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Re: China's manned Moon plans
« Reply #180 on: 01/17/2017 03:13 AM »
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Re: China's manned Moon plans
« Reply #181 on: 02/01/2017 07:10 AM »
Comparison of the latest drawing of CZ-9 with that from 2016. We can see a different engine arrangement on the core. LEO payload is still the same at 140 t, LTO (Lunar Transfer Orbit) the same at 50 t, but MTO (Mars Transfer Orbit) has decreased from 44 t to 37 t. Perhaps the later case is assuming the worse case Mars window.
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Re: China's manned Moon plans
« Reply #182 on: 06/14/2017 03:32 AM »
AWST have finally caught up. First flight of CZ-9 could be in 2028 with the presumably the landing in 2030.

“We are mainly talking about a first flight around 2028-30,” Lu told reporters at the Global Space Exploration Conference here. “The rocket is for deep space missions and especially for setting up a lunar base for manned missions.”

http://aviationweek.com/space/chinas-calt-aims-fly-proposed-long-march-9-moon-rocket-2030
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Re: China's manned Moon plans
« Reply #183 on: 06/19/2017 04:30 PM »
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How a Soviet Lander Could Help Chinese Astronauts Reach the Moon
Shelved more than 40 years ago, the Soviet LK lander could help build the space boat that ferries China's astronauts to the Moon.

By Anatoly Zak Jun 19, 2017

http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/moon-mars/a26975/china-soviet-lander-lk/
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Re: China's manned Moon plans
« Reply #184 on: 06/19/2017 04:46 PM »
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How a Soviet Lander Could Help Chinese Astronauts Reach the Moon
Shelved more than 40 years ago, the Soviet LK lander could help build the space boat that ferries China's astronauts to the Moon.
By Anatoly Zak Jun 19, 2017
http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/moon-mars/a26975/china-soviet-lander-lk/

No proof of course, but I believe that the Chinese (wo-)manned lander will be more capable than either the Soviet LK or the American LM.

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Re: China's manned Moon plans
« Reply #185 on: 06/19/2017 06:59 PM »
So, Blok-E with RD-858 or Dnepr derivative version of it ?
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Re: China's manned Moon plans
« Reply #186 on: 06/20/2017 06:46 PM »
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How a Soviet Lander Could Help Chinese Astronauts Reach the Moon
Shelved more than 40 years ago, the Soviet LK lander could help build the space boat that ferries China's astronauts to the Moon.

By Anatoly Zak Jun 19, 2017

http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/moon-mars/a26975/china-soviet-lander-lk/

Things coming full circle. I didn't knew that the LK engine had been repurposed for upper stages. Then again, so was the LM TR-201 on Delta. Good engines never die.

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Re: China's manned Moon plans
« Reply #187 on: 07/14/2017 10:37 AM »
The IAC2017 paper schedule is out. The last paper in this list might be on CZ-9 as the previous paper is on CZ-5 and CZ-7.

"The research on development of China's heavy launch vehicle" Dr. Tong Qin, Beijing institute of Astronautical Systems Engineering

https://iafastro.directory/iac/browse/IAC-17/D2/1/

Some other Chinese Moon related papers. I'll be presenting in this session as well.

"Architecture Design and Analysis of an Reusable Cislunar Transportation System from LEO Space Station." Mr. Zilong Cheng, National University of Defense Technology

"Manned Lunar Landing Mission Scale Analysis and Flight Scheme Selection Based on Mission Architecture Matrix," Prof. Xiaohui Wang, Beihang University

https://iafastro.directory/iac/browse/IAC-17/D2/8-A5.4/
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