Author Topic: LIVE: Soyuz-2-1A/Fregat-M – Kanopus-V-IK and others – July 14, 2017 (06:36 UTC)  (Read 31368 times)

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- three, buildt by students, - Iskra-MAI- 85 [Искра-МАИ-85]

Any relation to DOSAAF-85?
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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- three, buildt by students, - Iskra-MAI- 85 [Искра-МАИ-85]

Any relation to DOSAAF-85?

Unlikely, as  Iskra-MAI-85 is 3U Cubesat

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According to Roscosmos there are 72 small satellites (from 1U-cubesat to a satellite with 120kg) on board, including five Russians.
The foreign satellites are from USA, Germany, Japan, Canada and Norway.
The Russians are
- two MKA-N [МКА-Н]
- three, buildt by students, - Iskra-MAI- 85 [Искра-МАИ-85]
                                        - Mayak [Маяк]
                                        - Ecuador UTE-YuZGU [Эквадор UTE-ЮЗГУ]

https://www.roscosmos.ru/23665/

"Spamsats". :(

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1 link says more than a lot of words:
https://twitter.com/ISILaunch/status/856814502079340545

and:
http://www.ecm-space.de/index.php/about-us/news

So in total 73 77 satellites! 72 of them are cubesats?

With help from SkyRocket; Gunter's Space Page I think we can identify all satellites.
Tbd is the amount of Dove's and Lemur's. There are 19 satellites named on Gunter's.
Add 48 Dove's and 68 Lemur's and you end up with 73 75 satellites. +2x CICERO = 77

Edit: Link 3: http://glavkosmos.com/news/glavkosmos-conducts-launch-campaign-for-72-smallsats/

[off topic: Other news from Glavkosmos (Soyuz-2{ST}): a joint venture with KOSMOTRAS (Rockot Dnepr), GK Launch Services. I wonder how GK Launch Services and Ariane-group/space (EUROCKOT/Starlem) relate to each other. Will these EU-Russia joint ventures keep operating or are they ending operations?

Edit: Link4: orbitalsystems.de

« Last Edit: 06/21/2017 10:38 PM by Rik ISS-fan »

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NORSAT-1, NORSAT-2,CICERO-1, CICERO-2, CICERO-3, NanoACE
named at NK-Forum
http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum14/topic14042/message1658900/#message1658900

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- three, buildt by students, - Iskra-MAI- 85 [Искра-МАИ-85]

Any relation to DOSAAF-85?

Unlikely, as  Iskra-MAI-85 is 3U Cubesat

I think it's just that a bunch of Soviet-founded organizations are celebrating their 85th anniversary around now...
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From Plan of Russian space launches (part 2), updated January 30, 2016:
Second quarter – Kanopus-V-IK, Zond, Zvezda, Four satellites from SatByul Co. LTD, Two Corvus-BC, AISSat-3, Lemur+, Tyvark, MKA Mayak, МKA-N, Flock-2k – Soyuz-2-1A/Fregat-M – Baikonur, 31/6

Posted by Vladislav Gooba on Seesat-l on January 28, 2016:
OT: Some details about Russian amateur Mayak satellite
The satellite will carry 4x 4-meter metallized membrane reflectors with 95% reflectivity, and its visual magnitude as the satellite tumbles may peak at -10!
See his post for more details.


As I have noted elsewhere, this has the potential to make astronomers unhappy.
The 4 reflectors are 4  *square* meters, and triangular, so size more like  4 x 2 m each.
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From Roscosmos, solar panel tests in the Kanopus-V-IK spacecraft:
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Russia may launch the brightest 'star' in the sky

Published June 30, 2017 
Fox News

Russia is set to launch potentially the brightest artificial object in the night sky, which could outshine everything except for the Moon, starting next month.


http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/06/30/russia-may-launch-brightest-star-in-sky.html

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I'd like to remind people that this is not the first attempt of Russia to create an artificial star :) Before Mayak, there were Znamya 2 and Znamya 2.5 in 1993 and 1999. Znamya 2 was successful, but Znamya 2.5 got stuck into one of the Mir antennas and failed. Znamya 3 was also planned, but never built.

And yes, astronomers complained back then too: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/137343.stm


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Pictures of satellite integration (Kanopus-V-IK and Cube/nano/micro-satellites) with the Fregat:


https://www.roscosmos.ru/23733/
-DaviD-

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A case of chose your side here over this particular object.

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"We fight so hard for dark skies in and around our planet,” Nick Howes, an astronomer and former deputy director of the Kielder Observatory in Northumberland, told IFLScience. “To see this being potentially ruined by some ridiculous crowdfunded nonsense makes my heart simply despair.”

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Alex Shaenko, the project leader, told IFLScience previously that it “will not be a problem,” adding that there “are a lot of spacecraft flying in the night sky, some even brighter than Mayak.” That’s true to an extent, but a lot of these can be easily tracked and corrected for.

http://www.iflscience.com/space/a-russian-mission-to-create-a-new-star-will-launch-in-two-weeks/
« Last Edit: 07/06/2017 06:44 AM by Star One »

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A good question we need to ask is: Do we really need a space mirror?

The Soviet Union did plan to build these in order to illuminate cold Siberian cities with less light during the winter, and to improve farm production... So they researched this during 70s and 80s, and implemented the Znamya project in 90s.

Apparently the Mayak creators have nothing to do with the original goals of the projects. They just want this as a public stunt. Which in itself is good.

The one thing I wonder is... why a space mirror, why not test Solar Sailing?

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A good question we need to ask is: Do we really need a space mirror?

The Soviet Union did plan to build these in order to illuminate cold Siberian cities with less light during the winter, and to improve farm production... So they researched this during 70s and 80s, and implemented the Znamya project in 90s.

Apparently the Mayak creators have nothing to do with the original goals of the projects. They just want this as a public stunt. Which in itself is good.

The one thing I wonder is... why a space mirror, why not test Solar Sailing?

Yes a publicity stunt that judging by Twitter has done nothing but annoy astronomers both professional and amateur.

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News from GLAVKOSMOS; Smallsats have been integrated with Fregat
The article also contains a payload list.

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Here's the list of satellites. 72 microsats and cubesats all together.

Flying Laptop microsat (Germany)
TechnoSat microsat (Germany)
WNISAT-1R microsat (Japan)
NORSAT-1 microsat (Norway/Canada)
NORSAT-2 microsat (Norway/Canada)
48 Dove 3U CubeSats as part of Flock-2k (USA)
3 CICERO 6U CubeSats (USA)
2 Corvus-BC 6U CubeSats (USA)
8 LEMUR 3U CubeSats (USA)
NanoACE 3U CubeSat (USA)
Mayak 3U CubeSat (Moscow Polytechnic University, Russia)
Iskra-MAI-85 3U CubeSat (Moscow Aviation Institute, Russia)
Equador UTE-SWSU 1U CubeSat (Southwest State University, Russia)
2 MKA-N 6U CubeSats (DAURIA Aerospace, Russia)
« Last Edit: 07/07/2017 09:28 AM by Steven Pietrobon »
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I've counted the ISIS QuadPacks and ECM Deployers.
I came to 2x plates with 6xQP, so 12x Quadpacks; and
two plates with (ECM) Astrofein PSL-P (PicoSatellite Launch Pack; 12U), one with 3 deployers and one with 2. So 5x PSL-P .
This is in total 17x 12U = 204U.

I've also calculated the total U-volume of the satellites. this is 220U.

ECM looks to have three PSL-P's with 4 doors; one with 2 and one with 3.
So they launch 3x 6U and 14x 3U (or a 1U)

The clue is in comparing this image from ECM (also attatched to the first post) with the last picture from Roskosmos.

Edit:
It looks like I've overlooked a plate beneath FlyingLaptop. This blogpost from planet indicates that all 48 doves are integrated inside 12 QP. From a ISL tweet we know that the two Corvus-BC (6U) are integrated inside a QP.
In the blog, planet also stated that CST arranged the launch. DAURIA aerospace is one of the partners of CST.
Aren't the Corvus-BC and MKA-N practicality the same? Could they also have been integrated inside a QP.
If this is correct ISL11 involves 48 doves (12 QP) and 2QP with two 6U.
The new total is 19x a 12U deployer, 228U.

There also looks to be a deployer inside the structure beneath Kanopus-V-IK. This could also be a deployment controller.
« Last Edit: 07/08/2017 02:33 PM by Rik ISS-fan »

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On July 9, 2017, in the assembly and testing building of platform 31 of the Baikonur cosmodrome, the specialists of the companies of Roscosmos completed the operations on the docking of the space head with the third stage of the Soyuz-2.1a carrier rocket in preparation for the launch of the spacecraft Canopus- B-IC "and a cluster of 72 small satellites of the associated load.

On July 10, work is planned on the general assembly of the space rocket (RKN), consideration by the state commission of the results of the preparation of ILV and ground equipment, as well as the decision on the export of the Soyuz-2.1a rocket to the launch pad.

The launch of the Soyuz-2.1a rocket with the Kanopus-V-IK spacecraft is scheduled for July 14, 2017 at 09:36 Moscow time from site # 31 of the Baikonur cosmodrome. The "Fregat" upper stage will ensure the removal of the "Kanopus-V-IK" spacecraft and associated small satellites into three different orbits.

Photos by КЦ «Южный»/ЦЭНКИ/РОСКОСМОС

https://www.roscosmos.ru/23744/
« Last Edit: 07/09/2017 07:27 PM by SMS »
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