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History of Titan III
« on: 03/05/2009 01:00 PM »
Here is an official USAF history of the Titan III rocket up to 1963.  It is in two parts.

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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #1 on: 03/05/2009 03:06 PM »
Thanks for all the documents you have uploaded recently...........
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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #2 on: 03/05/2009 03:09 PM »
Very interesting documents. Nice they have a Titan-III history long before the first flight.

I enjoy the Thor documents too.

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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #3 on: 03/05/2009 06:17 PM »
Thanks for all the documents you have uploaded recently...........

You're welcome.  I have a high-speed scanner at work, so the scanning is relatively easy.

Have recently started sorting through the mess of files that I have (I let my filing get out of control) and so when I find something interesting, I bring it and scan it.  I'll have a few more interesting things next week.

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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #4 on: 03/05/2009 09:29 PM »
Thanks - we all are looking forward to more details!
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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #5 on: 03/06/2009 07:58 AM »
VERY interesting, because it's not as dry as most officially-sanctioned histories.

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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #6 on: 03/08/2009 11:49 PM »
     Has anyone ever made a concerted effort to collect Titan launch
pics a la Peter Hunter's mighty Atlas and Thor/Delta collections?  There are many I have never seen: the Helios launches, for example.  Hell, I've never even seen a good MOL launch that hadn't had the hell cropped out of it :(

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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #7 on: 03/08/2009 11:53 PM »
where are these collections?

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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #8 on: 03/09/2009 12:18 AM »
There are a bunch of nice Titan launch images at this link, including several Titan III launches associated with MOL development.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Titan_(rocket)
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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #9 on: 03/09/2009 12:28 AM »
Peter Hunter put out 1 each Atlas in the 20th Century and 1 Thor-Delta 1957-2004 CD/DVD of all flown vehicles except where missing pics could  not be located. The flight history is sorted 4 ways: chronologically, by vehicle type, by payload and by launch site. Some unique photos and data are part of these must have collections. Perhaps someone will volunteer to provide copies upon request. Although Thor-Delta is the title of one CD it includes all Thors.
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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #10 on: 03/09/2009 01:25 AM »
so how do I get  copies?

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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #11 on: 03/09/2009 01:26 AM »
     Has anyone ever made a concerted effort to collect Titan launch
pics a la Peter Hunter's mighty Atlas and Thor/Delta collections?  There are many I have never seen: the Helios launches, for example.  Hell, I've never even seen a good MOL launch that hadn't had the hell cropped out of it :(

Not much but this is the best I can offer for Helios........other people?
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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #12 on: 03/09/2009 01:41 AM »
Sorry about the bad picture, but can anyone tell me about the three LV's to the left in this poster (the Titan IV is a conceptual drawing)
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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #13 on: 03/09/2009 01:47 AM »
Sorry about the bad picture, but can anyone tell me about the three LV's to the left in this poster (the Titan IV is a conceptual drawing)

1st left is Titan I R&D 1960 or 1961
next is Titan II R&D    1962 or 1963 or 1964 has belly bands so most
                                                            likely 1962
next is Titan 3C (might be 34D with 5-1/2 segments)

Is this any help?
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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #14 on: 03/09/2009 01:59 AM »
     Has anyone ever made a concerted effort to collect Titan launch
pics a la Peter Hunter's mighty Atlas and Thor/Delta collections?  There are many I have never seen: the Helios launches, for example.  Hell, I've never even seen a good MOL launch that hadn't had the hell cropped out of it :(

No.  I talked to Peter about this and he thought that a Titan collection would be difficult to assemble.  In both the case of the Atlas and Thor collections, he had access to a very large collection of photos that a contractor made available to him.  Peter's a 747 pilot for Qantas and used to spend his layover days at LAX by driving down to San Diego and scanning photos.  Lots of work, but he assembled a great resource.  I used it for developing an article on the Thor "heavy ferret" launches during the 1960s into the early 1970s.  I noticed several variations in the payload shrouds that indicated payload variations.

There is apparently no single collection of Titan photos that we know of.  Also, the contractor is not as open as for the Atlas and Thor.  And there's nobody to assemble it.  Peter did it because he had free time and he had a trainspotter's obsession.  You'd have to find somebody to be just as obsessive about the Titan.
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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #15 on: 03/09/2009 02:13 AM »
Sorry about the bad picture, but can anyone tell me about the three LV's to the left in this poster (the Titan IV is a conceptual drawing)

1st left is Titan I R&D 1960 or 1961
next is Titan II R&D    1962 or 1963 or 1964 has belly bands so most
                                                            likely 1962
next is Titan 3C (might be 34D with 5-1/2 segments)

Is this any help?

Yes thank you.  I have had this poster above the headboard of my bed for 15 years, just never got to figure out what each one was.
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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #16 on: 03/09/2009 05:31 AM »
     Yes, the effort required to assemble such good selections cannot be underestimated.  He has done us all an enormous service.  Mind you, it helps when you turn up at an aerospace company saying you fly 747's!  You and I would be turned away at the door...
      Now we need launches like TacSat, Sphinx and DODGE.
      P.S: Thanks for the Helios pics :)
      Here's a better-than-wiki Mars Observer...

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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #17 on: 03/09/2009 06:47 AM »
so how do I get  copies?

I would be interested in the answer too.

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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #18 on: 03/09/2009 06:54 AM »
There are a bunch of nice Titan launch images at this link, including several Titan III launches associated with MOL development.

There was only one MOL related launch: C-9, November 1966. You could count other development launched MOL related, but this would be a stretch quite a bit.

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Re: History of Titan III
« Reply #19 on: 03/09/2009 07:05 AM »
     I just get 'Page does not exist'.
     

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