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This building is very haphazard in its design. As if it is multiple add-on's (5-10 upgrades/add-on's).

From the standpoint of AC, plumbing and electrical in such numerous add-on's building is a high maintenance cost. Leaks, shorts/opens/overloads, air flow problems, etc.

Almost better to level the building and build a new one unless the building has some expensive features (clean room supposedly) SpaceX would like to use and got it for a cheap price.

Added: The initial structure looks like its was CBS or poured concrete and the add-ons are all metal.
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This building is very haphazard in its design. As if it is multiple add-on's (5-10 upgrades/add-on's).

From the standpoint of AC, plumbing and electrical in such numerous add-on's building is a high maintenance cost. Leaks, shorts/opens/overloads, air flow problems, etc.


There were three and I was responsible for the first, the airlock annex

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This building is very haphazard in its design. As if it is multiple add-on's (5-10 upgrades/add-on's).

From the standpoint of AC, plumbing and electrical in such numerous add-on's building is a high maintenance cost. Leaks, shorts/opens/overloads, air flow problems, etc.


There were three and I was responsible for the first, the airlock annex
How was the maintenance/operation? Any persistent problems that could never seem to be fixed?

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How was the maintenance/operation? Any persistent problems that could never seem to be fixed?

I believe the AC has been turned off for awhile and on the east side, some stucco is coming off

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For unspecified reasons, there has been a delay in finalizing a formal lease agreement between Port Canaveral and SpaceX. So far SpaceX has only been granted a permit for temporary use, and it's unclear if they have begun operations onsite, according to a report yesterday from Orlando Business Journal. The report itemizes the expenses currently in the lease agreement.


Port Canaveral to discuss lease agreement for SpaceX expansion
Nov 22, 2016, 2:08pm EST
 
Matthew Richardson
Reporter
Orlando Business Journal

Plans are still in the works for a rocket manufacturer to have a refurbishment center in Port Canaveral, but a lease agreement is causing a hold up.

Port Canaveral's board of commissioners will discuss a lease agreement sometime in December for SpaceX to occupy a 53,360-square-foot building. Port commissioners postponed the lease vote Nov. 16 due to the agreement not being finalized.
 
Meeting documents detailed a five-year lease charging $306,880 annually, or $8 per square foot. The agreement also shows a port infrastructure fee of $26,680 per year, additional land use totaling $60,990 per year, capital improvement costs of $250,000 and a $90,000 broker commission.

The building is at 620 Magellan Road. The broker for the deal is Lightle Beckner Robinson.
SpaceX, based in Hawthorne, Calf., wants the building to refurbish its spent Falcon 9 rockets that it often launches from Cape Canaveral — a five-mile difference between the two areas. The deal has been in the works since August, but SpaceX has been granted only a temporary use permit. It is unclear if SpaceX is using the building. The company has not given a statement about the expansion and Port Canaveral has not confirmed if the firm already is operating there.

In addition to using an existing structure, SpaceX also plans to build a 44,000-square-foot hangar in Port Canaveral, but those plans have not been approved, either.

SpaceX rocket launch plans have been put on hold due to its Falcon 9 rocket exploding Sept. 1. As of now, SpaceX plans to launch again from Florida in December.

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2016/11/22/port-canaveral-to-discuss-lease-agreement-for.html
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From the Orlando Business Journal:
SpaceX signing lease for rocket refurbishing center in Port Canaveral

Port Canaveral commissioners are set to vote on a lease agreement for SpaceX to renovate a building and reuse it for its rocket refurbishment center.
SpaceX and Port Canaveral have been in talks since last year about a lease for the former 53,360-square-foot SpaceHab building at 620 Magellan Road in Port Canaveral, but commissioners will discuss and vote on the agreement on March 22.
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[Thanks ChrisC for pointing out the right thread.]

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Found this while browsing  8)

SpaceX 'super-excited' about Port Canaveral complex:
http://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/spacex/2017/03/22/spacex-super-excited-port-canaveral-complex/99483242/

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SpaceX Senior Director of Launch Operations Ricky Lim
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Lim made a presentation at the Canaveral Port Authority meeting on Wednesday, just before port commissioners approved a five-year lease agreement with SpaceX.

The lease includes the 53,360-square-foot former SpaceHab facility at 620 Magellan Road on the north side of the port. The company also plans to build an adjacent 44,000-square-foot hangar on the 4-acre parcel.
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Found this while browsing  8)

SpaceX 'super-excited' about Port Canaveral complex:
http://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/spacex/2017/03/22/spacex-super-excited-port-canaveral-complex/99483242/

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SpaceX Senior Director of Launch Operations Ricky Lim
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Lim made a presentation at the Canaveral Port Authority meeting on Wednesday, just before port commissioners approved a five-year lease agreement with SpaceX.

The lease includes the 53,360-square-foot former SpaceHab facility at 620 Magellan Road on the north side of the port. The company also plans to build an adjacent 44,000-square-foot hangar on the 4-acre parcel.
I wonder if SpaceX's plans to do the refurb work at the port itself is part of an agreement to avoid/waive/lower fees the port was talking about charging for their "importing" ASDS landed rockets there.  So, instead of being charged a per core fee, they are agreeing to expand their footprint there and thereby pay more rent.
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I don't think you need to even wonder.  Wasn't exactly that covered earlier in this thread, like a year ago, when the 2nd or 3rd ASDS came back with a first stage on it?
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.@SpaceX gets approval for rocket hangar at Port Canaveral

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/space-news/port-authority-approves-spacex-hanger-for-rocket-storage

https://twitter.com/emspeck/status/880149364244697088

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Elon Musk's commercial space company requested a lease for 2.17 acres to build a more than 67,000 square-foot hangar to store, refurbish and test used rocket boosters and eventually other rocket parts, according to the lease.

Perhaps this is where recovered fairings will go as well?

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I don't think you need to even wonder.  Wasn't exactly that covered earlier in this thread, like a year ago, when the 2nd or 3rd ASDS came back with a first stage on it?

Yes, good memory, the "dock fee"compromise was mentioned in the following article and discussed here last June:

http://www.fox35orlando.com/news/local-news/164663415-story
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https://www.clickorlando.com/news/space-news/port-authority-approves-spacex-hanger-for-rocket-storage

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Elon Musk's commercial space company requested a lease for 2.17 acres to build a more than 67,000 square-foot hangar to store, refurbish and test used rocket boosters and eventually other rocket parts, according to the lease.

Wow, can't wait to see static fires at the port! Exciting! ;)
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https://www.clickorlando.com/news/space-news/port-authority-approves-spacex-hanger-for-rocket-storage

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Elon Musk's commercial space company requested a lease for 2.17 acres to build a more than 67,000 square-foot hangar to store, refurbish and test used rocket boosters and eventually other rocket parts, according to the lease.

Wow, can't wait to see static fires at the port! Exciting! ;)

Testing doesn't have to mean firing of engines.  :) There are many other things to test as you refurbish a booster.

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NOW: Per @BCFRpio roof fire at @SpaceX building @PortCanaveral multiple units on scene. @MyNews13 #Brevard

Is SpaceX using that building yet or is it still being refurbished?

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NOW: Per @BCFRpio roof fire at @SpaceX building @PortCanaveral multiple units on scene. @MyNews13 #Brevard

Is SpaceX using that building yet or is it still being refurbished?

Hopefully this is not the launch control center.


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Spacehab building

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NOW: Per @BCFRpio roof fire at @SpaceX building @PortCanaveral multiple units on scene. @MyNews13 #Brevard

Is SpaceX using that building yet or is it still being refurbished?

Hopefully this is not the launch control center.
No. It was the old Spacehab building. There was a localized roof fire. At the time the fire was reported there was nobody in the building. No injuries reported. Extent of damage not exactly clear but likely confined to the roof.

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https://twitter.com/jbtaylor/status/886763237538226176

Grateful for quick response by Brevard Co. Fire Rescue & Canaveral Fire Rescue. Fortunately no damage to SpaceX equipment or hardware.

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