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Re: Soyuz MS-07, December 2017
« Reply #1 on: 07/24/2017 06:10 am »
Its NOT the final version of the crew patch !!

This is
« Last Edit: 07/24/2017 05:05 pm by jacqmans »
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Re: Soyuz MS-07, December 17 2017
« Reply #2 on: 09/27/2017 08:44 pm »
Cross-post from Progress MS-07 launch thread:

Astronauts to make quickest trip ever to ISS in December
http://tass.com/science/967087
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The first launch of a Soyuz spacecraft on a new two-orbit flight scheme in which it will orbit Earth two times en route to the ISS, is scheduled for December 2017, a source from the aerospace sector told TASS on Friday.

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Prior to that, the new scheme will be tested on a Progress cargo craft, the source said. The Roscosmos Space Corporation said "the decision on the launch of a Soyuz manned spacecraft will be made only after the flight of a Progress under a shortened scheme has been analyzed".
Under the new scheme, the spacecraft will make two circumnavigations of the globe, which will take three hours. Currently, spacecraft get to the ISS after four orbits, the flight taking six hours.

From NASA TV Schedule
October 12 - Progress 68 Launch time is scheduled at 5:32 a.m. ET
October 12 - Docking is scheduled at 8:56 a.m. ET
It takes 3 hours 24 min :)
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Also, please note the launch date has moved forward from December 27 to December 17.
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Re: Soyuz MS-07, December 17 2017
« Reply #3 on: 09/27/2017 08:59 pm »
Sorry to be boring but there's no such spacecraft as "Progress 68" as named above.   It is a figment of NASA's imagination.
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Re: Soyuz MS-07, December 17 2017
« Reply #4 on: 09/27/2017 09:28 pm »
And to add: there will not be three-hour rendezvous of Soyuz MS-07 with ISS, it will be two-day rendezvous, and moving launch date up to December 17 relates to NASA wish not to work in Christmas and means that Soyuz MS-07 will fly to ISS two days instead of six hours.

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Re: Soyuz MS-07, December 17 2017
« Reply #5 on: 09/27/2017 09:51 pm »
Thank you for the information, anik.

Two questions...

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Why the reversion from 6-hour rendezvous to 2-day rendezvous?  What, if anything, is the connection between the launch date change and the rendezvous operations change?  (Well, 2 questions, same subject)

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Your information means the TASS source is incorrect.  Do you know when the 3-hour rendezvous would be implemented on a Soyuz flight to ISS?
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Re: Soyuz MS-07, December 17 2017
« Reply #6 on: 09/27/2017 10:11 pm »
Why the reversion from 6-hour rendezvous to 2-day rendezvous?

Changing of phase angle between ISS and Soyuz at launch.

Do you know when the 3-hour rendezvous would be implemented on a Soyuz flight to ISS?

It depends on results of testing new rendezvous scheme by Progress MS-07. The situation is very fluid, even new rendezvous scheme is not yet authorized by Roskosmos for Progress MS-07. So it can be Soyuz MS-08 or it can be Soyuz MS-12.

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Re: Soyuz MS-07, December 17 2017
« Reply #7 on: 09/28/2017 03:50 pm »
It depends on results of testing new rendezvous scheme by Progress MS-07. The situation is very fluid, even new rendezvous scheme is not yet authorized by Roskosmos for Progress MS-07. So it can be Soyuz MS-08 or it can be Soyuz MS-12.
But NASA reports this
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and the 53S launch and docking (12/17/17)
https://blogs.nasa.gov/stationreport/2017/09/

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Re: Soyuz MS-07, December 17 2017
« Reply #8 on: 09/28/2017 04:46 pm »
We can conclude that anik has better information than NASA.
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-07 - December 17, 2017
« Reply #9 on: 10/02/2017 04:05 pm »
Today Soyuz MS-07 was delivered to the assembly and test building.
https://www.roscosmos.ru/24159/
« Last Edit: 10/02/2017 04:05 pm by Alter Sachse »
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-07 - December 17, 2017
« Reply #10 on: 10/02/2017 05:00 pm »
« Last Edit: 10/02/2017 05:02 pm by Alter Sachse »
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-07 - December 17, 2017
« Reply #12 on: 10/11/2017 02:46 pm »
Prime crew portrait:
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-07 - December 17, 2017
« Reply #13 on: 11/03/2017 05:37 am »
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-07 - December 17, 2017
« Reply #14 on: 11/03/2017 05:39 am »
Backup crew

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-07 - December 17, 2017 07:20
« Reply #15 on: 11/06/2017 05:15 pm »
« Last Edit: 11/06/2017 05:16 pm by Alter Sachse »
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-07 - December 17, 2017
« Reply #16 on: 11/09/2017 03:34 pm »
In building 254 preparations are underway for the launch.
https://www.roscosmos.ru/24318/
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-07 - December 17, 2017
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-07 - December 17, 2017
« Reply #18 on: 11/26/2017 12:10 pm »
launch time changed : 07:21
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-07 - December 17, 2017
« Reply #19 on: 11/28/2017 05:35 am »
According to: http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/news/35360/

Soyuz FG rocket no. R15000-061
« Last Edit: 11/28/2017 07:36 pm by SMS »
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