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Online Eerie

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2160 on: 07/27/2017 02:53 PM »
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Jeff Bezos Surpasses Bill Gates as World's Richest Person
By Shelly Hagan and Spencer Soper
27 July 2017, 14:32 GMT+1

    His net worth climbs more than $1 billion in intraday trading
    Gates has held top spot on Bloomberg wealth index since 2013

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-27/bezos-surpasses-gates-as-world-s-richest-ahead-of-amazon-results

Whether Bezos has $80b or $90b has no real impact on Blue Origin.

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Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2161 on: 07/27/2017 04:50 PM »
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Jeff Bezos Surpasses Bill Gates as World's Richest Person
By Shelly Hagan and Spencer Soper
27 July 2017, 14:32 GMT+1

    His net worth climbs more than $1 billion in intraday trading
    Gates has held top spot on Bloomberg wealth index since 2013

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-27/bezos-surpasses-gates-as-world-s-richest-ahead-of-amazon-results

More details from the Financial Times.

 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/ebc815f6-72d9-11e7-93ff-99f383b09ff9
« Last Edit: 07/27/2017 04:51 PM by Star One »

Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2162 on: 07/28/2017 04:23 PM »
Some pictures of new Shepard and crew capsule Oshkosh 2017.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2163 on: 07/28/2017 11:57 PM »
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Wow! Look who else is here at #OSH17 - our @blueorigin friends have some flight-tested hardware to show off.
Stood next to it during Barenaked Ladies concert last night. A night to remember. Heard it is the vehicle that was used to test capsule escape. Why it is so beat up. It looks like it is built like a tank.

It is a tank.
« Last Edit: 07/28/2017 11:58 PM by AncientU »
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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2164 on: 07/29/2017 02:36 AM »
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Wow! Look who else is here at #OSH17 - our @blueorigin friends have some flight-tested hardware to show off.
Stood next to it during Barenaked Ladies concert last night. A night to remember. Heard it is the vehicle that was used to test capsule escape. Why it is so beat up. It looks like it is built like a tank.

It is a tank.

Bezos must get inspiration from watching the BSG TV series on the Sci-Fi cable channel.  :)

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2165 on: 07/29/2017 04:54 AM »
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Wow! Look who else is here at #OSH17 - our @blueorigin friends have some flight-tested hardware to show off.
Stood next to it during Barenaked Ladies concert last night. A night to remember. Heard it is the vehicle that was used to test capsule escape. Why it is so beat up. It looks like it is built like a tank.

It is a tank.

Bezos must get inspiration from watching the BSG TV series on the Sci-Fi cable channel.  :)

I'm pretty sure "It is a tank" was a bit tongue-in-cheek. :P
« Last Edit: 07/29/2017 04:57 AM by Req »

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2166 on: 07/29/2017 05:57 AM »
Friday shortly after noon, Jeff Bezos was in Oshkosh showing his New Shepard rocket to Buzz Aldrin, Jim Lovell, Walter Cunningham, Gene Kranz, Frank Borman, Fred Haise, Al Worden, and Joe Engle.  Stan Lee of Marvel Comics fame was also included.  Jeff spoke to the crowd.  He said New Glenn should fly in 2020.  None of the Blue Origin people had any info on when New Shepard will fly with passengers.  Nor do they know what the ticket price will be.
« Last Edit: 07/29/2017 06:05 AM by Eric Hedman »

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2167 on: 07/29/2017 07:11 AM »
Blue Origin Offers Priority for Repeat Riders

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The next test flight will likely be before the end of the year, featuring a capsule with real panoramic windows instead of the test article’s plain cabin walls, says Ariane Cornell, head of Astronaut Strategy & Sales for Blue Origin.

Looks like we need to wait for a while longer...

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2168 on: 07/31/2017 12:55 AM »
That isn't the original engine installed on it right? Why is it so warped?

Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2169 on: 07/31/2017 01:11 AM »
I asked someone manning the display in a Blue Origin outfit. They said the engine nozzle did warp from use but couldn't say if they have to change out the nozzles between reuse.

Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2170 on: 07/31/2017 12:47 PM »
During the crew capsule demonstration it was stated that it would be a soft landing. When asked if it was "Russia soft" or "America soft" the answer was America. Also the parachutes are double redundant, if two parachutes fail to deploy crew is safe with crushable seats.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2171 on: 07/31/2017 01:10 PM »
During the crew capsule demonstration it was stated that it would be a soft landing. When asked if it was "Russia soft" or "America soft" the answer was America. Also the parachutes are double redundant, if two parachutes fail to deploy crew is safe with crushable seats.
Best question evar. 😂
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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2172 on: 07/31/2017 06:57 PM »
I asked someone manning the display in a Blue Origin outfit. They said the engine nozzle did warp from use but couldn't say if they have to change out the nozzles between reuse.
I asked if the engine was still in.  He said it had been removed.  I looked from beneath the nozzle and there was a plug in the throat.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2173 on: 08/03/2017 01:10 AM »
Blue Origin

Commercial Space Capabilities Collaboration (CSCC) Space Act Agreement (SAA)   

Technical Exchanges

o Radiation Tolerance and Avionics Design
o SLS Structures: Design, Materials, and Analytical Techniques
o Fire Safety (SAFFIRE outbrief)
o Environmental Corrosion Test Site Capabilities (KSC)
o Hot Gas Facility Capabilities (MSFC)
o Navigation Development (GSFC)
o Milestone #3: May 2017 
   - Progress Review of New Shepard Subscale Crew Transportation System (Blue Origin Facility)

Data Exchange
o Various software requests and technical documentation exchanges in work

Look Ahead
o Milestone #4, Nov 2017
  - Progress Review of Rocket Propulsion Systems
o Continued Technical and Data Exchange   

See slide 22:
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/ccp_nac_july24_2017.pdf
« Last Edit: 08/03/2017 01:20 AM by yg1968 »

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2174 on: 08/03/2017 05:17 AM »
Blue Origin

Commercial Space Capabilities Collaboration (CSCC) Space Act Agreement (SAA)   

Technical Exchanges

o Radiation Tolerance and Avionics Design
o SLS Structures: Design, Materials, and Analytical Techniques
o Fire Safety (SAFFIRE outbrief)
o Environmental Corrosion Test Site Capabilities (KSC)
o Hot Gas Facility Capabilities (MSFC)
o Navigation Development (GSFC)

o Milestone #3: May 2017 
   - Progress Review of New Shepard Subscale Crew Transportation System (Blue Origin Facility)

Data Exchange
o Various software requests and technical documentation exchanges in work

Look Ahead
o Milestone #4, Nov 2017
  - Progress Review of Rocket Propulsion Systems
o Continued Technical and Data Exchange   


See slide 22:
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/ccp_nac_july24_2017.pdf
So Bezos is first building a rocket to launch very small people?
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2175 on: 08/03/2017 12:28 PM »
New Glenn will be bigger and presumably have more room for people in its capsule.
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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2176 on: 08/03/2017 12:37 PM »
Still, I thought the "subscale" part was odd. Does that mean a tiny version of New Shepard? Or that New Shepard is a tiny version of something else?

New Shepard isn't really a "crew transportation system", either.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2177 on: 08/03/2017 01:11 PM »
Still, I thought the "subscale" part was odd. Does that mean a tiny version of New Shepard? Or that New Shepard is a tiny version of something else?

New Shepard isn't really a "crew transportation system", either.

New Shepard is a functional crew transportation system of which the booster is too small to do any actual transporting, making it subscale.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2178 on: 08/03/2017 01:36 PM »
Still, I thought the "subscale" part was odd. Does that mean a tiny version of New Shepard? Or that New Shepard is a tiny version of something else?

New Shepard isn't really a "crew transportation system", either.

New Shepard is a functional crew transportation system of which the booster is too small to do any actual transporting, making it subscale.

IIRC the ECLSS is only suitable for a few minutes of flight, and I doubt the heat shield would survive an orbital entry. It's more like a very high roller coaster than actual transportation.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2179 on: 08/03/2017 03:59 PM »
There orbital vehicle uses a Biconic capsule, last time released any info on it. Totally different beast to NS capsule.

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