuration for CST-100 is now a 401? (instead of the 411 as originally reported)
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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1229 on: 06/01/2013 01:23 am »
What makes you say that?

Incidentally, it's the Atlas V 412 (not the 411). It was always going to use the dual engine centaur.
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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1230 on: 06/01/2013 01:32 am »
What makes you say that?

Incidentally, its the Atlas V 412 (not the 411). It was always going to use the dual engine centaur.

I don't see any solids attached to the wind tunnel model above.
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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1231 on: 06/01/2013 06:28 am »
What makes you say that?

Incidentally, its the Atlas V 412 (not the 411). It was always going to use the dual engine centaur.

I don't see any solids attached to the wind tunnel model above.
You don't see the LOX line nor control box either, does not mean it lacks oxygen or steering.

This looks to me as the focus was on the upper portions, and the lower sections were overly simplified, is all.
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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1232 on: 06/01/2013 06:45 am »
What makes you say that?

Incidentally, its the Atlas V 412 (not the 411). It was always going to use the dual engine centaur.

I don't see any solids attached to the wind tunnel model above.
You don't see the LOX line nor control box either, does not mean it lacks oxygen or steering.

This looks to me as the focus was on the upper portions, and the lower sections were overly simplified, is all.

The 412 (and 411, for that matter) only uses one solid -- it might be on the far side.

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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1233 on: 06/01/2013 01:36 pm »
Getting the Centaur human rated is a real good thing.
 
Will the RL-10 be considered Human rated on its own after this process?

Its possible that the RL-10 will be in the SLS per this uber fine article
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/06/sls-pdr-evolved-rocket-dual-upper-stage/

Edit: add link
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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1234 on: 06/13/2013 08:08 pm »
United Launch Alliance Completes Dual Engine Centaur Preliminary Design Review and Development Testing in Support of Commercial Crew Program:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32130.0
http://www.ulalaunch.com/site/pages/News.shtml#/142/
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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1235 on: 07/02/2013 04:29 am »
They may switch to Falcon 9 after the second Atlas V launch.

http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/AW_07_01_2013_p26-589690.xml

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At the recent Space Tech Expo in Long Beach, Calif., he said CST-100 “can be operational as soon as 2016.
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"....We'll be going over [to SpaceX] soon to see what it will take to make sure our new vehicle is compatible with the Falcon 9. If the price point stays extremely attractive then that is the smart thing to do.”
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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1236 on: 07/02/2013 09:44 am »
They may switch to Falcon 9 after the second Atlas V launch.

Wow! Time for ULA to look at its pricing policy again, methinks!
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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1237 on: 07/02/2013 11:36 am »
 Man rating Atlas and Centaur, only to use them for two launches is a pretty expensive backup plan. But, it would be good to have two available launchers. It would be really good if either capsule could fly on either rocket. Keep one accident in Hawthorne from crippling the Dragon program for two years.
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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1238 on: 07/16/2013 08:32 pm »
HOUSTON -- The Boeing Company of Houston is inviting media to view a full-size test version of its CST-100 spacecraft as NASA astronauts conduct evaluations inside it.

The event will begin at 11 a.m. CDT Monday, July 22, at the company's Houston Product Support Center at 13100 Space Center Boulevard.

Boeing is one of three aerospace industry partners working with NASA's Commercial Crew Program on its Commercial Crew Integrated Capability initiative, which is intended to make commercial human spaceflight services available for government and commercial customers.

This event is the first time media have been invited to see a test version of the CST-100 crew capsule. Boeing and NASA representatives will provide remarks and be available for interviews. Chris Ferguson, former space shuttle commander and current director of Boeing Crew and Mission Operations, will conduct a tour of the capsule while two NASA astronauts conduct live flight suit evaluations in the CST-100.

The event participants include:

-- Kathy Lueders, deputy manager, NASA's Commercial Crew Program
-- John Elbon, vice president, Boeing Space Exploration
-- John Mulholland, vice president and program manager, Boeing Commercial Programs
-- Chris Ferguson, director, Boeing Crew and Mission Operations

To participate, journalists should contact Boeing's Kelly George directly no later than 5 p.m. Friday, July 19 at [email protected]. Media will be given access to the event beginning at 10:30 a.m. on Monday.

Security requires media covering this event to present affiliation credentials. For safety, a dress code must be followed at the site: no skirts, no shorts, no sleeveless shirts, and only closed-toe, flat shoes.

For more information about NASA's Commercial Crew Program and its aerospace industry partners, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/commercialcrew
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Re: Boeing's CST-100 capsule updates & discussion
« Reply #1239 on: 07/20/2013 04:11 pm »

Boeing CST-100 Spacecraft Model Passes Water-Recovery Tests


Boeing CST-100 Spacecraft Model Passes Water-Recovery Tests
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HOUSTON, July 19, 2013 – Boeing [NYSE: BA] recently demonstrated that astronauts in its Crew Space Transportation (CST)-100 capsule will be able to safely exit the spacecraft during an emergency water landing.         

Although the CST-100 is designed to land on the ground, Boeing engineers worked with NASA and Department of Defense search-and-recovery personnel to test several emergency water-extraction scenarios.

“Crew safety is our top priority,” said Alex Diaz, Boeing director for the testing.  “A water landing is unlikely, but it’s important that we test the spacecraft in all potential scenarios.”

The testing was done July 8 at Bigelow Aerospace in North Las Vegas, Nev., as part of NASA's Commercial Crew Integrated Capability (CCiCap) initiative.

The CST-100 will transport crew members and cargo to low Earth orbit destinations such as the International Space Station and Bigelow’s planned station. The first piloted orbital flight of the CST-100 capsule is scheduled for 2016.
 
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