Author Topic: Rokot – Three Gonets-M (blok № 14); Kosmos-2504 – March 31, 2015 (13:47:56 UTC)  (Read 53231 times)

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Payload: Gonets-M blok № 14
Rocket: Rokot 14А05


State Centre for Space Research and Production, in the name of M.V. Khrunichev
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Rokot

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Изготовление и поставка ракеты космического назначения «Рокот» для запуска КА «Гонец-М» № 21, 22, 23 (14А05-0000-0)
470 994 000 Russian ruble
Order placed: 14th March 2013
Contractual period: up to 25th December 2014
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Delivery to launch site

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Подготовка к транспортировке, транспортировка, сопровождение РКН «Рокот» для запуска КА «Гонец-М» № 21-23 в эксплуатирующую организацию и возврат спецтранспорта на предприятие.
8 992 000 Russian ruble
Order placed: 13th December 2013
Contractual period: up to 25th December 2014
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Joint Stock Company «Information Satellite Systems» in the name of Academician M.F. Reshetnev
Открытое акционерное общество «Информационные спутниковые системы» имени академика М.Ф. Решетнёва

Blok № 14 with Gonets-M № 21, 22 and 23, and attachment mechanism 14С137

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Изготовление блока КА «Гонец-М» (изделия 372АС71) № 14 в составе КА «Гонец-М» № 21, 22, 23 и устройства отделения (изделия 14С137.0100-0)
(372АС11.0000-0ТУ, 372АС71.0000-0ТУ)
639 112 000 Russian ruble
Order placed: 3rd July 2012
Delivery: 4th quarter 2014
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Gonets-M: 3× 210 841 800 Russian ruble
14С137: 1× 6 586 600 Russian ruble

Delivery to launch site

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Транспортировка блока КА «Гонец-М» (изделия 372АС71) № 14 в составе КА «Гонец-М» № 21, 22, 23 и устройства отделения (изделия 14С137.0100-0)
(372АС11.0000-0ТУ, 372АС71.0000-0ТУ)
7 390 200 Russian ruble
Order placed: 3rd July 2012
Delivery: 4th quarter 2014
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Gonets-M: 3× 2 463 400 Russian ruble



« Last Edit: 31 March 2015 08:07:21 PM by Satori »
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Re: Gonets-M blok № 14
« Reply #1 on: 11/13/2013 04:30 pm »
Delivery of Rokot to launch site

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Транспортировка ракеты космического назначения «Рокот» для запуска КА «Гонец-М» № 21-23
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/pgz/public/action/orders/info/common_info/show?notificationId=7531049

1st post updated.

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Re: Gonets-M blok № 14
« Reply #2 on: 12/15/2013 06:05 pm »
Tender from the Centre for Operation of Land-Based Space Infrastructure (TsENKI) for insurance to cover various launches, including «Meteor-M», «Luch-5V», «Elektro-L», «Resurs-P», «MKA-FKI», «Gonets-M»:-
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?noticeId=699599

Direct links to the documents, dated 28th November 2013:-
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/download/download.html?id=3582627
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/download/download.html?id=3580483

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Запуск космического аппарата: КА «Гонец-М»
Объект страхования: РН «Рокот», РБ «Бриз-КМ», КА «Гонец-М» № 21, 22, 23
Страховая сумма (лимит ответственности) млн.руб.: 1 110,000
Дата запуска: IV квартал 2014 г.

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Launch of satellite: satellite Gonets-M
Insured items: rocket Rokot, upper stage Briz-KM, satellites Gonets-M № 21, 22, 23
The sum insured (limit of liability), million ruble: 1 110,000
Launch date: 4th quarter of 2014
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Re: Rokot – Gonets-M blok № 14 – 3rd March 2015
« Reply #3 on: 01/19/2015 03:49 pm »
Latest "official" news report about Russian launches, this time for February - March 2015: http://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=363303

The new dates are:

March 3 - 3x Gonets-M [block 14]
March 17 -  Ekspress-AM7

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Re: Rokot – Gonets-M blok № 14 – 3rd March 2015
« Reply #4 on: 01/26/2015 07:52 am »
All 3 satellites have been delivered to Plesetsk a few days ago: http://www.iss-reshetnev.ru/?cid=news&nid=1833
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Re: Rokot – Gonets-M blok № 14 – 3rd March 2015
« Reply #5 on: 01/28/2015 07:54 pm »
based on some talks there most likely will not be a fourth Kosmos on this flight but probably next since there is an unflown payload at the MIK

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Re: Rokot – Gonets-M blok № 14 – 3rd March 2015
« Reply #6 on: 02/19/2015 06:21 pm »
Briz-KM originally manufactured to launch Kanopus-V-IK, since moved to Soyuz-2-1A.
Is № 72526 for a Kanopus satelite?
No, Gonets.

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15A05 Rokot/Briz-KM (4929794554/72526)
http://www.zenite.nu/orbita
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Re: Rokot – Gonets-M blok № 14 – 3rd March 2015
« Reply #7 on: 02/19/2015 08:44 pm »
http://www.zenite.nu/orbita/spacex-lanca-satelite-dscovr-para-a-noaa/

Wow ! We can find a link about SpaceX even in a thread dedicated to a UR-100NU Soviet nuclear missile launch ! :D
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Re: Rokot – Gonets-M blok № 14 – 3rd March 2015
« Reply #8 on: 02/19/2015 08:48 pm »
http://www.zenite.nu/orbita/spacex-lanca-satelite-dscovr-para-a-noaa/

Wow ! We can find a link about SpaceX even in a thread dedicated to a UR-100NU Soviet nuclear missile launch ! :D

They do appear to be spreading across all things… try to keep your voice down, or you’ll find this thread hijacked by their groupies.
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Re: Rokot – Gonets-M blok № 14 – 3rd March 2015
« Reply #9 on: 02/20/2015 07:39 am »
So the fifth digit of the serial number indicates that the batch production date of this rocket was 1989?
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36777.0

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Re: Rokot – Gonets-M blok № 14 – 3rd March 2015
« Reply #10 on: 02/20/2015 05:58 pm »
So the fifth digit of the serial number indicates that the batch production date of this rocket was 1989?
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36777.0
yes

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Re: Rokot – Gonets-M blok № 14 – 3rd March 2015
« Reply #11 on: 02/23/2015 04:14 pm »
based on some talks there most likely will not be a fourth Kosmos on this flight but probably next since there is an unflown payload at the MIK

Is the unflown payload DOSAAF-85?  Given the previous Gonets-M triplet launch last year, it appears that it was scheduled to launch with that set, but then not.  Link to topic below:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32815.0

Link to satellite's page on Gunter's Space Page:
http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/dosaaf-85.htm

If DOSAAF-85 doesn't launch on this flight, then when?

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based on some talks there most likely will not be a fourth Kosmos on this flight but probably next since there is an unflown payload at the MIK

Is the unflown payload DOSAAF-85?  Given the previous Gonets-M triplet launch last year, it appears that it was scheduled to launch with that set, but then not.  Link to topic below:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32815.0

Link to satellite's page on Gunter's Space Page:
http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/dosaaf-85.htm

If DOSAAF-85 doesn't launch on this flight, then when?

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Its launch can occur on any flight that aligns with its predecessor SC's, its just a matter of being made ready for a launch instead of overrunning on processing. there is 50% chance it will be launched otherwise ballast will be in its place on the launcher.

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Looks like this launch is almost certain to slip past tomorrow due to "unspecified technical reasons": http://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=368274
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Due to collision
(according NK forum)
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Due to collision
(according NK forum)

That poor rocket will be grounded for >10 days ("no launch in at least a week an a half"): http://ria.ru/space/20150302/1050528118.html
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Re: Rokot – Gonets-M blok № 14 – Mid-March, 2015
« Reply #17 on: 03/03/2015 04:29 pm »
Due to collision
(according NK forum)
That's not correct.
This message reflects my personal opinion based on open sources of information.

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Re: Rokot – Gonets-M blok № 14 – Mid-March, 2015
« Reply #18 on: 03/04/2015 09:14 am »
Due to collision
(according NK forum)
That's not correct.

According to http://tass.ru/kosmos/1806760 it's a first stage engine problem that needs inspection. The rocket was rolled back to the HIF.

I wonder if this is related to what seems to be a UR-100N failure during a hypersonic reentry test launched from Dombarovskiy on February 26?
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Re: Rokot – Gonets-M blok № 14 – April 2015
« Reply #19 on: 03/16/2015 02:39 pm »
Slipping into April: http://tass.ru/kosmos/1831026
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Briz-KM Upper Stage I would assume?
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Briz-KM Upper Stage I would assume?

All Rokot flies with it, or it isn't a Rokot.  ;)
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Briz-KM Upper Stage I would assume?

All Rokot flies with it, or it isn't a Rokot.  ;)

I assumed! ;D But I'd look a fool if I simply didn't check.

So let's all wait to hear if this one launches on time!
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Early Rokots have flown with Briz-K upper stage, also there were plans of Briz-KS use with Rokots.

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Still on time: http://ria.ru/space/20150331/1055678978.html

Liftoff in 5 minutes time.
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Liftoff confirmed at 13:48 UTC: http://www.interfax.ru/russia/433377
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Confirmed nominal deployment of the Briz-KM from the lower stages: http://ria.ru/space/20150331/1055722130.html

The satellites are expected to separate at 15:45 UTC.
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Hmm did I read right? The link in my last post seems to have quoted the VKO spokesperson that there's a military satellite carried along with the Gonets trio?  :-X
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Hmm did I read right? The link in my last post seems to have quoted the VKO spokesperson that there's a military satellite carried along with the Gonets trio?  :-X

Yes, you read right ! Probably a new "Cosmos 2499".
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Hmm did I read right? The link in my last post seems to have quoted the VKO spokesperson that there's a military satellite carried along with the Gonets trio?  :-X

Yes, you read right ! Probably a new "Cosmos 2499".

That's three of these now isn't it?

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Hmm did I read right? The link in my last post seems to have quoted the VKO spokesperson that there's a military satellite carried along with the Gonets trio?  :-X

Yes, you read right ! Probably a new "Cosmos 2499".

That's three of these now isn't it?
They have all been launched around the same time of the year and mainly into the same plane.

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Eighth orbital launch in six days.  Four of them were Navsat launches.  Navsat season I suppose.  Maybe something about the period of vernal equinox.

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Hmm did I read right? The link in my last post seems to have quoted the VKO spokesperson that there's a military satellite carried along with the Gonets trio?  :-X

Yes, you read right ! Probably a new "Cosmos 2499".

That's three of these now isn't it?
They have all been launched around the same time of the year and mainly into the same plane.

Thanks. The first one carried out various manoeuvres once on orbit, but I never saw whether the second one followed the same course of action and is the first still manoeuvring today. The last I saw on Russian Space Web was references from late January this year to further manoeuvres.
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TLEs out for three payloads and the Briz-M - nothing yet for a putative 4th payload.
Briz-M in 1170 x 1504 km disposal orbit, rest in 1494 x 1506 km, so looks like mission success for the Gonets and Briz.
I recall that Kosmos-2499 took a while to be discovered and cataloged.
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Per http://www.iss-reshetnev.ru/media/news/news-260115   (the new URL for the news item from Jan mentioned above)
these are «Гонец-М» №№21, 22, 23
- at least I assume the ones sent to the cosmodrome in Jan are the ones launched today.
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TLEs out for three payloads and the Briz-M - nothing yet for a putative 4th payload.
Briz-M in 1170 x 1504 km disposal orbit, rest in 1494 x 1506 km, so looks like mission success for the Gonets and Briz.
I recall that Kosmos-2499 took a while to be discovered and cataloged.

Was the second special payload given a Kosmos designation?
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TLEs out for three payloads and the Briz-M - nothing yet for a putative 4th payload.
Briz-M in 1170 x 1504 km disposal orbit, rest in 1494 x 1506 km, so looks like mission success for the Gonets and Briz.
I recall that Kosmos-2499 took a while to be discovered and cataloged.

Was the second special payload given a Kosmos designation?
yes, number is Kosmos-2504.
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Short launch video...


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There is also a launch video posted on the Russian Ministry of Defence faceboo page at https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1599862353589848&fref=nf

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TLEs out for three payloads and the Briz-M - nothing yet for a putative 4th payload.
Briz-M in 1170 x 1504 km disposal orbit, rest in 1494 x 1506 km, so looks like mission success for the Gonets and Briz.
I recall that Kosmos-2499 took a while to be discovered and cataloged.

Was the second special payload given a Kosmos designation?
yes, number is Kosmos-2504.
Thanks for the Information.

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A fifth object has been catalogued in an orbit close to that of object D (could be Kosmos-2504 in an orbit close to that of Briz-KM)
2015-020E/40556 in 1172 x 1506 km x 82.49°

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The object currently classified as 40555/2015-020D is transmitting at the same radio frequency as COSMOS-2491 and COSMOS-2499. It is highly likely that 40555/2015-020D is COSMOS-2504.

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Kosmos-2504 has begun manuevers in orbit.
On Apr 9 the orbit was raised by about 3 km. Further changes continued on Apr 13-14.
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There appears to have been a rendezvous between Kosmos-2504 and the Briz-KM upper stage around April 16, with the Briz-KM eventually ending up in a higher orbit.

Here's an update on the website of Anatoly Zak, who speculates there may have been some kind of physical contact between the two objects.

http://www.russianspaceweb.com/Cosmos-2504.html

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Kosmos-2504 is article 14Ф153?

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Оказание услуг по подготовке и запуску РКН «Рокот» 14А05-АС11М № 72526 с блоком космических аппаратов 372 АС71М (КА «Гонец-М» № 21,22,23, КА14Ф153)  с космодрома «Плесецк»
http://tsenki.com/upload/iblock/da1/План%20закупок%20ЦЭНКИ%20на%202015%20год%20версия%209.xlsx
http://tsenki.com/partners_customers/purchases/guidelines/
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As noted by Anatoliy and Igor in other forums, Kosmos-2504 made a major orbit change on Jul 3.

On Jul 3 around 0710 orbit changed from 1172 x 1506 km to 1117 x 1455 km
Later on Jul 3 this was tweaked to 1119 x 1452 km  (or,  might be just a more accurate measurement)

The Briz-KM stage is still in a 1172 x 1506 km orbit, no change since the Apr 14 orbit perturbation noted by Anatoliy.

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#Russia's mystery satellite comes back to life, supposedly! Details: http://russianspaceweb.com/Cosmos-2504.html#2017 … #Kosmos2504

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From 30 Mar 2017 till 20 Apr 2017 K2504 has descended in several paces by 500 km in perigee height.
This message reflects my personal opinion based on open sources of information.

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The suspected inspector satellite Kosmos-2504 and its predecessor Kosmos-2499 (both launched piggyback with Gonets-M and Strela-3M satellites on the Rokot booster) have engines built by OKB Fakel called K50-10.6. See this list of satellites carrying engines developed by OKB Fakel :

http://www.fakel-russia.com/images/content/o_kompanii/letnaya_istoriya/KA_s_oborudovaniem.pdf

They are the only two satellites in the list with this particular type of engine. According to the list, the satellites have an "electric engine unit (ERDU) with the K50-10.6". In this OKB Fakel leaflet (in English) the K50-10.6 is described as a thermal catalytic engine burning hydrazine:

http://www.fakel-russia.com/images/content/products/fakel_tkd_en_print.pdf

The only other reference I can find to the the K50-10.6 thrusters is in an article about cooperation between OKB Fakel and NPO Lavochkin in the 3/2015 issue of the NPO Lavochkin magazine "Vestnik". It is mentioned in a photo caption in a section called "electric thermal catalytic hydrazine engines". 

https://www.laspace.ru/upload/iblock/a81/a81ab7a06d732871d12138a11250f4cd.pdf
(see p. 35)

However, the picture actually seems to show the K50-10.1 engine rather than the K50-10.6, so this should not be interpreted as evidence that the K50.10-6 is flown on a Lavochkin-built satellite.






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Last year there were some reports that Cosmos 2504 had performed a relatively close (~1 km) approach to a piece from the Fengyin-1 #3 destruction.   Has anyone identified which piece of debris this was, please?   Of course the orbital inclination difference alone would have made any encounter a brief one.
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Last year there were some reports that Cosmos 2504 had performed a relatively close (~1 km) approach to a piece from the Fengyin-1 #3 destruction.   Has anyone identified which piece of debris this was, please?   Of course the orbital inclination difference alone would have made any encounter a brief one.


The claim was 1999-025DPP
-  and the closest approach I can find was 90 km at 0427 UTC Apr 21
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And I don't believe a iota it could be intentional.
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I think: a chance encounter.
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I always thought that the media reports of the Cosmos 2504 "encounter" with Chinese debris last year sounded like a load of hype over a non-event.   Wherever Cosmos 2504 might have been i am sure someone could have found some random piece of debris that it was "targeting".
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Kosmos 2504 is still alive! It manoeuvred during November, lowering perigee some 40 km.

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