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Offline josespeck

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Is this a scud missile?
« on: 07/16/2017 09:53 AM »
According to the title of this video, this is a scud made by hand.



But in this video you see the 56 seconds as they do.



Is it hypergolic or is it another improvised rocket-assisted munition  IRAM?.
If this were a scud and are capable of this at war they will not do in peace and with money. Another NASA ?.
« Last Edit: 07/16/2017 09:55 AM by josespeck »

Offline Sam Ho

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Re: Is this a scud missile?
« Reply #1 on: 07/16/2017 11:22 AM »
Scud is being used very loosely here. From the second video, this is an unguided rail-launched solid rocket, and about half the length and weight of a Scud.

Offline Zed_Noir

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Re: Is this a scud missile?
« Reply #2 on: 07/16/2017 12:29 PM »
Maybe the bottom part of a solid motor powered surface to air missile with an improvised warhead  Used as a rail launched ballistic artillery ordnance. Maybe with a range of less than 10 km and non-supersonic flight from what the video clips show.

The size of the post impact debris cloud shown on the video clips is similar to a large mortar round (120+ mm). So maybe the equivalent of about 25 kg of military grade high explosive like RDX.

Offline Jim

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Re: Is this a scud missile?
« Reply #3 on: 07/16/2017 01:43 PM »
According to the title of this video, this is a scud made by hand.


Scud is not a generic term, it is a specific rocket.

Offline darkenfast

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Re: Is this a scud missile?
« Reply #4 on: 07/20/2017 06:10 AM »
The second video is doctored.  Watch it full screen and in slow motion.  The rocket disappears before the explosion, which in any case is far too accurate to be what we called in my military days a Free Rocket Over Ground (FROG).  The video also mixes in smaller rockets of a different type.  A FROG is generally an unguided, solid-fueled weapon that can be launched from a much smaller vehicle than could fire an equivalent artillery shell but without the accuracy.  When fired from multiple tubed launchers, they can be quite useful for area bombardment.  They are NOT precision tools.

Offline Rebel44

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Re: Is this a scud missile?
« Reply #5 on: 07/29/2017 02:54 PM »
It uses several (solid fuel) rocket motors from Grad rockets - warhead is around 200kg (most likely ANFO)

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Re: Is this a scud missile?
« Reply #6 on: 07/29/2017 03:11 PM »
The second video is doctored.  Watch it full screen and in slow motion.  The rocket disappears before the explosion, which in any case is far too accurate to be what we called in my military days a Free Rocket Over Ground (FROG).  The video also mixes in smaller rockets of a different type.  A FROG is generally an unguided, solid-fueled weapon that can be launched from a much smaller vehicle than could fire an equivalent artillery shell but without the accuracy.  When fired from multiple tubed launchers, they can be quite useful for area bombardment.  They are NOT precision tools.

Nope - its just issue with 30 FPS video - I have access to 60 FPS version in private video archive which doesnt have this issue

Reasonable accurace (in this case it hit, but that happens only in aroudnd 50% of launches) is due to short range (its launched from around 1-2 km from target) and enough practice to fix issues (this was far from being 1st launch of this rocket)

Not all "improvised" weapons are wildly inaccurate - I have seen some "hellconnons" (improvised large calliber mortar)  with experienced crew reliably and repeatedly hitting targets. Obviously that isnt very common because most designs are too crude to achieve such accuracy and most dont have experienced crews.

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Re: Is this a scud missile?
« Reply #7 on: 07/30/2017 01:33 AM »
This is not a Scud

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